Curious at to what some of yalls take would be on this topic. I'll begin by making clear that I have never reaped a bird. I have tried several times to see what the hype was about with no results. With that being said I've seen the videos and talked to some people that obviously are very successful with the approach, but I am not anti reaping, I think as long as it is legal there's no right or wrong way to do it (besides limb-shooting in the few places it is legal). My thought process being that if you're anti reaping because of the unfair advantage shouldn't you be anti drop back caller as well? If you shoot a bird having a drop back caller you did not kill that bird, you simply pulled the trigger. But did the other caller even kill the bird? Often times using a drop back caller the dropped back person never even sees the bird, much less gets it in range. So was the tom really tricked when he was going to come in and likely hangup at 70 like he's done for so many years? Or was he robbed of a fair fight? In my opinion it's almost impossible to argue it's not. (Let's be clear I'll use drop back callers I'm not against it in any form I just find how ones generally accepted while one is a cardinal sin conflicting)
Some thoughts I had as I'm on a 18 hour ride to the NE to finish up season
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Limb shooting is actually legal in a lot of places. One could argue its more difficult and requires more skill than reaping. Not to mention safer, and possibly less of an impact on the population (fewer birds harvested by it, "dominant gobbler" theory w/ reaping, etc.).
There has been a lot of good discussion on all these ethics questions. Ethics come down to personal conviction and principle, and it's not the same for everyone. I am tired of all the banter and just want to hunt and leave the crap of social judgement behind. Unfortunately, what is wrong on the city street gets drug into the woods and onto the water. It's not a legal issue or a management issue it comes down to one simple thing, character and respect. Respect your fellow members of the human race and apply strong character to everything you do and you will be respected in turn. The golden rule stands strong on the street in the wild places, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Morals are God given principles that protect and prosper all of us. It is not that difficult to apply some simple wisdom to every situation, but the greatest foe of wisdom is GREED!. I want it so bad I will take it from someone else.
There is no single answer to the gate question. It requires some judgement. If you pull up and the gate is the entry point for a large area with branches then it is reasonable to assume that two or three parties can park and hunt it. You just need to listen and asses every gobbler you hear and do your best to not set up on someone working a bird. Going deeper does not mean your alone. If the gate is access to a small parcel and likely 1-2 birds then you should realize that two is a crowd and move on. Competition for space will only get worse. So we are going to have to think harder about what we do. We just ran into this situation last week in the Black Hills. I had a gate targeted and when we pulled up there was a truck parked there. Now this parcel went for a 5 mile radius and plenty of space, but we knew other gates were open just down the road, so we turned around and moved on. Not a hard decision at all. However, the greedy little voice in me said, you spotted that bird back there, he's yours go get him. The exercise of principle often takes deliberate will power to fight off temptation. It's not a cut and dried right or wrong issue, it's a thoughtful and kindness issue....just be better
Quote from: eggshell on May 25, 2022, 08:12:45 AM
There has been a lot of good discussion on all these ethics questions. Ethics come down to personal conviction and principle, and it's not the same for everyone. I am tired of all the banter and just want to hunt and leave the crap of social judgement behind. Unfortunately, what is wrong on the city street gets drug into the woods and onto the water. It's not a legal issue or a management issue it comes down to one simple thing, character and respect. Respect your fellow members of the human race and apply strong character to everything you do and you will be respected in turn. The golden rule stands strong on the street in the wild places, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Morals are God given principles that protect and prosper all of us. It is not that difficult to apply some simple wisdom to every situation, but the greatest foe of wisdom is GREED!. I want it so bad I will take it from someone else.
There is no single answer to the gate question. It requires some judgement. If you pull up and the gate is the entry point for a large area with branches then it is reasonable to assume that two or three parties can park and hunt it. You just need to listen and asses every gobbler you hear and do your best to not set up on someone working a bird. Going deeper does not mean your alone. If the gate is access to a small parcel and likely 1-2 birds then you should realize that two is a crowd and move on. Competition for space will only get worse. So we are going to have to think harder about what we do. We just ran into this situation last week in the Black Hills. I had a gate targeted and when we pulled up there was a truck parked there. Now this parcel went for a 5 mile radius and plenty of space, but we knew other gates were open just down the road, so we turned around and moved on. Not a hard decision at all. However, the greedy little voice in me said, you spotted that bird back there, he's yours go get him. The exercise of principle often takes deliberate will power to fight off temptation. It's not a cut and dried right or wrong issue, it's a thoughtful and kindness issue....just be better
Extremely well written, you could not sum this up any better. Well done.
Reaping and drop-back calling not the same thing Northy ;)
At least with drop-back calling, you're taking one for the team and helping your buddy get one
Quote from: eggshell on May 25, 2022, 08:12:45 AM
There has been a lot of good discussion on all these ethics questions. Ethics come down to personal conviction and principle, and it's not the same for everyone. I am tired of all the banter and just want to hunt and leave the crap of social judgement behind. Unfortunately, what is wrong on the city street gets drug into the woods and onto the water. It's not a legal issue or a management issue it comes down to one simple thing, character and respect. Respect your fellow members of the human race and apply strong character to everything you do and you will be respected in turn. The golden rule stands strong on the street in the wild places, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Morals are God given principles that protect and prosper all of us. It is not that difficult to apply some simple wisdom to every situation, but the greatest foe of wisdom is GREED!. I want it so bad I will take it from someone else.
There is no single answer to the gate question. It requires some judgement. If you pull up and the gate is the entry point for a large area with branches then it is reasonable to assume that two or three parties can park and hunt it. You just need to listen and asses every gobbler you hear and do your best to not set up on someone working a bird. Going deeper does not mean your alone. If the gate is access to a small parcel and likely 1-2 birds then you should realize that two is a crowd and move on. Competition for space will only get worse. So we are going to have to think harder about what we do. We just ran into this situation last week in the Black Hills. I had a gate targeted and when we pulled up there was a truck parked there. Now this parcel went for a 5 mile radius and plenty of space, but we knew other gates were open just down the road, so we turned around and moved on. Not a hard decision at all. However, the greedy little voice in me said, you spotted that bird back there, he's yours go get him. The exercise of principle often takes deliberate will power to fight off temptation. It's not a cut and dried right or wrong issue, it's a thoughtful and kindness issue....just be better
Well said.
I would say those two things are Apples and Oranges. Not even close to the same thing.
Quote from: eggshell on May 25, 2022, 08:12:45 AM
Ethics come down to personal conviction and principle, and it's not the same for everyone. I am tired of all the banter and just want to hunt and leave the crap of social judgement behind.
Amen!!!!

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Thats like saying a hen lead the gobbler your direction not your calling so you shouldn't shoot it. Definitely apple's to orange's type of thinking.
Lot of difference in calls and calling gobblers and waving fans in front of your face. The two are totally different in my opinion. As eggshell said: Ethics comes down to the personal conviction and the person behind the gun. Your the one who has to live with your judgement calls in life.
Reaping should be banned for multiple reasons in my opinion. It is not hunting and it is not safe.
This is for sure a " mileage may very " question.
At the end of the day , we where all raised differently.
I was raised to Yelp him up , or use woodsmenship to get close .
It's a sin to limb shot/ use decoys / shot out the truck window / go in on somebody that was there before you etc . But I'm not going to push " my " rules on you . As long as you don't push yours on me ...
If Reaping or shooting a bird off the limb is legal in your state or the state you are hunting in and that's your cup of tea, then do it. Who am I to judge!
As to the question about Drop Back Calling. I find nothing wrong with that at all. It's you or your buddy trying to help another get a bird. It's a team effort and if someone gets a bird it's something to be proud of because you were a part of it.
As Eggshell put it, "It come's down to personal conviction and principle in all we do, and it's not the same for everyone".
We come from all walks of life, each with their own set of morals, convictions and principles. At best all one can do is respect and accept people for their differences and hopefully you will earn some respect as well.
When all else fails and it does from time to time I'll remind people.
Please don't confuse my personality with my attitude. My personality is who I am. My attitude depends on who you are!
Hunt however it's legal in your state, anyway that makes you happy, and don't feel like you have to tell anyone else how you hunt. You and everyone else will be happy.
Quote from: Howie g on May 25, 2022, 10:47:49 AM
This is for sure a " mileage may very " question.
At the end of the day , we where all raised differently.
I was raised to Yelp him up , or use woodsmenship to get close .
It's a sin to limb shot/ use decoys / shot out the truck window / go in on somebody that was there before you etc . But I'm not going to push " my " rules on you . As long as you don't push yours on me ...
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The game isn't being played on a level playing field anymore. The results of this over the years have been devastating and will continue to worsen barring major changes.
Any time the "hunter" or should I say killer Ha Ha uses a visual aid he creates an unlevel playing field and gives himself/herself an unfair advantage.
Now back when turkey hunting first came back we had more turkey hunters, these days we have a bunch of turkey killers but few turkey hunters.
Quote from: Ihuntoldschool link=topic=109605.msg1086288#msg1086288 date=1653500948 These days we have a bunch of turkey killers but few turkey hunters.
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And they don't have a clue about the joy and the accomplishment they are missing.
Being the drop back caller has put many toms in my range.
Legal, ethical and safe are different animals. There are legal methods I do not agree with therefore will not do. But that isnt my free pass to judge others. Ethical is somewhat subjective to how and where you were raised. Safety is not subjective, the law gives pretty clear explanations. If you are not sure, find out before you do it. Everyone that is hunting over 16 has passed Hunter Safety or is a minor with someone who did, so there is no excuse. It is never ok to put another human in harms way in the field. Courtesy is slowly giving way to " entitlement" and that is everywhere. I try to do my personal part to keep our woods safe and that everyone has an opportunity to enjoy it. As far as reaping goes, legal or not, its not for me. As for drop back calling, it is my last try to get someone else an opportunity. I have never been the " front man", as I like to be in the game as much as possible. But thats only my :z-twocents:. Please enjoy and be safe. God Bless, Al Baker
Legality varies as do ethics which can be based on where you might have been raised hunting. Do we put a limit on what yardage a turkey can be shot and call it fair to the turkey? Some hunters do, some don't. The idea is to kill and tag a turkey by legal means, some enjoy the interaction of a gobbling tom and some want to put meat in the freezer.
Quote from: Howie g on May 25, 2022, 10:47:49 AM
This is for sure a " mileage may very " question.
At the end of the day , we where all raised differently.
I was raised to Yelp him up , or use woodsmenship to get close .
It's a sin to limb shot/ use decoys / shot out the truck window / go in on somebody that was there before you etc . But I'm not going to push " my " rules on you . As long as you don't push yours on me ...
You and I see it pretty much the same.
Quote from: ol bob on May 25, 2022, 11:59:30 AM
Hunt however it's legal in your state, anyway that makes you happy, and don't feel like you have to tell anyone else how you hunt. You and everyone else will be happy.
I keep hearing this. And, really.........what else can be said at this point ??
To me, it boils down to one's personal conviction and reason for being out in the spring woods with a gun and a tag. Are you a turkey HUNTER ?? Are you a turkey KILLER ?? Are you a STUDENT of the entire sport ??
It used to be the bar.......the gas station.......the place where some guys just HAD to be the first guy to get there with a buck or a gobbler. The proving ground. Now , add to that social media and YouTube. I think the drive.....the need for validation......causes a whole lotta hunters to cheapen the means to their end for the perceived glory at the bar or the gas station. Too many guys feel they have something to prove to the rest of the hunting community and in doing so, will resort to whatever "legal method" they have to. Just so they're first to the gas station. The first on Facebook.
To the OP's question, directly........... drop-back calling.......calling through......whatever you name it......is CALLING. Something you have to PRACTICE. Something that experience strengthens the skill, thereof. Reaping (IMO) is the participation trophy of the sport. Absolutely no skill. Just a good set of knees. But, if it's legal............and the cheapening of one's individual successes isn't a problem.......then knock yourself out, skippy.
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 26, 2022, 03:57:56 PM
Quote from: ol bob on May 25, 2022, 11:59:30 AM
Hunt however it's legal in your state, anyway that makes you happy, and don't feel like you have to tell anyone else how you hunt. You and everyone else will be happy.
I keep hearing this. And, really.........what else can be said at this point ??
To me, it boils down to one's personal conviction and reason for being out in the spring woods with a gun and a tag. Are you a turkey HUNTER ?? Are you a turkey KILLER ?? Are you a STUDENT of the entire sport ??
It used to be the bar.......the gas station.......the place where some guys just HAD to be the first guy to get there with a buck or a gobbler. The proving ground. Now , add to that social media and YouTube. I think the drive.....the need for validation......causes a whole lotta hunters to cheapen the means to their end for the perceived glory. Too many guys feel they have something to prove to the rest of the hunting community and in doing so, will resort to whatever "legal method" they have to. Just so they're first to the gas station. The first on Facebook.
To the OP's question, directly........... drop-back calling.......calling through......whatever you name it......is CALLING. Something you have to PRACTICE. Something that experience strengthens the skill, thereof. Reaping (IMO) is the participation trophy of the sport. Absolutely no skill. Just a good set of knees. But, if it's legal............and the cheapening of one's individual successes isn't a problem.......then knock yourself out, skippy.
Absolutely, this is a forum of opinions and I suspect I'm gonna give you one. If the turkey isn't called to the gun, we call that turkey shooting not hunting. It's nothing to be proud of. I personally think stalking/reaping should be illegal for ethical and SAFETY reasons. But of course do as you see fit.
the 2 dont corollate to ea other. Totally diff concepts. Drop back calling is still calling birds. Reaping is still reaping w/o calling. I just dont get how they are even related? Mike
Quote from: mspaci on May 26, 2022, 05:41:42 PM
the 2 dont corollate to ea other. Totally diff concepts. Drop back calling is still calling birds. Reaping is still reaping w/o calling. I just dont get how they are even related? Mike
Agreed.
Just my opinion but I think reaping is dangerous.
Where as "drop-back" calling isn't any more dangerous then calling alone.
But to each his own.
Apples and hand grenades.
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Both are horesh#t tactics in my opinion. For me, it is me against him, a game of hide and seek. Me sitting against a tree and making him come look for me. If I cannot call him down my barrel to within 35 steps, he wins, period.
To those saying "drop back calling" isn't fair chase, what about when you do it solo? When you've got a bird that won't commit to anything but an unkillable distance and he's done that more than once, and so you drop back to call then cut the distance between you and the bird? Is that unfair?
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This is getting funny. Now some are saying drop back calling is unethical or unsporting. LOL. That is funny. Oh well, enjoy hunting the way you want. I will drop back call if I am hunting with a buddy with zero hesitation.
I am not sure I can keep up with all the "rules". Maybe someone can post them for us. This is silly.
Quote from: g8rvet on May 26, 2022, 10:12:42 PM
This is getting funny. Now some are saying drop back calling is unethical or unsporting. LOL. That is funny. Oh well, enjoy hunting the way you want. I will drop back call if I am hunting with a buddy with zero hesitation.
I am not sure I can keep up with all the "rules". Maybe someone can post them for us. This is silly.
Me too. Without question. Every time. And I'll be hunkered down praying I hear a gun shot rip apart the woods.
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Quote from: CowHunter71 on May 26, 2022, 07:36:50 PM
Both are horesh#t tactics in my opinion. For me, it is me against him, a game of hide and seek. Me sitting against a tree and making him come look for me. If I cannot call him down my barrel to within 35 steps, he wins, period.
Ever put your hand to the side of your mouth and turned your head to throw the sound of your calling behind you in getting that bird to 35 yards ??
Just askin'............
I'm not sure if this is what they call trolling. In my world trolling involves hooks, lines, beer and the smell of diesel. The op is a false dichotomy being used to justify reaping.
Reaping is Dangerous.. Never know who will Trespass onto your Turkey- Rich Private Land. Maybe his Wife Drops him off at 4am and now he is in that Prime Field with the " Reaper"...
Rolling a Gobbler off the Roost is definitely Legal and Safer then putting your Mug behind a Gobbler Fan. Not all States- but plenty. Just read and reread your State's Regs.
Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 26, 2022, 08:17:23 PM
To those saying "drop back calling" isn't fair chase, what about when you do it solo? When you've got a bird that won't commit to anything but an unkillable distance and he's done that more than once, and so you drop back to call then cut the distance between you and the bird? Is that unfair?
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Totally agree here. Whether you "drop back", or call then use the terrain to quickly move toward the gobbler has led to many Tom's coming into range to look over the hill, BOOM.... the rest is history.......This is more a "Woodsmanship/Set-up tactic. I use it all the time, I hunt solo.....
These threads remind me of being constipated. I spend a lot of time in the room and do a lot grunting, groaning and trying to make something happen, but all that happens is I end up irritated and nothing happens.
Is there such a thing as a forum laxative that makes all this crap dump and then we go on with our normal daily routine?
I really am getting tired of it all. I think maybe whoever asked if this was an attempt to justify reaping by vilifying another strategy may have hit on something. In the end there are no ethics police in the woods. I am fairly confident when most hunters are in the turkey woods they employ a vast range of techniques to bag a gobbler. I would even bet a lot of us have bent our own rules when no one is watching. It's easy to be purist and righteous on a forum, but when in a battle with a stubborn old long beard I will wager a lot of us put our pride aside and do what we think will kill him. Then crow about how we always do it right. I confess I have bent my personal rules plenty, but I never ever bend safety rules. That is why I set reaping aside as a "I will never do it" method, it's unsafe.
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 26, 2022, 11:22:39 PM
Quote from: CowHunter71 on May 26, 2022, 07:36:50 PM
Both are horesh#t tactics in my opinion. For me, it is me against him, a game of hide and seek. Me sitting against a tree and making him come look for me. If I cannot call him down my barrel to within 35 steps, he wins, period.
Ever put your hand to the side of your mouth and turned your head to throw the sound of your calling behind you in getting that bird to 35 yards ??
Just askin'............
Quite often, as well as dropping back and calling, then repositioning to give the illusion of live Hen drifting around. Difference is, I hunt alone, one on one, me against him. This is how I choose to play the game. Using a second person to drag him by, is horsesh#t to me. May be selfish, but I am not out there to call you up a Gobbler, just like I would not want you to call me up a Gobbler.. I have more respect for these Turkeys than I do most people. My Old School Code, and that of my Kin, demands the game be "won" honorably, period. Most will feel this is ridiculous, but I really do not care. I am sure 'nuff part of a dying breed, and cut from a different cloth than most. Proud of that ;)
I'm stuck home with dang covid ... I feel like I've been run over by a truck .
Reading these reply's is at least giving a chuckle, which leads to me coughing up something that looks like battery acid ... keep em coming
Quote from: Howie g on May 27, 2022, 08:25:55 AM
I'm stuck home with dang covid ... I feel like I've been run over by a truck .
Reading these reply's is at least giving a chuckle, which leads to me coughing up something that looks like battery acid ... keep em coming
Get better soon my friend...
Quote from: CowHunter71 on May 27, 2022, 08:15:21 AMI am sure 'nuff part of a dying breed, and cut from a different cloth than most.
I would have to agree.
Reaping vs "drop back" callers...
Regardless of personal opinions about hunting methods, the actual thing that matters is how one's methods of hunting impacts the resource,...and just as importantly, if each of us individually has the wisdom to understand that impact and adjust our attitudes about knowing when to stop pulling the trigger.
Personally, I am a firm believer that gobblers can reach a point where they are pretty resistant to being called to the hunter's gun,...whether it be by "one on one" calling or by "drop back calling" with multiple hunters involved. As such, a significantly larger percentage of the gobbler population will survive each spring when calling is the primary tactic used as compared to the survival rate when male decoys/fanning/reaping tactics are used. THAT is the difference between "calling-only" tactics and "male-turkey-imitation" (i.e...."reaping") use.
There has no doubt been a significant increase in gobbler harvest each spring since the inception of the use of male turkey imitations. In addition (as has been pointed out), that harvest now includes that segment of the gobbler population that, up until that "discovery", were quite resistant to being killed by calling methods alone.
Simply stated, using all the modern tactics available for killing gobblers has resulted in a significant decrease in the number of mature gobblers on the landscape (in those areas where harvest is not being controlled otherwise). There are more of us hunting,...and there are more turkeys being killed each spring using tactics that were not prevalent, or even were known, not all that long ago.
At some point, we hunters have to admit that fact to ourselves and adjust our attitudes about how we hunt,...and how many gobblers we kill,...and how we go about doing it. Then again, it really doesn't matter if we do that ourselves or not. Eventually, wildlife managers are going to do it for us (some already are). Under the circumstances that currently exist with our wild turkey populations, they will have no choice if they are truly "managing" the resource.
I won't kill one unless I can grab ahold of his snood and finish him in a rear naked choke, but that's just how I was raised. We don't call. We don't use guns. We don't wear camouflage. It's loin cloths and fisticuffs or nothing. #LastOfADyingBreed
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Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 27, 2022, 10:21:17 AM
I won't kill one unless I can grab ahold of his snood and finish him in a rear naked choke, but that's just how I was raised. We don't call. We don't use guns. We don't wear camouflage. It's loin cloths and fisticuffs or nothing. #LastOfADyingBreed
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Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 27, 2022, 10:21:17 AM
I won't kill one unless I can grab ahold of his snood and finish him in a rear naked choke, but that's just how I was raised. We don't call. We don't use guns. We don't wear camouflage. It's loin cloths and fisticuffs or nothing. #LastOfADyingBreed
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Wouldn't hunting in a loin cloth be considered baiting?
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Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 27, 2022, 10:21:17 AMIt's loin cloths and fisticuffs or nothing. #LastOfADyingBreed
(Rare footage of Chester on the hunt)
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Quote from: Howie g on May 27, 2022, 08:25:55 AM
I'm stuck home with dang covid ... I feel like I've been run over by a truck .
Reading these reply's is at least giving a chuckle, which leads to me coughing up something that looks like battery acid ... keep em coming
Hope you are well soon. That Chinese virus cost me a turkey season.
Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 27, 2022, 10:21:17 AM
I won't kill one unless I can grab ahold of his snood and finish him in a rear naked choke, but that's just how I was raised. We don't call. We don't use guns. We don't wear camouflage. It's loin cloths and fisticuffs or nothing. #LastOfADyingBreed
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Loin cloth? Then it's not a true rear naked choke.
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 27, 2022, 11:11:13 AM
Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 27, 2022, 10:21:17 AMIt's loin cloths and fisticuffs or nothing. #LastOfADyingBreed
(Rare footage of Chester on the hunt)
NOW we know the man behind the screen name. :o Fame walks among us on the OG Forums !!!! :you_rock:
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Can't Un see that !!! Lol
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I used to just ugly them to death but it buggered up too much meat. Wasn't fit to eat.
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Quote from: CowHunter71 on May 27, 2022, 08:15:21 AM
Difference is, I hunt alone, one on one, me against him. This is how I choose to play the game.
Wait...... what if there are 2 gobblers? Or three? or Four? I have killed one out of four and one out of three and I have killed one out of a pair several times. So does that mean I am ultra cool because I beat them 1 against 4 (3 or 2). Or is that not pure enough because it was not mano y mano?
I have had two birds where I was the forward guy. One was my first and one was the bird I killed this year. The bird I killed this year circled us and I ended up in front. I have called in a dozen birds for others-kids, noobs, friends and relatives. Usually side by side, but a few have been with me dropping back. I will likely cry myself to sleep tonight thinking I did not "honor" the bird enough.
I have chosen to personally limit my shot range to 7-12 yards,I let them go if they are 13 to 35 yards now,I want everyone to play the game by my rules,if you cant call em that close,well....that aint turkey hunting,thats shooting and I do it naked but i do roll around in the mud first to make it fair. Sincerly Franks n Beans.....get some,if you want some.....
Quote from: g8rvet on May 27, 2022, 12:53:52 PM
Quote from: CowHunter71 on May 27, 2022, 08:15:21 AM
Difference is, I hunt alone, one on one, me against him. This is how I choose to play the game.
Wait...... what if there are 2 gobblers? Or three? or Four? I have killed one out of four and one out of three and I have killed one out of a pair several times. So does that mean I am ultra cool because I beat them 1 against 4 (3 or 2). Or is that not pure enough because it was not mano y mano?
I have had two birds where I was the forward guy. One was my first and one was the bird I killed this year. The bird I killed this year circled us and I ended up in front. I have called in a dozen birds for others-kids, noobs, friends and relatives. Usually side by side, but a few have been with me dropping back. I will likely cry myself to sleep tonight thinking I did not "honor" the bird enough.
Like I said in my post, I don't give a piss what you or coppernutz think. Not forcing my style on anyone, simply stating how I choose to play the game.
Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on May 27, 2022, 01:38:19 PM....... and I do it naked but i do roll around in the mud first to make it fair.
(Rare footage of Kid, heading out to bag that gobbler)
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Quote from: Yoder409 on May 27, 2022, 03:15:58 PM
Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on May 27, 2022, 01:38:19 PM....... and I do it naked but i do roll around in the mud first to make it fair.
(Rare footage of Kid, heading out to bag that gobbler)
NOW we know the man behind the screen name. :o Yet, more fame walks among us on the OG Forums !! :you_rock:
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Sooo , if you go after gobblers like this ? I must ask where you carry your yelper ??? :z-guntootsmiley: :z-guntootsmiley:
Quote from: Howie g on May 27, 2022, 03:47:33 PM
Sooo , if you go after gobblers like this ? I must ask where you carry your yelper ??? :z-guntootsmiley: :z-guntootsmiley:
Little trick I learned in prison. Keeps my hands free for the melee.
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Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 27, 2022, 04:08:16 PM
Quote from: Howie g on May 27, 2022, 03:47:33 PM
Sooo , if you go after gobblers like this ? I must ask where you carry your yelper ??? :z-guntootsmiley: :z-guntootsmiley:
Little trick I learned in prison. Keeps my hands free for the melee.
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Well , that's one way to assure nobody else will ask to use your yelper !!!
Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 27, 2022, 04:08:16 PM
Quote from: Howie g on May 27, 2022, 03:47:33 PM
Sooo , if you go after gobblers like this ? I must ask where you carry your yelper ??? :z-guntootsmiley: :z-guntootsmiley:
Little trick I learned in prison. Keeps my hands free for the melee.
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
YOU............sir............ain't right.
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Quote from: CowHunter71 on May 27, 2022, 02:04:18 PM
Quote from: g8rvet on May 27, 2022, 12:53:52 PM
Quote from: CowHunter71 on May 27, 2022, 08:15:21 AM
Difference is, I hunt alone, one on one, me against him. This is how I choose to play the game.
Wait...... what if there are 2 gobblers? Or three? or Four? I have killed one out of four and one out of three and I have killed one out of a pair several times. So does that mean I am ultra cool because I beat them 1 against 4 (3 or 2). Or is that not pure enough because it was not mano y mano?
I have had two birds where I was the forward guy. One was my first and one was the bird I killed this year. The bird I killed this year circled us and I ended up in front. I have called in a dozen birds for others-kids, noobs, friends and relatives. Usually side by side, but a few have been with me dropping back. I will likely cry myself to sleep tonight thinking I did not "honor" the bird enough.
Like I said in my post, I don't give a piss what you or coppernutz think. Not forcing my style on anyone, simply stating how I choose to play the game.
Sounds like you are upset. Why?
I have no problem with someone playing the game their own way. I do it too. I just don't imply I am morally superior to them because of the way I hunt.
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Quote from: JohnSouth22 on May 25, 2022, 12:15:11 AM
Curious at to what some of yalls take would be on this topic. I'll begin by making clear that I have never reaped a bird. I have tried several times to see what the hype was about with no results. With that being said I've seen the videos and talked to some people that obviously are very successful with the approach, but I am not anti reaping, I think as long as it is legal there's no right or wrong way to do it (besides limb-shooting in the few places it is legal). My thought process being that if you're anti reaping because of the unfair advantage shouldn't you be anti drop back caller as well? If you shoot a bird having a drop back caller you did not kill that bird, you simply pulled the trigger. But did the other caller even kill the bird? Often times using a drop back caller the dropped back person never even sees the bird, much less gets it in range. So was the tom really tricked when he was going to come in and likely hangup at 70 like he's done for so many years? Or was he robbed of a fair fight? In my opinion it's almost impossible to argue it's not. (Let's be clear I'll use drop back callers I'm not against it in any form I just find how ones generally accepted while one is a cardinal sin conflicting)
Some thoughts I had as I'm on a 18 hour ride to the NE to finish up season
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Wow, where to begin.
If reaping is not legal, you can't do it obviously. Still many states have shot size laws and #8-10 isnt legal yet so many hunters choose to overlook that. At the same time criticize the tactic of reaping. However, with the advent of the TSS shots, many hunters still would choose to take that same 70 yard shot that you mentioned.
I have reaped birds, I have put others in position to do the same. I have never carried a fan with me into the woods though. By default, any bird that hangs up I will call out. If they still stay planted, I'm moving on.
Birds we have reaped have been the last hour (11-12) and during a time where someone has a tag, someone also filled their morning tag, we are trying to double up and we are scouting for the following morning. I have 14 farms for turkey hunting permission and most of it has fields visible from the roadside. IF someone is willing and able to make the walk and crawl, it usually ends with a dead turkey and a very exciting hunt. Full strut and coming to YOU at meer feet!
Shooting a bird someone else called in, you are correct you are just the shooter. This goes down the line of guided turkey hunts, you are paying for a bird and not having any input.
The fun of turkey hunting is hearing them gobble, respond and come into calls or fans...I have no disgust for reaping, TSS, field edge hunters over blinds or decoys. It's the hunters that ambush birds that really get my goat. NO calling, no fanning, no skill. These hunters just walk but usually run or crawl and cut them off to walk into range. Spot and stalk turkey hunting is best saved for biggame and has no place in the turkey woods. That's not hunting, thats a cheap shot with no talent and I rank it equal to roost shooting.
Opinions, Opinions,,,
I disagree on the opinion that putting the sneak on a gobbler is " cheaper " then reaping ??
Personally, I've put the sneak on quite a few back in my greedy days . Even though those days are behind me , IMO it takes way more woody skills to sneak one then to stick a fan up .
Opinions, Opinions
Quote from: Howie g on May 28, 2022, 09:39:32 AM
Opinions, Opinions,,,
I disagree on the opinion that putting the sneak on a gobbler is " cheaper " then reaping ??
Personally, I've put the sneak on quite a few back in my greedy days . Even though those days are behind me , IMO it takes way more woody skills to sneak one then to stick a fan up .
Opinions, Opinions
I would agree. I cant for the life of me fathom how anyone could consider reaping more sporting than stalking. One actually takes some skill and the other doesn't.
Quote from: Howie g on May 27, 2022, 11:43:20 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 27, 2022, 11:11:13 AM
Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 27, 2022, 10:21:17 AMIt's loin cloths and fisticuffs or nothing. #LastOfADyingBreed
(Rare footage of Chester on the hunt)
NOW we know the man behind the screen name. :o Fame walks among us on the OG Forums !!!! :you_rock:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52103287814_acdd3a876e.jpg)
Can't Un see that !!! Lol
No,no,no, come on man! Chester would NEVER wear boots. That's soft and as everybody knows, clearly violates the old school code of conduct.
Quote from: g8rvet on May 26, 2022, 10:12:42 PM
This is getting funny. Now some are saying drop back calling is unethical or unsporting. LOL. That is funny. Oh well, enjoy hunting the way you want. I will drop back call if I am hunting with a buddy with zero hesitation.
I am not sure I can keep up with all the "rules". Maybe someone can post them for us. This is silly.
this^^^
Can someone post the exact ethical rules to killing a gobbler? That way I can study them before next spring.
Ive never reaped a bird, but I've used a solo "drop back" , call and run like hell back to the bird tactic several times. I did it on one this year that liked to hang up at 60-70 yards and then leave down a creek bottom for 100 yards or so and then eventually filter back. I could move and get closer and on his next trip up the creek bottom, he would hang up at a different 60-70 yard spot. This went on a few times until I dropped back and called and then went back to where I was at the last time he hung up. He walked right by me but now I guess I was being unethical.
Rules as per sixes request .
1. No yelping with a store bought caller , custom only .
2 . The killing of any gobbler you didn't walk at least 2 miles in for = unethical.
3 . If you didn't sleep in your truck or a pup tent the night before your hunt ? =unethical
4 . If didn't use tss and optics on your shotgun ? No way you could actually tell what you where aiming at with those old beads ! = unethical.
5. If your gloves don't match your boots Camo pattern? = unethical
6. If you didn't use " on x" to map out your hunt the night before ? = unethical
7. The celebration of a fresh dead gobbler without a cigar or atleast 30 min of explanation of your strategy to anyone who will listen ? =unethical
8. Transporting a dead gobbler in a truck without at least 4 name brands stickers on back glass ? Unethical
9. It's ok to use the reaping method if your wearing full Sitka gear , because the money spent on Camo justifies all actions ! Ethical .
10. The killing of a gobbler without posting a pic on face space within 10 minutes is not only unethical, your just a plain weirdo !
Note = these are just a few rules of the modern turkey hunter pamphlet 101 .
Rules are subject to change after 3 pm on a Sunday ...
I only have four rules
1. Obey the laws of your state
2. The shot must be safe and the target properly identified
3 The turkey is inside your effective killing range and your ok with how you got him there
4. Do unto other hunters as you would have them do unto you.
That's it for me, everything else is someone else's decision. I will sleep just fine with mine. In the end of all discussions on ethics our opinions are mostly drawn on our own assessment of the premise that someone is unfairly taking opportunity away from us. Fairness is a subjective standard and differs widely among people. I think we gripe the most because we feel like our chance of success is diminished because of the actions of someone else. I think deep down in our souls we are often resentful of others success and our own greed is subliminally driving our emotions. In my old age I have finally realized I am only throwing away my own enjoyment of the sport when I get so upset over what someone else does. Now that I have pissed everyone off, I wish you good health and great hunts. Here's something to distract us bitter old men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuiMQPc5aKA
Quote from: Howie g on May 29, 2022, 06:02:38 AM
Rules as per sixes request .
1. No yelping with a store bought caller , custom only .
2 . The killing of any gobbler you didn't walk at least 2 miles in for = unethical.
3 . If you didn't sleep in your truck or a pup tent the night before your hunt ? =unethical
4 . If didn't use tss and optics on your shotgun ? No way you could actually tell what you where aiming at with those old beads ! = unethical.
5. If your gloves don't match your boots Camo pattern? = unethical
6. If you didn't use " on x" to map out your hunt the night before ? = unethical
7. The celebration of a fresh dead gobbler without a cigar or atleast 30 min of explanation of your strategy to anyone who will listen ? =unethical
8. Transporting a dead gobbler in a truck without at least 4 name brands stickers on back glass ? Unethical
9. It's ok to use the reaping method if your wearing full Sitka gear , because the money spent on Camo justifies all actions ! Ethical .
10. The killing of a gobbler without posting a pic on face space within 10 minutes is not only unethical, your just a plain weirdo !
Note = these are just a few rules of the modern turkey hunter pamphlet 101 .
Rules are subject to change after 3 pm on a Sunday ...
PERFECT !!!!
Umma check back this afternoon to see the newest updates.
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 29, 2022, 07:51:55 AM
Quote from: Howie g on May 29, 2022, 06:02:38 AM
Rules as per sixes request .
1. No yelping with a store bought caller , custom only .
2 . The killing of any gobbler you didn't walk at least 2 miles in for = unethical.
3 . If you didn't sleep in your truck or a pup tent the night before your hunt ? =unethical
4 . If didn't use tss and optics on your shotgun ? No way you could actually tell what you where aiming at with those old beads ! = unethical.
5. If your gloves don't match your boots Camo pattern? = unethical
6. If you didn't use " on x" to map out your hunt the night before ? = unethical
7. The celebration of a fresh dead gobbler without a cigar or atleast 30 min of explanation of your strategy to anyone who will listen ? =unethical
8. Transporting a dead gobbler in a truck without at least 4 name brands stickers on back glass ? Unethical
9. It's ok to use the reaping method if your wearing full Sitka gear , because the money spent on Camo justifies all actions ! Ethical .
10. The killing of a gobbler without posting a pic on face space within 10 minutes is not only unethical, your just a plain weirdo !
Note = these are just a few rules of the modern turkey hunter pamphlet 101 .
Rules are subject to change after 3 pm on a Sunday ...
PERFECT !!!!
Umma check back this afternoon to see the newest updates.
This is a magnificent working draft. It's like The Constitution before the amendments . You should be quite proud of what you've done here. This is important work and that cannot be overstated. Like all the greats you've made it look easy.
Quote from: eggshell on May 29, 2022, 06:28:58 AM
I only have four rules
1. Obey the laws of your state
2. The shot must be safe and the target properly identified
3 The turkey is inside your effective killing range and your ok with how you got him there
4. Do unto other hunters as you would have them do unto you.
That's it for me, everything else is someone else's decision. I will sleep just fine with mine. In the end of all discussions on ethics our opinions are mostly drawn on our own assessment of the premise that someone is unfairly taking opportunity away from us. Fairness is a subjective standard and differs widely among people. I think we gripe the most because we feel like our chance of success is diminished because of the actions of someone else. I think deep down in our souls we are often resentful of others success and our own greed is subliminally driving our emotions. In my old age I have finally realized I am only throwing away my own enjoyment of the sport when I get so upset over what someone else does. Now that I have pissed everyone off, I wish you good health and great hunts. Here's something to distract us bitter old men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuiMQPc5aKA
:z-winnersmiley:
Quote from: Howie g on May 29, 2022, 06:02:38 AM
Rules as per sixes request .
1. No yelping with a store bought caller , custom only .
2 . The killing of any gobbler you didn't walk at least 2 miles in for = unethical.
3 . If you didn't sleep in your truck or a pup tent the night before your hunt ? =unethical
4 . If didn't use tss and optics on your shotgun ? No way you could actually tell what you where aiming at with those old beads ! = unethical.
5. If your gloves don't match your boots Camo pattern? = unethical
6. If you didn't use " on x" to map out your hunt the night before ? = unethical
7. The celebration of a fresh dead gobbler without a cigar or atleast 30 min of explanation of your strategy to anyone who will listen ? =unethical
8. Transporting a dead gobbler in a truck without at least 4 name brands stickers on back glass ? Unethical
9. It's ok to use the reaping method if your wearing full Sitka gear , because the money spent on Camo justifies all actions ! Ethical .
10. The killing of a gobbler without posting a pic on face space within 10 minutes is not only unethical, your just a plain weirdo !
Note = these are just a few rules of the modern turkey hunter pamphlet 101 .
Rules are subject to change after 3 pm on a Sunday ...
Well crap. Looks like I have broken every one of those rules. What's my punishment? Only allowed to use a blind and decoys next year? A lifetime subscription to Buckmasters? Please take it easy on me.
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Quote from: Happy on May 29, 2022, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: Howie g on May 29, 2022, 06:02:38 AM
Rules as per sixes request .
1. No yelping with a store bought caller , custom only .
2 . The killing of any gobbler you didn't walk at least 2 miles in for = unethical.
3 . If you didn't sleep in your truck or a pup tent the night before your hunt ? =unethical
4 . If didn't use tss and optics on your shotgun ? No way you could actually tell what you where aiming at with those old beads ! = unethical.
5. If your gloves don't match your boots Camo pattern? = unethical
6. If you didn't use " on x" to map out your hunt the night before ? = unethical
7. The celebration of a fresh dead gobbler without a cigar or atleast 30 min of explanation of your strategy to anyone who will listen ? =unethical
8. Transporting a dead gobbler in a truck without at least 4 name brands stickers on back glass ? Unethical
9. It's ok to use the reaping method if your wearing full Sitka gear , because the money spent on Camo justifies all actions ! Ethical .
10. The killing of a gobbler without posting a pic on face space within 10 minutes is not only unethical, your just a plain weirdo !
Note = these are just a few rules of the modern turkey hunter pamphlet 101 .
Rules are subject to change after 3 pm on a Sunday ...
Well crap. Looks like I have broken every one of those rules. What's my punishment? Only allowed to use a blind and decoys next year? A lifetime subscription to Buckmasters? Please take it easy on me.
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. And wear a Jackie bushman turtle neck ,,, mandatory
Quote from: Howie g on May 29, 2022, 06:02:38 AM
Rules as per sixes request .
1. No yelping with a store bought caller , custom only .
2 . The killing of any gobbler you didn't walk at least 2 miles in for = unethical.
3 . If you didn't sleep in your truck or a pup tent the night before your hunt ? =unethical
4 . If didn't use tss and optics on your shotgun ? No way you could actually tell what you where aiming at with those old beads ! = unethical.
5. If your gloves don't match your boots Camo pattern? = unethical
6. If you didn't use " on x" to map out your hunt the night before ? = unethical
7. The celebration of a fresh dead gobbler without a cigar or atleast 30 min of explanation of your strategy to anyone who will listen ? =unethical
8. Transporting a dead gobbler in a truck without at least 4 name brands stickers on back glass ? Unethical
9. It's ok to use the reaping method if your wearing full Sitka gear , because the money spent on Camo justifies all actions ! Ethical .
10. The killing of a gobbler without posting a pic on face space within 10 minutes is not only unethical, your just a plain weirdo !
Note = these are just a few rules of the modern turkey hunter pamphlet 101 .
Rules are subject to change after 3 pm on a Sunday ...
Thanks for clearing that up. That will help me in the future
Quote from: Howie g on May 29, 2022, 06:02:38 AM
Rules as per sixes request .
1. No yelping with a store bought caller , custom only .
2 . The killing of any gobbler you didn't walk at least 2 miles in for = unethical.
3 . If you didn't sleep in your truck or a pup tent the night before your hunt ? =unethical
4 . If didn't use tss and optics on your shotgun ? No way you could actually tell what you where aiming at with those old beads ! = unethical.
5. If your gloves don't match your boots Camo pattern? = unethical
6. If you didn't use " on x" to map out your hunt the night before ? = unethical
7. The celebration of a fresh dead gobbler without a cigar or atleast 30 min of explanation of your strategy to anyone who will listen ? =unethical
8. Transporting a dead gobbler in a truck without at least 4 name brands stickers on back glass ? Unethical
9. It's ok to use the reaping method if your wearing full Sitka gear , because the money spent on Camo justifies all actions ! Ethical .
10. The killing of a gobbler without posting a pic on face space within 10 minutes is not only unethical, your just a plain weirdo !
Note = these are just a few rules of the modern turkey hunter pamphlet 101 .
Rules are subject to change after 3 pm on a Sunday ...
:z-winnersmiley:
Not the turtleneck! For what it's worth I have never reaped a turkey. With or without Sitka clothing. I do think I do have a sitka beanie I got on clearance somewhere but I figure that ain't even enough to get me out of the truck on a ethical level.
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Quote from: Happy on May 29, 2022, 01:26:20 PMWell crap. Looks like I have broken every one of those rules. What's my punishment? Only allowed to use a blind and decoys next year? A lifetime subscription to Buckmasters? Please take it easy on me.
Haha !!!!! You WISH !!!!!!!!!!!
You're sentenced to a turkey hunting lifetime on public land..........dropped back, calling behind a buddy.............and running THIS out in front of him.
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If I was driving that decoy it would see more air time than any real wild turkey has.
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Quote from: Happy on May 29, 2022, 07:33:44 PM
If I was driving that decoy it would see more air time than any real wild turkey has.
(In my best monster truck event promoter's voice)
It's the great World of Turkey Wheels throwdoooowwwn !!!!!!!!!!!!! The GREATEST turkey spectacle EVERRRRRRRR !!!! Come ome one !!!! Come all !!!!! Buy the whole seat, but you'll ONLY NEED THE EDGE !!!!!!!!! Coming to a turkey arena near you !!!! What day is that ???? SATURDAAAAAAAYYYY !!!!! SATURDAAAAAAYYYYYY !!!! SATURDAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY !!!!
:z-guntootsmiley:
I think it's safe to say most of us were not ready for the season to be over
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Quote from: CowHunter71 on May 27, 2022, 08:15:21 AM
Quite often, as well as dropping back and calling, then repositioning to give the illusion of live Hen drifting around. Difference is, I hunt alone, one on one, me against him. This is how I choose to play the game. Using a second person to drag him by, is horsesh#t to me. May be selfish, but I am not out there to call you up a Gobbler, just like I would not want you to call me up a Gobbler.. I have more respect for these Turkeys than I do most people. My Old School Code, and that of my Kin, demands the game be "won" honorably, period. Most will feel this is ridiculous, but I really do not care. I am sure 'nuff part of a dying breed, and cut from a different cloth than most. Proud of that ;)
[/quote]
:TooFunny:
good riddence to 'YOUR' breed.
if only birds could be killed with self-righteousness
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 29, 2022, 06:59:56 PM
Quote from: Happy on May 29, 2022, 01:26:20 PMWell crap. Looks like I have broken every one of those rules. What's my punishment? Only allowed to use a blind and decoys next year? A lifetime subscription to Buckmasters? Please take it easy on me.
Haha !!!!! You WISH !!!!!!!!!!!
You're sentenced to a turkey hunting lifetime on public land..........dropped back, calling behind a buddy.............and running THIS out in front of him.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52108411136_a81e15f8d0_c.jpg)
LOL!!!!! You've got to be kidding me with this thing! Does it gobble?
That's the most unbelievably ridiculous, obscene contraption I've ever seen. That seriously exists?!!!? Someone posted he could not unsee the loincloth picture. This, I cannot unsee.
Quote from: Howie g on May 28, 2022, 09:39:32 AM
Opinions, Opinions,,,
I disagree on the opinion that putting the sneak on a gobbler is " cheaper " then reaping ??
Personally, I've put the sneak on quite a few back in my greedy days . Even though those days are behind me , IMO it takes way more woody skills to sneak one then to stick a fan up .
Opinions, Opinions
Agreed, way more difficult to do. You would have to really use woodsmanship skills to understand where that bird is going, and how you can effectively get there and be in the right position without being spotted.
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This is pretty good.
https://youtu.be/-xPuLf8K30w
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that's a pretty good one Happy
Quote from: bigriverbum on May 30, 2022, 09:50:03 AM
Quote from: CowHunter71 on May 27, 2022, 08:15:21 AM
Quite often, as well as dropping back and calling, then repositioning to give the illusion of live Hen drifting around. Difference is, I hunt alone, one on one, me against him. This is how I choose to play the game. Using a second person to drag him by, is horsesh#t to me. May be selfish, but I am not out there to call you up a Gobbler, just like I would not want you to call me up a Gobbler.. I have more respect for these Turkeys than I do most people. My Old School Code, and that of my Kin, demands the game be "won" honorably, period. Most will feel this is ridiculous, but I really do not care. I am sure 'nuff part of a dying breed, and cut from a different cloth than most. Proud of that ;)
:TooFunny:
good riddence to 'YOUR' breed.
if only birds could be killed with self-righteousness
[/quote]Unfortunately, the breed of a##hats, like yourself, swells every year.
I guess seasons over. Back to to the short tempers and fighting.

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Quote from: Zobo on May 30, 2022, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 29, 2022, 06:59:56 PM
Quote from: Happy on May 29, 2022, 01:26:20 PMWell crap. Looks like I have broken every one of those rules. What's my punishment? Only allowed to use a blind and decoys next year? A lifetime subscription to Buckmasters? Please take it easy on me.
Haha !!!!! You WISH !!!!!!!!!!!
You're sentenced to a turkey hunting lifetime on public land..........dropped back, calling behind a buddy.............and running THIS out in front of him.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52108411136_a81e15f8d0_c.jpg)
LOL!!!!! You've got to be kidding me with this thing! Does it gobble?
That's the most unbelievably ridiculous, obscene contraption I've ever seen. That seriously exists?!!!? Someone posted he could not unsee the loincloth picture. This, I cannot unsee.
The Gobble Package is optional and also includes an adjustable snood and "question mark" turd dispenser. The one shown above is the base model.
Quote from: bigriverbum on May 30, 2022, 09:50:03 AM
:TooFunny:
good riddence to 'YOUR' breed.
if only birds could be killed with self-righteousness
For somebody who's so tired of tough guy pricks hiding behind online anonymity you play the role "A LOT"
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 30, 2022, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: Zobo on May 30, 2022, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 29, 2022, 06:59:56 PM
Quote from: Happy on May 29, 2022, 01:26:20 PMWell crap. Looks like I have broken every one of those rules. What's my punishment? Only allowed to use a blind and decoys next year? A lifetime subscription to Buckmasters? Please take it easy on me.
Haha !!!!! You WISH !!!!!!!!!!!
You're sentenced to a turkey hunting lifetime on public land..........dropped back, calling behind a buddy.............and running THIS out in front of him.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52108411136_a81e15f8d0_c.jpg)
LOL!!!!! You've got to be kidding me with this thing! Does it gobble?
That's the most unbelievably ridiculous, obscene contraption I've ever seen. That seriously exists?!!!? Someone posted he could not unsee the loincloth picture. This, I cannot unsee.
The Gobble Package is optional and also includes an adjustable snood and "question mark" turd dispenser. The one shown above is the base model.
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Well then clearly the Gobble Package is the smart choice!
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on May 25, 2022, 07:25:07 AM
Limb shooting is actually legal in a lot of places. One could argue its more difficult and requires more skill than reaping. Not to mention safer, and possibly less of an impact on the population (fewer birds harvested by it, "dominant gobbler" theory w/ reaping, etc.).
I got no shame in busting off the limb. It's difficult to roost bird in evening, get in tight without spooking in morning while remembering where exactly said bird is, and being able to shoot through potential vegetation and having perfect shot on bird, I'll do it in a heartbeat if possible.
Quote from: Paulmyr on May 30, 2022, 10:37:29 PM
Quote from: bigriverbum on May 30, 2022, 09:50:03 AM
:TooFunny:
good riddence to 'YOUR' breed.
if only birds could be killed with self-righteousness
For somebody who's so tired of tough guy pricks hiding behind online anonymity you play the role "A LOT"
:z-flirtysmile3:
if calling out said behavior makes me a prick then so be it.
show me one post where i've ever been the aggressor in any negative exchanges/behavior.
good luck
Quote from: Zobo on May 30, 2022, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 30, 2022, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: Zobo on May 30, 2022, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 29, 2022, 06:59:56 PM
Quote from: Happy on May 29, 2022, 01:26:20 PMWell crap. Looks like I have broken every one of those rules. What's my punishment? Only allowed to use a blind and decoys next year? A lifetime subscription to Buckmasters? Please take it easy on me.
Haha !!!!! You WISH !!!!!!!!!!!
You're sentenced to a turkey hunting lifetime on public land..........dropped back, calling behind a buddy.............and running THIS out in front of him.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52108411136_a81e15f8d0_c.jpg)
LOL!!!!! You've got to be kidding me with this thing! Does it gobble?
That's the most unbelievably ridiculous, obscene contraption I've ever seen. That seriously exists?!!!? Someone posted he could not unsee the loincloth picture. This, I cannot unsee.
The Gobble Package is optional and also includes an adjustable snood and "question mark" turd dispenser. The one shown above is the base model.
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Well then clearly the Gobble Package is the smart choice!
It really is !!! Best number of features on a budget.
If you got a little extra coin, though............the Double Gobble Package is pretty sweet !!! It includes the Gobble Package plus 10-ply tires, an extended-run battery and a belt holster for the remote controller.
Only adds a few bucks to your monthly payment. :icon_thumright:
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Quote from: CowHunter71 on May 27, 2022, 08:15:21 AM
Quite often, as well as dropping back and calling, then repositioning to give the illusion of live Hen drifting around. Difference is, I hunt alone, one on one, me against him. This is how I choose to play the game. Using a second person to drag him by, is horsesh#t to me. May be selfish, but I am not out there to call you up a Gobbler, just like I would not want you to call me up a Gobbler.. I have more respect for these Turkeys than I do most people. My Old School Code, and that of my Kin, demands the game be "won" honorably, period. Most will feel this is ridiculous, but I really do not care. I am sure 'nuff part of a dying breed, and cut from a different cloth than most. Proud of that ;)
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good riddence to 'YOUR' breed.
if only birds could be killed with self-righteousnessNo doubt
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Quote from: bigriverbum on May 31, 2022, 08:19:36 AM
if calling out said behavior makes me a prick then so be it.
show me one post where i've ever been the aggressor in any negative exchanges/behavior.
good luck
Since this thread has already been derailed, I'll indulge you. Here's some posts of yours from a single thread.
1st you start off by mocking a non resident who's talking about regulation changes detrimental to non residents in a state where he owns property with a wisecrack about only being able to shoot 4 bucks.
Then later in the same thread you felt the need to correct my grammar and call me a whiner then parody me a few post later. Then you proceeded to use improper word structure by spelling "wisconsin", a proper noun without a capital W (can you say hypocrisy), while making another wisecrack about how I wouldn't be missed in "wisconsin" either.
Now, when the OP asked for opinions Cowhunter71 gave his, a little rough in his delivery, but his opinion none the less. He backed his opinion with his heritage and the code of ethics instilled in him by his family. You, on the other hand, have nothing to offer this thread but to attack him, his family, and his heritage. Talk about self righteous, look in the mirror lately. I'm sure there's more examples but I'm not wasting my time on it any longer than I already have.
Apparently you're the self-appointed internet police and feel need to monitor people's opinions and how they deliver them. A reference to the tough guy prick who hides behind online anonymity remark you've used in yet another post. Notice my username is an abbreviation of my real name in my signature line. Who's hiding?
I hope my grammar and sentence structure is up to par. I'd hate to be pulled over by the online police again.
Here's some screenshots to refresh your memory.
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 31, 2022, 08:58:56 AM
Quote from: Zobo on May 30, 2022, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 30, 2022, 09:11:43 PM
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Quote from: Happy on May 29, 2022, 01:26:20 PMWell crap. Looks like I have broken every one of those rules. What's my punishment? Only allowed to use a blind and decoys next year? A lifetime subscription to Buckmasters? Please take it easy on me.
Haha !!!!! You WISH !!!!!!!!!!!
You're sentenced to a turkey hunting lifetime on public land..........dropped back, calling behind a buddy.............and running THIS out in front of him.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52108411136_a81e15f8d0_c.jpg)
LOL!!!!! You've got to be kidding me with this thing! Does it gobble?
That's the most unbelievably ridiculous, obscene contraption I've ever seen. That seriously exists?!!!? Someone posted he could not unsee the loincloth picture. This, I cannot unsee.
The Gobble Package is optional and also includes an adjustable snood and "question mark" turd dispenser. The one shown above is the base model.
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Well then clearly the Gobble Package is the smart choice!
It really is !!! Best number of features on a budget.
If you got a little extra coin, though............the Double Gobble Package is pretty sweet !!! It includes the Gobble Package plus 10-ply tires, an extended-run battery and a belt holster for the remote controller.
Only adds a few bucks to your monthly payment. :icon_thumright:
LOL!!!!
Ok, ok, you've convinced me, I'll go Double Gobble.
But help me out, I've got a tss loaded .410 revolver I want to implant in that thing, you got a conversion kit with remote capabilities for that?
Quote from: Zobo on May 31, 2022, 10:15:18 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 31, 2022, 08:58:56 AM
Quote from: Zobo on May 30, 2022, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 30, 2022, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: Zobo on May 30, 2022, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 29, 2022, 06:59:56 PM
Quote from: Happy on May 29, 2022, 01:26:20 PMWell crap. Looks like I have broken every one of those rules. What's my punishment? Only allowed to use a blind and decoys next year? A lifetime subscription to Buckmasters? Please take it easy on me.
Haha !!!!! You WISH !!!!!!!!!!!
You're sentenced to a turkey hunting lifetime on public land..........dropped back, calling behind a buddy.............and running THIS out in front of him.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52108411136_a81e15f8d0_c.jpg)
LOL!!!!! You've got to be kidding me with this thing! Does it gobble?
That's the most unbelievably ridiculous, obscene contraption I've ever seen. That seriously exists?!!!? Someone posted he could not unsee the loincloth picture. This, I cannot unsee.
The Gobble Package is optional and also includes an adjustable snood and "question mark" turd dispenser. The one shown above is the base model.
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
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Well then clearly the Gobble Package is the smart choice!
It really is !!! Best number of features on a budget.
If you got a little extra coin, though............the Double Gobble Package is pretty sweet !!! It includes the Gobble Package plus 10-ply tires, an extended-run battery and a belt holster for the remote controller.
Only adds a few bucks to your monthly payment. :icon_thumright:
LOL!!!!
Ok, ok, you've convinced me, I'll go Double Gobble.
But help me out, I've got a tss loaded .410 revolver I want to implant in that thing, you got a conversion kit with remote capabilities for that?
I think you'd be missing the boat with the Double Gobble. What I think you really need is the Reaper model. It comes equipped with a mechanics dolly, up graded electric motor, and 12" mag wheels. No need to belly crawl! Reap in comfort and style with the many optional accessories including a gun holster and bug screen!
I like the idea of a bug screen. I think you're on to something here. Maybe instead of the turd dispenser(I know it's difficult to let something like that go, but life is about tradeoffs afterall) we put a thermacell in is place?
Guys, use your heads a bit. DEET infused turds. And the body of the decoy can just be a giant Theromcell. I ain't got where I have got as head greeter at Walmart by just being extremely good looking.
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Quote from: Paulmyr on May 31, 2022, 11:26:10 PM
Quote from: Zobo on May 31, 2022, 10:15:18 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 31, 2022, 08:58:56 AM
Quote from: Zobo on May 30, 2022, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 30, 2022, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: Zobo on May 30, 2022, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on May 29, 2022, 06:59:56 PM
Quote from: Happy on May 29, 2022, 01:26:20 PMWell crap. Looks like I have broken every one of those rules. What's my punishment? Only allowed to use a blind and decoys next year? A lifetime subscription to Buckmasters? Please take it easy on me.
Haha !!!!! You WISH !!!!!!!!!!!
You're sentenced to a turkey hunting lifetime on public land..........dropped back, calling behind a buddy.............and running THIS out in front of him.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52108411136_a81e15f8d0_c.jpg)
LOL!!!!! You've got to be kidding me with this thing! Does it gobble?
That's the most unbelievably ridiculous, obscene contraption I've ever seen. That seriously exists?!!!? Someone posted he could not unsee the loincloth picture. This, I cannot unsee.
The Gobble Package is optional and also includes an adjustable snood and "question mark" turd dispenser. The one shown above is the base model.
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Well then clearly the Gobble Package is the smart choice!
It really is !!! Best number of features on a budget.
If you got a little extra coin, though............the Double Gobble Package is pretty sweet !!! It includes the Gobble Package plus 10-ply tires, an extended-run battery and a belt holster for the remote controller.
Only adds a few bucks to your monthly payment. :icon_thumright:
LOL!!!!
Ok, ok, you've convinced me, I'll go Double Gobble.
But help me out, I've got a tss loaded .410 revolver I want to implant in that thing, you got a conversion kit with remote capabilities for that?
I think you'd be missing the boat with the Double Gobble. What I think you really need is the Reaper model. It comes equipped with a mechanics dolly, up graded electric motor, and 12" mag wheels. No need to belly crawl! Reap in comfort and style with the many optional accessories including a gun holster and bug screen!
Actually.............what you're describing is the Double Shock Gobble and Awe model.
Comes with everything the Double Gobble offers. But it also caters to the western hunter and the reaper crowd. Amenities include :
Extra 5" suspension lift
12" mag wheels with Baby Super Swamper tires
Front and rear air locker differentials
Tru-Strut motion fan holder with standard fan AND 4' peekaboo, reaping fan
Rear mount beer can holder
Front GoPro mount
Towing package with reaping trailer hitch (aluminum reaping trailer sold separately)
I'm getting more confused all the time. why do we need a Grim reaper, motorized decoy if we're drop back passing/ or calling?
However, since we're discussing all the different models I may as well put my pitch in for the ultimate gobbler getter reaping machine. All the above mentioned options plus Full 360 video capability with instant upload to youtube, includes a gun turent in your desired guage, full remote trigger, nitrus oxide boost (in case he runs) and meat hook deployment for retrieval. This model includes a drink dispenser for your celebration once the reaper returns with your gobbler to your tree. It also has a removeable seat that can be used to ride in and out of the woods.
Quote from: eggshell on June 01, 2022, 09:57:20 AM
Why do we need a Grim reaper, motorized decoy if we're drop back passing/ or calling?
In case one's motivation level is not up to drop back calling............
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You might wanna include GPS navigation just in case you over indulge on the beers.
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OnX enabled ???
Hmmm, I wonder how long it will take before we actually see the Grim Reaper Double Gobble Extreme actually on the market? Hope we didn't give somebody any Ideas!
All that's fine and dandy. But I'm after realism. I'm holding out for the glide down model. If a gobbler sees this poop on the limb, pitch out of the tree, glide to the ground and then starts strutting, it's all over.
Quote from: Paulmyr on June 01, 2022, 10:43:04 AM
Hmmm, I wonder how long it will take before we actually see the Grim Reaper Double Gobble Extreme actually on the market? Hope we didn't give somebody any Ideas!
It's all documented here.
Don't know about the rest of yinz........but I already been to my attorney and had my intellectual property trademarked. Just a waitin' to cash in !!!! :z-twocents:
Quote from: Happy on May 30, 2022, 11:41:57 AM
This is pretty good.
https://youtu.be/-xPuLf8K30w
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Lol, aged very well too considering the world's biggest proponent is Michael Wadell
Quote from: guesswho on June 01, 2022, 10:46:33 AM
All that's fine and dandy. But I'm after realism. I'm holding out for the glide down model. If a gobbler sees this poop on the limb, pitch out of the tree, glide to the ground and then starts strutting, it's all over.
Already done.
Susie the Flydown Floosie.
A glide-bot that is drone powered. Base model comes with the Flap & Cackle package as standard equipment. An FCC license is required for operation and a daily flight plan must be registered with the FAA.
I'm in yoder, where do I send the check?
Quote from: zelmo1 on June 01, 2022, 10:59:52 AM
I'm in yoder, where do I send the check?
Not so fast..............
We're gonna need a signed copy of your FCC license, proof of income and 3 credit references before we can set up the financing.
These ain't cheap !!!
I got a nice Kreighoff I can put up as collateral, lol. I'd actually settle for a new vest that fits fat men like my old Cabelas Tactical Tatr
22 mag is cheaper and just as deadly.
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Quote from: guesswho on June 01, 2022, 10:46:33 AM
All that's fine and dandy. But I'm after realism. I'm holding out for the glide down model. If a gobbler sees this poop on the limb, pitch out of the tree, glide to the ground and then starts strutting, it's all over.
Already done.
Susie the Flydown Floosie.
A glide-bot that is drone powered. Base model comes with the Flap & Cackle package as standard equipment. An FCC license is required for operation and a daily flight plan must be registered with the FAA.
This one cracks me up!!!!
Well this thread has gone off the rails and into the river....oh well I guess we might as well have fun. I think we've finally come to the point everyone is tired of all the ethical discussions and opinions. When reasonable judgement and common sense no longer prevails silliness, insanity and anarchy ensues.
It's going to be a long summer.
Quote from: guesswho on June 01, 2022, 04:29:29 PM
It's going to be a long summer.
well we all did get addicted to a hobby that can only be done for 30-60 days, depending on if you travel to hunt. Yup we're a really smart bunch....
oh I hate hot weather, so every summer is long and torturous
I've been slowly weening myself off of it for the last 55 years. I figure about another 20
or 25 years and I'll be cured.
Yup, the withdrawal started today putting away my gear. Thank god we have us die-hards to chat about these type threads. Keeps us going.....
Quote from: eggshell on June 01, 2022, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: guesswho on June 01, 2022, 04:29:29 PM
It's going to be a long summer.
well we all did get addicted to a hobby that can only be done for 30-60 days, depending on if you travel to hunt. Yup we're a really smart bunch....
LOL, so true!!! Turkey hunting is way more thought than action.
We've got to keep ourselves entertained somehow!
Quote from: Tom007 on June 01, 2022, 05:28:05 PM
Yup, the withdrawal started today putting away my gear.
The withdrawal started on my walk out after filling my last tag.............
Kinda like, now, it's Sunday morning and we're all comin' down..........
Quote from: Yoder409 on June 01, 2022, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on June 01, 2022, 05:28:05 PM
Yup, the withdrawal started today putting away my gear.
The withdrawal started on my walk out after filling my last tag.............
Kinda like, now, it's Sunday morning and we're all comin' down..........
Yea, depressing to think we have a year to hit it again......
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Quote from: Yoder409 on June 01, 2022, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on June 01, 2022, 05:28:05 PM
Yup, the withdrawal started today putting away my gear.
The withdrawal started on my walk out after filling my last tag.............
Kinda like, now, it's Sunday morning and we're all comin' down..........
Yea, depressing to think we have a year to hit it again......
Well, ain't YOU our bluebird of happiness ????
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Quote from: Tom007 on June 02, 2022, 06:35:53 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on June 01, 2022, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on June 01, 2022, 05:28:05 PM
Yup, the withdrawal started today putting away my gear.
The withdrawal started on my walk out after filling my last tag.............
Kinda like, now, it's Sunday morning and we're all comin' down..........
Yea, depressing to think we have a year to hit it again......
Well, ain't YOU our bluebird of happiness ????
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Zippity Do Dah!
I ain't waiting no year, fall seasons start opening in October. I will be fall gobbler hunting, yes sir Bob
Quote from: eggshell on June 02, 2022, 11:40:27 AM
I ain't waiting no year, fall seasons start opening in October. I will be fall gobbler hunting, yes sir Bob
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Quote from: ol bob on May 25, 2022, 11:59:30 AM
Hunt however it's legal in your state, anyway that makes you happy, and don't feel like you have to tell anyone else how you hunt. You and everyone else will be happy.



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Quote from: BDeal on June 02, 2022, 04:28:46 PM
Quote from: RutnNStrutn on June 02, 2022, 03:31:01 PM
Quote from: ol bob on May 25, 2022, 11:59:30 AM
Hunt however it's legal in your state, anyway that makes you happy, and don't feel like you have to tell anyone else how you hunt. You and everyone else will be happy.


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I agree to a point but the reality is that some so called hunters have no ethics whatsoever. Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. There are folks that would love to sit over baitpiles or reap and kill every turkey they possibly could.
True. However, if it's legal in a certain state, who are you, I or anyone else to say don't do it? That's the problem with ethics. It varies from person to person. Legal and illegal don't. That's why I've always been of the mindset that if it's legal, and you want to do it, have at it and I wish you luck. That's not the same thing as saying that I'd do it also.
Sometimes hunters are their own worst enemies. There's already enough people trying to put a stop to hunting altogether. If we stop a certain method of hunting just because we don't like it, all we've done is making the anti's job easier, and put them one step closer to their goal.
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I do understand what you are saying but at the same time, some practices (reaping and baiting) push so far beyond fair chase and paint hunters in such a bad light that they are worth standing up against in my opinion. Not an issue that will ever be solved....
I am me and I will criticize most that employ tactics that I consider to be beyond the bounds of fair chase, whether legal or not.
I am going to use a blow gun and bone spear next year. I just need shoulder, back and knee surgery to run em down :funnyturkey:
Quote from: zelmo1 on June 03, 2022, 12:40:49 PM
I am going to use a blow gun and bone spear next year. I just need shoulder, back and knee surgery to run em down :funnyturkey:
Solid plan !!!! :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Just ran across my old Wrist Rocket the other day............. Thinking a new band and a sack of marbles and next spring is a WHOOOOOOOLE new ballgame for me !!! :you_rock:
Quote from: silvestris on June 03, 2022, 12:21:50 PM
I am me and I will criticize most that employ tactics that I consider to be beyond the bounds of fair chase, whether legal or not.
Just because it's legal doesn't make it right.
Quote from: silvestris on June 03, 2022, 12:21:50 PM
I am me and I will criticize most that employ tactics that I consider to be beyond the bounds of fair chase, whether legal or not.
Imagine that!!

You criticize anyone who doesn't think, talk, act and hunt like you.
Quote from: Yoder409 on June 02, 2022, 10:29:30 AM
Quote from: Tom007 on June 02, 2022, 06:35:53 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on June 01, 2022, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on June 01, 2022, 05:28:05 PM
Yup, the withdrawal started today putting away my gear.
The withdrawal started on my walk out after filling my last tag.............
Kinda like, now, it's Sunday morning and we're all comin' down..........
Yea, depressing to think we have a year to hit it again......
Well, ain't YOU our bluebird of happiness ????
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We always have each other :fire:
Quote from: Tom007 on June 03, 2022, 08:24:49 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on June 02, 2022, 10:29:30 AM
Quote from: Tom007 on June 02, 2022, 06:35:53 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on June 01, 2022, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on June 01, 2022, 05:28:05 PM
Yup, the withdrawal started today putting away my gear.
The withdrawal started on my walk out after filling my last tag.............
Kinda like, now, it's Sunday morning and we're all comin' down..........
Yea, depressing to think we have a year to hit it again......
Well, ain't YOU our bluebird of happiness ????
:TooFunny:
We always have each other :fire:
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