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Turkey Calls => Trumpets / Wingbones Forum => Topic started by: mountainhunter1 on February 06, 2023, 09:36:08 AM

Title: Tough Question
Post by: mountainhunter1 on February 06, 2023, 09:36:08 AM
I am friends with a hunter who loves wingbones and trumpets. He can play them about as good as you will hear most hunters play. But he has a problem and I have no certain answer for it. Early in the morning after getting out of the bed, the first couple of hours after doing so (Pretty typical time frame for a person getting on a bird at daylight), he really struggles to play his calls. But - later in the day - give him a wingbone/trumpet around noon or afternoon, etc. and you will be pressed to try and outplay him on it. It bugs him because early morning is a great time to use a trumpet and such.

Anyone else encountered this issue? My question was if he gets tired around his lips or more so in his throat when running his stuff a lot, and he said he usually only gets fatigued in the back of his throat if he plays them too much during the day. So, I think he is drawing correctly. Could he have weak face muscles, or maybe a diaphragm that needs strengthening with more exercise? Could something like that be exasperated during the early hours? I was curious if anyone else had seen this before and could offer input.
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: GregGwaltney on February 06, 2023, 09:56:31 AM
I always find it the most difficult to play a trumpet first thing in the morning, especially if it is cold out. I remedy this by playing it a lot in the truck before going hunting, works for me.
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: gmbellew on February 06, 2023, 10:11:05 AM
I have a similar issue. I think it is just the face muscles need to get warmed up and also mouth moisture. i normally play left of center on my mouth. I am able to overcome the morning issues usually by playing right of center. no idea why that works for me.
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: EZ on February 06, 2023, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: GregGwaltney on February 06, 2023, 09:56:31 AM
I always find it the most difficult to play a trumpet first thing in the morning, especially if it is cold out. I remedy this by playing it a lot in the truck before going hunting, works for me.

Yep.
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: turkey stew on February 06, 2023, 11:24:16 AM
Drinking plenty of fluids in the morning and playing some before going out helps.
Ho
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: outdoors on February 06, 2023, 12:02:44 PM
Nice HOT  COFFEE , a couple of mug's , good to go after that
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on February 06, 2023, 12:04:46 PM
Mouth is dry early in the morning and it's absolutely tripled/quadrupled if you drink coffee. I drink coffee by the gallon, but when I head to the woods I'm always chewing gum and that seems to do the trick.


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Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: ol bob on February 06, 2023, 01:15:01 PM
Hard candy works for me.
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: TurkinTone on February 06, 2023, 03:24:50 PM
I sleep with a Cpap and I have noticed a difference in control early in the am. Maybe due to a little puffiness from the mask...?
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: Chris O on February 06, 2023, 08:35:51 PM
Before it's actually hunting season I am usually up early listening for turkeys and I practice my calling then. It helps me get ready for season. I have to power through first thing in the morning by actually putting more lip pressure on the mouthpiece to get a good seal early in the morning .
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: wchadw on February 06, 2023, 08:41:06 PM
Water and bring a couple cough drops.


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Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: Greg Massey on February 06, 2023, 08:51:12 PM
I just drink coffee and go hunting, i know i have something that will play in a satchel of tricks... But i do think my coffee helps in the morning for running air calls ..I do use this candy like lifesaver dry mouth lozenges for dry mouth like 36 count under 5 dollars... if needed ...they are other brands ...
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: Greg Massey on February 06, 2023, 08:56:11 PM
Quote from: TurkinTone on February 06, 2023, 03:24:50 PM
I sleep with a Cpap and I have noticed a difference in control early in the am. Maybe due to a little puffiness from the mask...?
I agree with you 100 % about the cpap and what it does to your face , i use one also...
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: mountainhunter1 on February 06, 2023, 09:05:26 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone. It sounds from the responses that he is not alone with the hindered ability to play well first thing in the morning. I just had not seen that happen with anyone to such an extreme is why I asked. I appreciate the feedback and will pass on the suggestions.
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: paboxcall on February 06, 2023, 09:15:54 PM
Quote from: wchadw on February 06, 2023, 08:41:06 PM
Water and bring a couple cough drops.

x2, and stay hydrated including before bed.
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: crow on February 06, 2023, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: turkey stew on February 06, 2023, 11:24:16 AM
Drinking plenty of fluids in the morning and playing some before going out helps.
Ho


This would be my advise to him also, start drinking heavily.
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: TurkinTone on February 06, 2023, 10:21:32 PM
 :TooFunny:
Quote from: crow on February 06, 2023, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: turkey stew on February 06, 2023, 11:24:16 AM
Drinking plenty of fluids in the morning and playing some before going out helps.
Ho


This would be my advise to him also, start drinking heavily.
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: tal on February 06, 2023, 10:33:29 PM
 When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor ...
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: pinebark on February 07, 2023, 08:08:22 PM
I carry some Carmex on me to keep lips moist. Also, an old timer told me chewing tobacco is a trick to keep plenty of good playing saliva. Needless to say, I only chew tobacco during the spring

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Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: davisd9 on February 07, 2023, 08:17:51 PM
My dentist complimented me with active saliva glands so never really had any issues until it is pretty cold and then my lips are stiff, that is easy to take care of with moving them around as I walk to listen and all.
Title: Re: Tough Question
Post by: crow on February 07, 2023, 08:25:15 PM
Quote from: tal on February 06, 2023, 10:33:29 PM
When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor ...




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