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Title: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: steelheadr on March 15, 2023, 04:39:56 PM
Last October I had quintuple bypass surgery. i gave up archery season and deer gun season to let my breast bone heal.  May is our turkey season. I am concerned about recoil from my 12 ga 3 1/2". I was wondering if any one out there had similar situation and what you did.
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: ol bob on March 15, 2023, 04:44:15 PM
I had the same surgery on Sep. 11 and was hunting Apr. 6 the next year, Moss. 835 3 1/2" shells
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: Tom007 on March 15, 2023, 04:44:40 PM
You can certainly enjoy Turkey hunting switching to a sub-gauge gun with way less recoil. I didn't realize how much kick the heavy load 12's dish out till I set up a 16 gauge, the 2 3/4 inch shells kick way less, and pattern way good enough to tip over a Tom. I wish you luck, hope you get out to enjoy the season.....
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: Turkeybutt on March 15, 2023, 04:53:49 PM
I had Total reverse shoulder replacement and went to a 20 Gauge or a 410
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: bbcoach on March 15, 2023, 04:59:13 PM
I would think since your cardiologist has released you to drive, you should be OK.  They keep you from driving for about 6 weeks to keep you from possibly getting an impact from a wreck and or the Airbag deploying into your sternum.  As others have said, you can go to 2 3/4 inch shells.  But your cardiologist would be the person to answer this question.  Get out there and ENJOY your NEW found Health.  I wish you nothing but the VERY BEST!
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: Tom007 on March 15, 2023, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on March 15, 2023, 04:59:13 PM
I would think since your cardiologist has released you to drive, you should be OK.  They keep you from driving for about 6 weeks to keep you from possibly getting an impact from a wreck and or the Airbag deploying into your sternum.  As others have said, you can go to 2 3/4 inch shells.  But your cardiologist would be the person to answer this question.

This is the best advice yet, he would definitely steer you right....good luck
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: Dtrkyman on March 15, 2023, 05:01:42 PM
Buy some 2 3/4 TSS 1 5/8th OZ from foxtrot or the herters 1.5 oz.  Heart issues or not!
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: 2eagles on March 15, 2023, 05:13:13 PM
Forget the 3 1/2" shells first of all. I shoot a lot of Canada geese and haven't lost a thing by going to 3 inch shells. A big difference in recoil and you'll still kill your turkey.
Having said that, going to a 20 makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: aclawrence on March 15, 2023, 05:16:32 PM
Well I'd dump out of those 3 1/2's real quick either way. You can definitely find a much softer shooting combo.


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Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: Hook hanger on March 15, 2023, 06:13:51 PM
 I would just switch to a shell that recoil less. A 1oz tss load will kill with authority as far as we should be shooting them with some cushion for miss judged yardage.
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: WV Flopper on March 15, 2023, 07:39:55 PM
1st. Glad your doing well and recovering, preparing for season. That's great!
2nd. I hated pulling the trigger on a Mossberg stuffed with Federal copper plated #6. 20 years old, dumb, strong, and still hated it.

If you ha e any clots it should send them on down the line......Sorry, couldn't help it. I am with a lot of the guys, don't buy a new gun unless you want too. Get a low dose of #9 TSS and it will do great with a lot less recoil.
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: paboxcall on March 15, 2023, 07:48:36 PM
Nothing a 3.5" shell can do in the turkey woods that a 2.75" with 1 5/8oz. TSS straight 8s can't.

And way less recoil with that load. Contact Foxtrot Ammo.
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: quackaddict on March 15, 2023, 08:37:32 PM
Get some Herter's 1.5oz 2 3/4" #9s. Recoil is nill. Your typical 1 5/8oz 20ga loads of tss are going to be a bit worse in the recoil dept out of a light 20ga. And if you can't kill a turkey with this kind of pattern, then I don't know what to tell you. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230316/1a2fb9956c06001c8ca3ec195d6201f9.jpg)


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Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: squidd on March 15, 2023, 08:46:39 PM
Triple-B for me last Fall and once the Surgeon heard what I like to do, he put a few extra rings in to hold it all together.

I did talk the Mrs. into a new X-bolt in 6.5 Creedmore with a muzzlebrake for deer season and shot boxes of 3" 20-gauge throughout duck season. 

One turkey so far this year with a 20-gauge due to getting worn out after two days of toting the 12-gauge for nearly nine miles; third day was a charm with just under six miles traveled. 

Only thing I let slide were the gator tags but that was right after surgery.

That said, everyone heals differently and might give you a chance to try a 20-gauge or even .410?  Lightening up what you carry will help.

Hope the recovery and new plumbing goes well!
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: Vintage on March 15, 2023, 08:54:22 PM
Unless you are living in the Nineties you should know that you do not need 3 1/2 to kill a turkey.  come into 2023.
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: Magdump on March 15, 2023, 08:59:40 PM
Quote from: steelheadr on March 15, 2023, 04:39:56 PMMay is our turkey season. I am concerned about recoil from my 12 ga 3 1/2". I was wondering if any one out there had similar situation and what you did.

After having four detached retina surgeries over the years, I had to give up my heavy recoiling guns.

So I went to a .410.  First, with TSS, and then with lead. With TSS i'm good to 40 and lead I'm good to 25+.

I discovered something in the process, that anything larger than a .410 is simply overkill.




Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on March 15, 2023, 09:14:14 PM
First and foremost, I hope the surgery went well and that you're healing and getting back to normal faster than expected. As far as 12ga 3.5", as others have said, there's no need to shoot that anymore. Period. You can shoot light loads in 2.75" out of your current gun with #9s and hammer turkeys with negligible recoil. If you want to move to a sub gauge, great. I think 20s are the new 10s with modern loads. But you can just easily lighten up what you're shooting out of that 12ga and have similar recoil as the 20 and better patterns than the 3.5".


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Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: Wigsplitter on March 15, 2023, 09:31:46 PM
Switch to subguage gun and tss and never look back or see a bruise on your shoulder again!! Good luck!!
Title: Re: Bypass surgery/recoil 12 ga 3 1/2"
Post by: utfan1 on March 15, 2023, 11:19:16 PM
Get a 410 or a suppressor for the 12 . Won't be able to shoot mags thru the silencerco however.