Well season's almost done so lets hear about the Mueller site's. Any bad reviews? Anyone have any problems? I figure their may be a few of you guys that put them through the mill and was pretty ruff on'em. How did they hold up? I will be putting one on my gun for next season if the over all reports say "Good things" I know they are man made so we can expect a few things to happen but whats your over all opinion?
Like mine my guide did also. Just need to get some Loctite for the mount. Knew it just did not get it done. Stayed on target through many test shots so far.
I loved mine for the first 4 gobblers, then as number 5 was walking into range my reticle failed me (showed up in pieces - not a battery failure and hard to explain but it was a failure).
Called and emailed customer service and they were great. Had a brand new scope to me at no cost or hassel within 2 days (in other words they sent me a new one without seeing mine that i was sending back).
if nothing else I would back their product based on customer service alone :z-winnersmiley:
I felt like I should add on to my other review so here it goes...
The Good:
I have mine mounted on an new 870 12 gauge and put a number of rounds threw the gun with the scope sighting it in, patterning with different chokes/ loads etc...(like most of us tend to do) and ended up taking 5 birds with it this year. Most of my shot's were 3 1/2" shells and the scope held zero very well. The Mag Blends kick like a borrowed Mule and if can hold up to them, it can withstand about any kind of shock you want to put down the barrel.
Im aggressive with my turkey hunting and my equipment as a result. I dont mind crawling and sneaking threw the thick stuff when I need to and i did plenty of that this season and I never once felt like the scope would have an issue with being to fragile to handle the abuse as it seems to be very well built and sturdy. As expected, the scope never had an issue with any of it and held zero the entire season.
I really like the size of the scope as it sits on my gun and the 4 options you have to choose from as far as reticles go. The Euro Dot style was my personal favorite. Ive shot red dots with just the dots and they are fine as well but having the multiple options is a nice feature just the same.
As far as battery life goes, I used this gun all season at the "auto brightness" setting and it worked without fail for me. I hunted plenty of afternoons when you kind of expect the birds to come in silent so I would leave the scope on auto as I waited so I wouldnt have to mess with it if one snuck in on me and the battery never showed any signs of wearing out. I do like that you dont have to take the scope off to change the battery when you do decide to. I kept a spare in my vest just in case and in the event that I needed to change it out in the middle of the hunt, I think it would have been a very quick and easy task without needing any tools or hassle. This was a big selling feature for me because the last thing that I want to worry about is a battery issue in the middle of a hunt.
The last factor was that I picked up mine for about 100$ brand new so the price is very very fair.
I found the field of view to be very very good and this is the main reason that I went with a scope like this verses a more traditional tube style red dot.
The Bad:
I did have a malfunction on the reticle on one of the last hunts of the season. It's difficult to describe what happened but using the Euro dot, the best way to describe what happened is that the cross hair style projection was showing up in some spots but not others. Basically, it looked like someone had taken an eraser and erratically erased bits and pieces of the "+" so the light was clearly on and trying to project but only in splotches. I had called this bird in from quite some distance so I turned my scope on when I knew he was approaching and the scope was completely normal when I checked it at that point but when he got to about 60 yds and I saw him and got my gun up on him, I saw that the dot was malfunctioning. Long story short, the bird kept coming into 35 yds or so as I was trying to tap the scope, turn it off and on etc.... before he decided something was off and started leaving. As, is my luck when he got just out of range, the scope started working properly again but the bird was gone and not coming back. This malfunction was off and on for the next day or so and I went ahead and contacted Mueller to send it back for a replacement.
Customer Service-
I got back to my office Monday morning and sent an email to their customer service box and had a response back within the hour telling me to send it back with the proof of purchase and they would replace it, no questions asked. I explained what happened and while they said this was extremely rare, they had heard of it before and apologized for it. This was still during turkey season and they had a new scope in my mail box by Wednesday even though I'm sure they didnt receive my return until later that week. They never saw a picture or the actual scope I was returning but took me at my word and replaced it, no questions asked.
I dont remember the last time that I've had such quality customer service from any product and, as most of you probably realize, this is one thing that is hard to find these days.
Overall:
I would 100% buy another scope from them because I believe the product is quality and more than that, they are willing to make it right with their customers. Their return policy doesnt guarantee the kind of fast service they provided me and although my season was almost over by the time I needed the replacement, they didnt know this but made sure to get one back to me within 48 hours so that I would have been able to hunt the next weekend.
I hope this helps.
Mine functioned with out problem.
The auto was not bright enough for me at first light, so I used 4, but that was personal preference.
I bought this thinking I would use the CQB reticle, but found it a little small while hunting and used the bigger dot when I killed my turkeys, and if I use it next year I'll try the smallest dot.
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Well I'm going to retype this to be fair on what I previously said. I'm glad they fixed it for you that quickly. I am sorry that sight cost you a bird though. That sucks. But in all fairness things do happen. And as long as it never does it again, or ever fails you again then I guess that will be well enough. But if I ever had a scope fail me more than once, it would be gone in a second. I have yet to have a scope fail me.
I have 2 of these sights, 1 on an 935 Mossy and 1 on a 20 gauge Remington 870. Had both for several years with hundreds of rounds shot through both guns with no problems.
Well I like the Mueller a lot but I also had a problem with mine this past season. I was late getting it zeroed partly due to bad weather but I should have started earlier in the year.
After I thought I had it close to zeroed I went to the range a second time and found the zero way off. Made more adjustments and found I couldn't get it right. Suddenly the POI would be way out. I was shooting a new Mossy 835 previously untested and I wasn't sure if I was dealing with a choke, barrel, load or sight problem, but suspected the sight since it was always changing.
The other thing that I noticed on the sight was the elevation screw turned freely with no clicks or noticable detent which was different than the windage screw. This was just a few days before the start of the hunting season.
I contacted Mueller service and they suggested I return the sight for service or replacement. Their service was quick and they replaced the sight in about a week turnaround without any charge. I agree with Redleg06 their service is very good.
The worst part of this was it was during part of the turkey hunting season and the other is I shot more very expensive TSS shot at paper than the cost of the sight itself.
But the new Mueller seems to hold zero and as I stated earlier I like the sight a lot. I'm hoping I won't have any more issues.
Dave.
mine did like it's supposed to do. :z-guntootsmiley: :z-guntootsmiley:
Mine worked flawlessly. It was a bit dim in early AM light on auto brightness. Held zero great even though I put it through some really tough conditions.
Mine this year allowed me to fill my two tags with limited vision on my right eye so I have to shoot right handed and aim with my left eye. It really surprised me on how quick I was able to get on the second bird that was just lifting off after a good long run. Happy with it and it is allowing me to hunt seriously again. Oh and do not forget the loctite as I did on the first testing it makes a big difference!
Do you guys loctite the site down, or just the bases?
For me just the base, two birds down and a sight in before the hunt and all is well so far.
I enjoyed mine for the brief time I had it on my 535.
I'm seriously thinking about one for the 835, but don't want a weaver base. Is there any other base that works with the Mueller?
Check the Mossberg website as they used to have rails that should work.
Quote from: mossy835 on November 27, 2011, 01:50:12 AM
Check the Mossberg website as they used to have rails that should work.
Thanks Mossy! :icon_thumright:
I'll check it out!
I used mine all last season and only had one problem...The turkeys avoided me! :angry9:
The Mueller worked just fine. I shot the gun several times during the season and the sight was still dead on.
I found the auto setting was too bright for me at first light, and actually too bright most of the time. I just used the manual all year.
The saddle mount worked well but I am considering having it drilled and tapped to get the sight down on the receiver.
mine worked great all season, could not be happier with it.
my only complaint about it is it could be a tad more low to the rail, i had to get a cheek riser to get my face up enough to see it but over all for the price i believe it to be the best there is. Burris FF2 is prob a better option but for $100 more i will keep shooting the Mueller.
Quote from: redleg06 on June 12, 2011, 08:36:00 AM
I loved mine for the first 4 gobblers, then as number 5 was walking into range my reticle failed me (showed up in pieces - not a battery failure and hard to explain but it was a failure).
Called and emailed customer service and they were great. Had a brand new scope to me at no cost or hassel within 2 days (in other words they sent me a new one without seeing mine that i was sending back).
if nothing else I would back their product based on customer service alone :z-winnersmiley:
The same thing happened to me as well with the rectical. I'm shootin a mossy 835 3-½" shells. I sent 2 back then wound up getting the Mx-1, because I believe it's able to withstand the recoil from the ol mossy. The customer service was great, very helpful. I would recomend the mx-1 good dourable red dot.
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Wanted to see if any more of you had opinions on this site after another season has kicked off.
I've taken 8 birds with my Mueller this season (in different states obviously) and it's performed flawlessly for me this year after the issue last year that I reported on earlier in this thread.
I got a remington youth 20 gauge that I'm going to get a red dot for and Im trying to decide if I should go with another Mueller or go ahead and step up to the plate and get the FF 3. Im happy with the Mueller and if I hadnt had an issue last year, I'd 100% jump all over another one but I wanted to see if my issue from last season is a persistent problem or if anyone else had additional opinions after more time in the field with their Mueller.
Quote from: redleg06 on April 10, 2012, 08:31:54 AM
Im trying to decide if I should go with another Mueller or go ahead and step up to the plate and get the FF 3.
You know the answer to this. :drool:
Quote from: redleg06 on April 10, 2012, 08:31:54 AM
Wanted to see if any more of you had opinions on this site after another season has kicked off.
This is my first year with the Mueller Quick Shot and I am happy with it. I have had no problems with it other than going with the manual setting at first light, then switching over to Automatic once the sun has come up. Has held up very well to the recoil of the 870 20 gauge.
Cheers :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
FullChoke
Sighted mine in on Sunday, and am very happy with it. So far, so good.
Closing on its third season on a 10 gauge pardner, Handloading and testing from
day one. NO PROBLEMS.
I'm on my second season with mine with no problems other than what has been mentioned re the auto setting. Mine is on a 1300 with a weaver base and is a mite high so I used a piece of foam pipe insulation under my butt shell holder and it works as well as a store bought cheek riser. I'm reading this section trying to decide on an option for my new 20 gauge 870 project. I'm weighing the price difference in the Meuller verses a speed bead low to the gun style.
Second year with my Mueller. On an SBE1 , running 3 1/2" Hevi's. Have it on a saddle mount, so its a little high for my real liking. Killed three with it last year, well actually two. Battery went out just before fly down on the last bird. I always carry an extra. A quick change out.... and that one was dead too. Both were the batteries that came with it. Damn china batteries. Bird came strutting in. You know that little space below the saddle...I can still see my front bead. Gun shoots about 6 inches low, but I know it. Rolled him.
Because of the battery issue I turn it on just at shoot time. Have an extra "good" battery in the turkey vest. And turn the battery over if I won't be hunting for a week or more.
If your mount has space under the mount, sand bag the gun- Look to see POI with the dot. Check point of aim under mount looking at the front bead... it may save a hunt.
Second season for me and it worked fine just like last season except I got smarter or the turkeys got dumber and I got one.
I put a fresh battery in every season and never had a problem. I leave it on five or six hours straight every time I hunt.
I probably would not have killed a turkey with out the Mueller as the turkey walked in behind me and I had to fall back from the tree I was leaning against, rolled up on my left shoulder and shot the turkey with the shotgun turned 90 degrees.
Thank you Mueller.
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i have a nikon red dot i bought this year from natchez shooting supply it seems to hold tru after shooting .