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Title: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: mcw3734 on March 15, 2022, 02:25:21 AM
I believe my native state of New York still restricts shot size to #8 or larger.

What other states or provinces require #8, or larger, as a minimum for turkeys? Also, any areas have sub-gauge restrictions?

Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: joey46 on March 15, 2022, 03:59:10 AM
Good question.  You are good with a .410 and 9s in Florida.  Used a 8 1/2 12 ga TSS load last Friday.  With TSS all bets are off but some states are stubborn.
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: Bowguy on March 15, 2022, 06:40:18 AM
NJ as well. I forget if it's NY or NJ since I actively hunt both states but don't use that size shot anyhow.
Couple years ago one of the fellas from the state shot 9s into ballastic gel as a test. He was impressed. Was supppsed to have meeting over it. Than Covid hit. Put the kabosh on everything. I'll see him tonight. Gonna see if he can renergize this
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: troutfisher13111 on March 15, 2022, 06:51:07 AM
NY is 8 or bigger


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Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: GobbleGitr on March 15, 2022, 07:35:27 AM
Iowa has a bill introduced to legislature to allow #9 shot, fingers crossed it will be data driven and make it through...until then restricted to 8's
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: rakkin6 on March 15, 2022, 07:52:10 AM
You are good to go with #9 in both states I hunt, which is Kentucky and Tennessee.

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Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: btomlin on March 15, 2022, 08:31:23 AM
Quote from: GobbleGitr on March 15, 2022, 07:35:27 AM
Iowa has a bill introduced to legislature to allow #9 shot, fingers crossed it will be data driven and make it through...until then restricted to 8's

I had not heard this.   Fingers crossed.  Hopefully they are considering the addition of sub gauges also. They need to get with the times.
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: Dtrkyman on March 15, 2022, 09:39:57 AM
Where are these states coming up with number 8s?  Not a common size at all, only available from custom ammo companies or hand loads.

I drew Iowa this year and had to get some shot to load, luckily I was able to trade for a small amount so I had a handful of rounds.
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: btomlin on March 15, 2022, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: Dtrkyman on March 15, 2022, 09:39:57 AM
Where are these states coming up with number 8s?  Not a common size at all, only available from custom ammo companies or hand loads.

I drew Iowa this year and had to get some shot to load, luckily I was able to trade for a small amount so I had a handful of rounds.

Iowa has been 4-8 shot for as long as I can remember and well before HVL/TSS shot.  I'm assuming the regs are based mainly on lead.  As I said in my prior post....it's time to get with the times.
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: albrubacker on March 15, 2022, 03:00:11 PM
Delaware is 4, 5, or 6. 7 are legal only when mixed with 4, 5 or 6.  :z-dizzy:
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: Loyalist84 on March 15, 2022, 04:07:15 PM
Not a state, but Ontario is #7 or larger, and no gauge smaller than 20.
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: RiverBuck on March 15, 2022, 04:36:59 PM
Virginia: When using a shotgun it is unlawful to use or have in possession any shot larger than number 2 fine shot during spring turkey season.
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: Mallard1897 on March 15, 2022, 06:41:56 PM
Connecticut is no smaller than #7-1/2.

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Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: Dtrkyman on March 15, 2022, 07:25:24 PM
No number 8 turkey loads existed until TSS.  There were some Federal 7.5 back in the day!


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Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: highball on March 15, 2022, 07:41:38 PM
How about Texas?
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: Tail Feathers on March 15, 2022, 08:51:51 PM
If I remember, nothing bigger than 2 shot.  No restriction on the smaller shot.  I live in TX and shoot TSS 9's.  EDIT: In a quick look some counties with Easterns are "shotgun only" with no mention of shot size.
Most of Rio country is rifle or shotgun.
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: joey46 on March 16, 2022, 05:50:30 AM
Waiting on a PA reply.  If nothing else this spring should be able to do a mid May hunt there at a wife's cousins home in the Poconos.  Be on all State Game Lands.  Their home is surrounded by it.  May take the .410 with Apex 9 1/2 or the 12 with Apex 8 1/2 if legal.  Still have some WW HV #6 lead in the safe if necessary but the more recent birds seem to prefer being shot at with TSS. LOL.  :turkey2: :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: Bowguy on March 16, 2022, 06:49:07 AM
Was told last night, NJ was hot to trot on 9s and .410s but Covid disallowed the meeting and now it's not even a consideration again
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: GobbleGitr on March 16, 2022, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: btomlin on March 15, 2022, 08:31:23 AM
Quote from: GobbleGitr on March 15, 2022, 07:35:27 AM
Iowa has a bill introduced to legislature to allow #9 shot, fingers crossed it will be data driven and make it through...until then restricted to 8's

I had not heard this.   Fingers crossed.  Hopefully they are considering the addition of sub gauges also. They need to get with the times.
Yep-sub gauges are part of the bill...would be great to bring Iowa into the modern age
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: joey46 on March 16, 2022, 10:28:55 AM
While I'd prefer to use a TSS load it won't be a deal breaker.  Used  WW HV for years and can use it again if necessary. 
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: outdoorsmen on March 16, 2022, 11:30:23 AM
Illinois is still 4-7.5 in nothing smaller then a 20ga.
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: Sir-diealot on March 16, 2022, 11:38:07 AM
Yes New York still restricts to number 8 shot, I hope they change it eventually but only with tungsten shot.

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Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: WildTigerTrout on March 16, 2022, 03:43:49 PM
Pennsylvania is good for #9 shot and .410 bore shotguns.  That's what I am using this year.
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: joey46 on March 16, 2022, 04:08:01 PM
Thanks.  I wasn't sure. 
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: Dtrkyman on March 17, 2022, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: outdoorsmen on March 16, 2022, 11:30:23 AM
Illinois is still 4-7.5 in nothing smaller then a 20ga.

"Hunting Devices: Shotgun (20 gauge to 10 gauge only, no 410 or 28 gauge allowed). Overall minimum length is 26 inches and the minimum barrel length is 18 inches. #4 shot is the largest size shot that may be legally used."

Illinois changed shot size restriction several years ago!
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: Sungrazer on March 17, 2022, 12:27:39 PM
I wish Illinois would allow 28 gauge, and 410. Would love to have a over/under Turkey dedicated 28.
Title: Re: States that do not allow #9 shot
Post by: sixbird on March 17, 2022, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on March 16, 2022, 06:49:07 AM
Was told last night, NJ was hot to trot on 9s and .410s but Covid disallowed the meeting and now it's not even a consideration again

N.J. IS considering. Sub gauges AND shot size 10 and up in tss.
Hopefully it'll pass. If it does, it normally takes two years to be officially written into code.
Fingers crossed.