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Title: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: Meleagris gallopavo on June 11, 2022, 07:07:37 AM
Do the bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces add to the performance of a trumpet or are they mainly for novelty or aesthetics?


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Title: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on June 11, 2022, 07:40:38 AM
They do have a slightly different sound. Can really tell on a trumpet with interchangeable mouthpieces when you run bone or ivory in one then immediately move to another material in the same call. They play a bit softer than synthetics or metal, a little more dampened down if that makes sense. Some bone and antler can also have a tendency to dry on your lip. That said, yes, it's mainly aesthetics and value. Personally I really like buffalo horn and honey buffalo from a looks standpoint. I like them better than ivory. Got a moose antler recently that sounds really good. But outside looks, I like other materials better for sound, my favorites being delrin and brass.


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Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: ol bob on June 11, 2022, 08:11:58 AM
Lipstick on a pig.
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: davisd9 on June 11, 2022, 08:34:45 AM
Depends on who you ask
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Post by: tap.emtp on June 11, 2022, 08:36:02 AM
What about wood for a MP? Ol bob, do you think it makes a difference?
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: Meleagris gallopavo on June 11, 2022, 09:29:01 AM
I felt that they were mainly for novelty and aesthetics.  I usually go with whatever's cheapest and goes well with the rest of the trumpet.


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Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: ol bob on June 11, 2022, 10:52:37 AM
Put it this way, the best trumpet player I've ever met, has a trumpet I made from all delrin, of all the trumpets he has he says it the best one he owns. and he has them with ivory, horn, wood and,maybe a few other things.
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: nitro on June 11, 2022, 11:04:44 AM
I have several all Delrin calls from Billy Buice.  They are money for sure from the sound standpoint. To my ears and the ears of quite a few folks and Gobblers who have heard them.
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: Zobo on June 11, 2022, 11:34:45 AM
    Natural materials have an antiquated appeal that some folks love. I'm one of them, especially for turkey hunting calls where they seem particularly fitting.
     Now if I'm out on the middle of the Atlantic ocean chasing pelagic gamefish, I'm not using a stag fillet knife, cedar lures and a cork handled glass rod because I find them nostalgic.
     They all work though.
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: EZ on June 11, 2022, 03:27:25 PM
As long as they play well, I don't care what they're made of.
As ol bob says, an all delrin call just has a pop and resonance that I really like.
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: tap.emtp on June 11, 2022, 05:35:09 PM
Good answer Zobo, I to love antiquated calls. It's the reason I got into call making. I just don't like anything plastic, especially if I can get an acceptable sound from wood , bone or horn. It's like putting those plastic tubes on a buck grunt, yeah it's more versatile and may even sound better but looks terrible. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: Chuck1443 on June 11, 2022, 06:20:45 PM
I think of A Permar 45 , one of the best
Not an answer to your question sorry


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Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: 2nd 100 on June 11, 2022, 08:07:49 PM
I do like the exotic mp angle . I try is special to me growing up dreaming of hunting elephants . That's as close as I'm gona get to one I recon .
Acrylic  runs like a dream for me
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But when it comes to me I have 2 Battey alpha hunters , I believe they are all delrin and they are as deadly as I own although most people hate on them because they are CNC turned ... the MP is by far my favorite of all time ..
And delrin is ALOT CHEAPER to experiment  with than ivory !
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: mmclain on June 11, 2022, 10:02:42 PM
Quote from: Meleagris gallopavo on June 11, 2022, 07:07:37 AM
Do the bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces add to the performance of a trumpet or are they mainly for novelty or aesthetics?


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No. It really doesn't matter much  as long as it's solid material and is done correctly. Bone  compared  acrylic will be the same if thoroughly done .  Wood stems need to have some extra steps taken to ensure moisture doesn't swell the grain over time. 
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: paboxcall on June 12, 2022, 08:19:56 AM
I'm a big fan of the industrial amber. Its got the sound and the looks.
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: Meleagris gallopavo on June 12, 2022, 10:42:55 AM
Quote from: paboxcall on June 12, 2022, 08:19:56 AM
I'm a big fan of the industrial amber. Its got the sound and the looks.
What is industrial amber?


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Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: Ctate94 on June 12, 2022, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: paboxcall on June 12, 2022, 08:19:56 AM
I'm a big fan of the industrial amber. Its got the sound and the looks.
Any pictures for reference? Sounds interesting


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Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: mmclain on June 12, 2022, 03:46:53 PM
I have some of the industrial material.  It's not much different than acrylic when turning/machining.   When it's done it's no different than acrylic.  If the material  is solid and non porous it makes no difference. 
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: EZ on June 12, 2022, 04:57:21 PM
Quote from: mmclain on June 12, 2022, 03:46:53 PM
I have some of the industrial material.  It's not much different than acrylic when turning/machining.   When it's done it's no different than acrylic.  If the material  is solid and non porous it makes no difference.

Was just running your trumpet with a micarta MP and she runs sweet, easy and smooth.
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: paboxcall on June 12, 2022, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: Ctate94 on June 12, 2022, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: paboxcall on June 12, 2022, 08:19:56 AM
I'm a big fan of the industrial amber. Its got the sound and the looks.
Any pictures for reference? Sounds interesting

My Permar .45.....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611588727_8b40efbda8_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: paboxcall on June 12, 2022, 09:00:31 PM
Quote from: Ctate94 on June 12, 2022, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: paboxcall on June 12, 2022, 08:19:56 AM
I'm a big fan of the industrial amber. Its got the sound and the looks.
Any pictures for reference? Sounds interesting

Bott adjustable belongs to fellow OG member "tal".....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50680950572_71794d1920_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: tal on June 12, 2022, 09:03:49 PM
 I like that call better every time I pick it up
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: ol bob on June 13, 2022, 10:20:29 AM
The best mouth piece you can get, is Amodel, hard as ivory, but a lot tougher. Also hard to get.
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: Ctate94 on June 13, 2022, 10:21:52 AM
Quote from: paboxcall on June 12, 2022, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: Ctate94 on June 12, 2022, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: paboxcall on June 12, 2022, 08:19:56 AM
I'm a big fan of the industrial amber. Its got the sound and the looks.
Any pictures for reference? Sounds interesting

My Permar .45.....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611588727_8b40efbda8_c.jpg)

That's awesome. Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: wchadw on June 13, 2022, 10:32:42 AM
Quote from: ol bob on June 13, 2022, 10:20:29 AM
The best mouth piece you can get, is Amodel, hard as ivory, but a lot tougher. Also hard to get.
I love the amodel used on my delrin buice call. Definitely has a great sound to
It


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Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: Conch on June 13, 2022, 03:06:44 PM
Quote from: ol bob on June 13, 2022, 10:20:29 AM
The best mouth piece you can get, is Amodel, hard as ivory, but a lot tougher. Also hard to get.
Is this just your opinion or can it be proven as fact
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: ol bob on June 13, 2022, 06:34:58 PM
Quote from: Conch on June 13, 2022, 03:06:44 PM
Quote from: ol bob on June 13, 2022, 10:20:29 AM
The best mouth piece you can get, is Amodel, hard as ivory, but a lot tougher. Also hard to get.
Is this just your opinion or can it be proven as fact
Having spent 25 years making trumpets, and using every metal, horn, bone, ivory,plastic,wood,porky pine Quills and anything else I could get my hands on that I though might work and never finding anything better, Yep that's my opinion.
Title: Re: Bone, horn and ivory mouthpieces
Post by: Conch on June 13, 2022, 06:52:19 PM
10 4 I've been fortunate to hear a few of the best and they never have mentioned amodel as a game changer.