I got this in an email from Mossy Oak. Interesting concept.
https://store.mossyoak.com/products/wild-turkey-stamp?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MO%20%2B%20TMOS%20%7C%20Wild%20Turkey%20Stamps%20%28TdWtMx%29&utm_term=01FR1NEV5N2GZ7NS32YBJD7G8E&utm_content=&_kx=Hl390zjHIIMz_wB02NNuAka_1Qv33fZ5Zc7te5Roex0%3D.H9xwbi
It's kinda working in the same way the federal duck stamp. I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to make it mandatory for turkey hunting too. It could be just a state run deal so it's doesn't have the FEDS grasp on it.
No, just no.
Fine concept, but what's with the $4.95 shipping?
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Quote from: the Ward on April 20, 2022, 10:25:45 AM
No, just no.
Curious as to why you'd be opposed if all the money went to turkey conservation/research?
I contributed to the stamp, bought 2, turkeys need all the help they can get.
Quote from: JeffC on April 20, 2022, 12:20:05 PM
I contributed to the stamp, bought 2, turkeys need all the help they can get.
My thoughts too, I bought one
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Quote from: dublelung on April 20, 2022, 12:10:01 PM
Quote from: the Ward on April 20, 2022, 10:25:45 AM
No, just no.
Curious as to why you'd be opposed if all the money went to turkey conservation/research?
I was just responding to the idea of a federal stamp. Throwing money to the government to solve a problem
just makes it more expensive to solve. And they have a vested interest in never solving it, so they can keep raising
the fee to purchase the stamp, to keep the money coming in to be wasted on everything but what the money is supposed
to go to.Have you followed the cost increase of duck stamps over the last 35 years? I am all for funding for wildlife if the money
is used wisely, sadly it often is not. I have seen big cost increases in my own state, as well as a decrease in hunting opportunities.
I am not seeing a beneficial cost vs result, at least not where i hunt, and this does not mean strictly turkey, but waterfowl as well.
Quote from: the Ward on April 20, 2022, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: dublelung on April 20, 2022, 12:10:01 PM
Quote from: the Ward on April 20, 2022, 10:25:45 AM
No, just no.
Curious as to why you'd be opposed if all the money went to turkey conservation/research?
I was just responding to the idea of a federal stamp. Throwing money to the government to solve a problem
just makes it more expensive to solve. And they have a vested interest in never solving it, so they can keep raising
the fee to purchase the stamp, to keep the money coming in to be wasted on everything but what the money is supposed
to go to.Have you followed the cost increase of duck stamps over the last 35 years? I am all for funding for wildlife if the money
is used wisely, sadly it often is not. I have seen big cost increases in my own state, as well as a decrease in hunting opportunities.
I am not seeing a beneficial cost vs result, at least not where i hunt, and this does not mean strictly turkey, but waterfowl as well.
Lots of truth there. I wish the problem was as easy as throwing some money at it and the turkey populations would rebound.
I think the fact that it is Mossy Oak, a non-government entity, makes it that much more of a great cause to support. I would much rather have my dollars directly supporting research and biologists than my wonderful state taking their fair share of it and then allocating the rest.
Absolutely a great idea! And I will be buying a couple!
Have a good one
Bo
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This is the standard by which how funds ought to be managed and distributed...none of the organizational or federal skimming and scheming. I bought extras, am going to give them to my landowners for Christmas, the art on the stamp is great, and for sure sends message I am there to do more than kill a turkey
Put it in a collector card case because it will fetch $100 or more in a few years if this catches on.
Thinking about getting a couple and having them put into a glass pot call. Any ideas who would be a good call maker to send them to?
Quote from: RiverRoost on April 21, 2022, 10:02:03 AM
Thinking about getting a couple and having them put into a glass pot call. Any ideas who would be a good call maker to send them to?
I'd bet most any callmaker would be happy to do that for you. Great idea.
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Good on mossy oak for doing something to help conservation efforts and raise awareness.
Quote from: the Ward on April 20, 2022, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: dublelung on April 20, 2022, 12:10:01 PM
Quote from: the Ward on April 20, 2022, 10:25:45 AM
No, just no.
Curious as to why you'd be opposed if all the money went to turkey conservation/research?
I was just responding to the idea of a federal stamp. Throwing money to the government to solve a problem
just makes it more expensive to solve. And they have a vested interest in never solving it, so they can keep raising
the fee to purchase the stamp, to keep the money coming in to be wasted on everything but what the money is supposed
to go to.Have you followed the cost increase of duck stamps over the last 35 years? I am all for funding for wildlife if the money
is used wisely, sadly it often is not. I have seen big cost increases in my own state, as well as a decrease in hunting opportunities.
I am not seeing a beneficial cost vs result, at least not where i hunt, and this does not mean strictly turkey, but waterfowl as well.
Absolute truth. I agree. Keep the Feds out of it. Keep all politicians out of hunting, period.
For example, I've been hunting SC for 15 years. The politicians there overrule the biologists, and set up rules not to help turkeys, but instead to screw non-residents and raise the costs of hunting there.
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Also, I don't care to contribute to Mossy Oak, Realtree, etc. They're just like the big name "conservation" organizations like DU & NWTF. They expect the little guys to contribute big $$$ to fund the salaries of the CEO, who in turn spend big money for private turkey hunting operations run by elite millionaires. All you have to do is watch the TV shows about DU, NWTF and other orgs.
Yes, I know the fat cats do donate the scraps off the table to public land projects. But the majority of money donated by the ordinary people, go to private projects for the wealthy.
I used to be all about these orgs when I was younger, but when I started researching where the money goes, and watching their elitist TV shows I stopped supporting these cash cow organizations.
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I bought one never hurts to help support what we love to do
Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 21, 2022, 10:44:57 AM
Also, I don't care to contribute to Mossy Oak, Realtree, etc. They're just like the big name "conservation" organizations like DU & NWTF. They expect the little guys to contribute big $$$ to fund the salaries of the CEO, who in turn spend big money for private turkey hunting operations run by elite millionaires. All you have to do is watch the TV shows about DU, NWTF and other orgs.
Yes, I know the fat cats do donate the scraps off the table to public land projects. But the majority of money donated by the ordinary people, go to private projects for the wealthy.
I used to be all about these orgs when I was younger, but when I started researching where the money goes, and watching their elitist TV shows I stopped supporting these cash cow organizations.
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Absolutely agree. So I'm suppose to trust corporate America with my donations? All the money goes to conservation/research? Yeah, right. Sorry I've lived a life with my eyes open and my brain functioning.
And as far as collector's value only IF they stop printing it but of course that's at their discretion. They say limited edition but who's limiting it? I would'nt count on it because there's no incentive to limit money donations.
Sorry, but it's probably a marketing gimmick to call it "limited edition." On the positive side it is a nice looking stamp.
I brought 4, Oh well..
All this is fine ,, but if mossy oak and all the other " big players " actually want to help populations ??
Fund a bounty for nest predators....
Quote from: Howie g on April 24, 2022, 09:19:04 AM
All this is fine ,, but if mossy oak and all the other " big players " actually want to help populations ??
Fund a bounty for nest predators....
I like that idea.
Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 21, 2022, 10:44:57 AM
Also, I don't care to contribute to Mossy Oak, Realtree, etc. They're just like the big name "conservation" organizations like DU & NWTF. They expect the little guys to contribute big $$$ to fund the salaries of the CEO, who in turn spend big money for private turkey hunting operations run by elite millionaires. All you have to do is watch the TV shows about DU, NWTF and other orgs.
Yes, I know the fat cats do donate the scraps off the table to public land projects. But the majority of money donated by the ordinary people, go to private projects for the wealthy.
I used to be all about these orgs when I was younger, but when I started researching where the money goes, and watching their elitist TV shows I stopped supporting these cash cow organizations.
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Same for me. I belonged to a few nationally known orgs, but after i saw how they treated the
local branches that did all the fundraising, then didn't get any benefits from doing so, really soured
my opinion of them and i no longer belong. Not condemning all of them 100%, but a lot of money raised locally went to fund private projects in other states, places members are never going to be allowed to hunt. This has been a common theme with some of them, as witnessed by many threads on the subject on many outdoor forums. Certainly not against M.O. for trying to do something positive, or hunters that want to contribute, but i am wary of anyone that wants my dime anymore.
I agree with everything that has been said. But if it helps even a little I'll continue to donate funds. Add it all up and it's probably only a $200 or so a year between different turkey organizations I donate to. $200 is not gonna make or break me.
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I encourage everyone who is skeptical to listen to the latest episode of "The Turkey Hunter Podcast," where Daniel Haas, one of Toxey's sons, addresses a lot of the concerns mentioned here. I understand skepticism, and I don't know them personally, but the Haas family and Mossy Oak seem like genuine people. They have a very obvious respect for the wild turkey, and have done more to help them than most.
I would tend to trust the folks at Mossy Oak, Toxey and crew have always portrayed themselves as true stewards of the land.
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Nope