Seriously thinking about getting one. The more I travel out west and having a messed up foot/ankle I keep thinking it's a good idea. After doing some research I understand that these are legally classified as bicycles in more states than not and if it's open to bicycle travel in such a state then an ebike is a legal form of travel.
I've never wanted one, but I've still got decent legs and feet at this point and most the areas I hunt they wouldn't do me a whole lot of good anyhow. Think they'd be a tremendous advantage in the case you're describing, though. If it gets you where you need to be and you'd have had trouble or caused more damage to yourself on account of the foot and ankle I'd say it's definitely worth it. The whole work smarter, not harder mentality and as we age we better adopt hell out of that if we want to keep doing what we're doing.
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50+ lbs. Drivetrain is suspect all the time. If your on old road,fire trails,maybe a cow pasture etc. they are worth while but so is a regular bike. Bike shop I buy from told me they carry Quiet Kat because a customer had a Rambo bike and Rambo wouldn't help them fix the problem but Quite Kat did. Shop only sold Trek at the time.I don't own a ebike but have no problem on my fat bike when I use it in the previously mentioned manner.
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Quote from: Gooserbat on February 27, 2022, 04:07:26 AM
Seriously thinking about getting one. The more I travel out west and having a messed up foot/ankle I keep thinking it's a good idea. After doing some research I understand that these are legally classified as bicycles in more states than not and if it's open to bicycle travel in such a state then an ebike is a legal form of travel.
NJ allows 750 watt or less E-bikes on WMA's and State hunting land. Weird rule, I thought watts only determine how long a charge you get?
Watts is the output of the motor. Can give more power and distance the higher the watts. And personally I am against them without a handicapped permit. And being fat and out of shape doesn't count as handicapped.
My wife and I both have ebikes and we ride them regularly. I don't use mine for hunting, but it definitely would give you easier access in some places. Due to their weight, they can sometimes be a problem in rough terrain, especially mud or sand. Fat tire bikes handle it better than road tires, but it can still be tricky.
There are 3 different classifications of ebikes based on top end speed and whether or not the bike has a throttle in addition to pedal assist. Some places use these classification to determine which bikes are allowed and usually if there is a restriction, it is limited to class 1 or 2 only. PM me if you need/want any other info.
I talked to an Iowa game warden about the time I saw an ebike rider come up a 2-track into the parking lot. I asked if a ticket would be written. He said no, he thought it was ok. I was really surprised.
Rules and regulations vary by state and both federal and game and fish agencies. Just because it may not be classified as a motorized vehicle by state law, does not mean it is legal to use on public lands in that state. Pay very close attention to regulations. More agencies are starting to put restrictions on them as they become more popular. For example, here is the USFS's current stance:
https://www.fs.usda.gov/visit/e-bikes
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 27, 2022, 04:07:26 AM
Seriously thinking about getting one. The more I travel out west and having a messed up foot/ankle I keep thinking it's a good idea. After doing some research I understand that these are legally classified as bicycles in more states than not and if it's open to bicycle travel in such a state then an ebike is a legal form of travel.
One of the top manufacturers (either Quietkat, Rambo or Backou) had a useful link to all the states and their current regs on eBikes. And noted, that they are easing up restrictions on them.
I've tested my buddies Rad Rover 5, 750W rear hub motor bike, it was awesome but left a little to desire. After researching and reading reviews, I believe a guy should spend a little more and get a mid drive motor, especially for out west where we have mountains and that's what you're wanting them for.
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on February 27, 2022, 09:10:43 AM
Rules and regulations vary by state and both federal and game and fish agencies. Just because it may not be classified as a motorized vehicle by state law, does not mean it is legal to use on public lands in that state. Pay very close attention to regulations. More agencies are starting to put restrictions on them as they become more popular. For example, here is the USFS's current stance:
https://www.fs.usda.gov/visit/e-bikes
This...
^ I think as time goes by, the use of e-bikes is probably going to get more restrictive on public lands except in certain, regulated areas. I have thought about looking into them myself, but I am hesitant because when I look at it from the hunting standpoint, I think the limitations override the benefits.
However, if I had mobility problems, I would certainly evaluate getting one more seriously. I would research their use fully before making any decisions about it. They are not an inexpensive investment, for sure.
You can't use them behind gates on national forests/federal ground. I don't see much use for them on public lands at this time.
I do have one .....it's a high torque mid drive model and is very nice / powerful. It's definitely a time saver getting around
If it's legal, use it where it is needed. The older and more beat up I get, the lighter my gear gets and the more ergonomic too. I do not use one as I am mostly hunting in the woods. But if the need arises then I will get one to get to any hunting spot available
Hi have one it's a himiway and love it I can travel a lot on a full charge here in South Florida chasing Osceola
I thought they were classified as motored vechicles based on the watts? Either way I would have one if I could use them on the public land where I hunt.
If you want ebike, get you one... if it helps you enjoy turkey hunting. I feel your smart enough to know or find out if you can use it in certain area's.. Life is way to short... get you ebike ...
I spoke with a guy in Florida about his, he has used his for a couple years. It was a Rad bike I believe.
He used it on the roads throughout the club we were on and said it did well in the sand and tried going around the three foot deep mud puddles. He could cover a lot of ground but one battery did not last all day. He was lucky and by mistake had an extra battery. He also commented on game not being scared of the bike as a vehicle or ATV.
I have checked into them as I have a couple places "private" that would be great for the ebike. At least in my mind a better option the an ATV or UTV. It drives me nuts to hear the guys riding around half the morning on ATV's or while your hunting out an old road they drive up on you on the ATV's.
They are not cheap, some of the lesser names run around 2k with a Rambo I just looked at around 5-7K. So really not something you want just setting in the building to use 2-3 times a year IMO. At least not on my budget.
I hear in WV they are not enforcing the use of on NF. But, all signs in the NF say "No motorized vehicles beyond this point" so not sure about these areas. I personally have not talked to any of the local wardens regarding the subject.
What would be a good bike / brand for steeper grades ?
Anyone have experience?
E Bikes will ruin all the formely "walk in" areas. They are MOTORIZED vehicles that have no business on foot trails in NF or public lands. Lazy lazy lazy.
Joey, I 100% agree with your statement.
Something to think about.
About 15 years ago there was a timber operation on a piece of NF in Virginia I was hunting. It had the gate in the middle of the property locked. This put all of the men in half the normal area,"IT WAS PACKED"! So, I went to Wally world and bought a $169 Schwinn bike. Worked great, I peddled in, and smoked a nice gobbler.
Two weeks later I decided to make a big hunt in WV if NF. I parked my bike over the hill across from a fire trail coming off the mountain. I went up the road 3-4 miles and started in on a forest raid with the anticipation of hunting through to my bike and riding back to my truck. While in in my hunt a guy came in and we talked. I left the area, "went deeper" and came out beyond my bike by 3-4 miles.
Luckily for me, two guys from PA picked me up to give me a ride to my truck. When we past where I had hid my bike I could t see it. I did hide it.
When I returned, it was obvious I did not hide it well enough and should have used a lock around a tree.
$169 made me mad for many years. Couldn't imagine if it were 3, 4, 5+ thousand dollars. Use a good lock! Hide the bike! Someone will steal it.
I have a Bakcou Mule 750 with mid size battery and a Bakcou Flatlander. Mule is an awesome bike...Flatlander is ok. I own an L shaped 550 acres surrounded by several thousand acres of National Forest. I use mine to get to birds which are gobbling a mile or more away. I do lots of walking, but the bike is a great tool when needed. I am almost 72 and I will probably transition to an electric side by side within a few years. My two 15 year old grandson are pushing for that now.
Quote from: joey46 on February 27, 2022, 06:14:05 PM
E Bikes will ruin all the formely "walk in" areas. They are MOTORIZED vehicles that have no business on foot trails in NF or public lands. Lazy lazy lazy.
This this and this!!! They have already ruined a few small areas that I hunt in AR. Anyone other than someone who gets a handicap pass or disabled vets should be ashamed to utilize one IMO.
Quote from: Spurs on February 27, 2022, 08:20:06 PM
Quote from: joey46 on February 27, 2022, 06:14:05 PM
E Bikes will ruin all the formely "walk in" areas. They are MOTORIZED vehicles that have no business on foot trails in NF or public lands. Lazy lazy lazy.
This this and this!!! They have already ruined a few small areas that I hunt in AR. Anyone other than someone who gets a handicap pass or disabled vets should be ashamed to utilize one IMO.
I'm with this all the way! Whats next allowing electric cars to drive around on public ground.
My wife bought one last summer after seeing our neighbor's. I found myself riding hers more than she was so I bought me one. They are fun to ride & great for older folks like me & my wife. To my surprise they are a lot of younger folks riding them. I haven't used mine for hunting but if you do be sure & get you an alarm & some type of locking device to help keep trashbags from stealing it. I understand people's concerns about it ruining turkey hunting & it may have some negative affects on it but it hadn't been that long ago we all thought decoys, fanning & such was gonna ruin it.
I can't imagine leaving a $5000 item on public land and running off the chase a turkey hoping to get back to it hours later.
I also think they are illegal in more places than people think.
There are a few niche places where they are legal, they would work well, and after having a really long day of hiking I certainly thought boy that would come in handy.
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I've had a Felt Outfitter for a few years. It's 750 watt. 4" fat tires., You pedal it assists. You stop pedaling , it coasts. 5 levels. The higher assist, the faster the battery runs down. This is the type that is considered non motorized, and allowed on most biking areas. Except those specifically designated typically. I have a few friends that have the same model. They aren't turkey hunters. Mostly elk and Chukar partridge. They are great for driving down sandy beaches to access duck marshes.
We don't road hunt with them. They allow us to go further to start a hunt and separate from a crowd. Sometimes 6 miles in before starting. They help w hauling out elk too.
I don't understand the negative thoughts to them. I don't believe they are different than a regular bicycle. Awesome for anyone, but especially for people getting older. They are growing hugely out west.
These help reduce over crowded areas JMO
I bought an M2S bike back in august and used it all fall deer hunting here in AR. Best investment I've made in years... I'll be using it this spring for turkeys as well. I carry a good lock, and the motor on the bike is locked by a 4 digit code. If you dont know the code it won't turn on, and you're not going to push an ebike very far...
Quote from: joey46 on February 27, 2022, 06:14:05 PM
E Bikes will ruin all the formely "walk in" areas. They are MOTORIZED vehicles that have no business on foot trails in NF or public lands. Lazy lazy lazy.
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I have a Rambo and love it. I use it some , mostly on private . Its quieter than a 4 wheeler or atv 10fold. It does not spook game and if you dont pass someone, they dont even know you are there, but most of the time I dont like the hassel of dealing with unloading if , having to lock it to a tree and other small things. So Imostly walk. I do like having it if I come across places that I want to scout that is several miles back . I like the fact that I have a option at times if I choose it. Its nice sometimes when you are running late and need to make up time. Some haters gonna hate mainly because they dont have it in their budget to own one or dont really want to spend the money on a un needed piece of equiptment. Some feel its just not fair to ride one when they have to walk. As far as foot travel only , sad part is , we ALL own federal land through taxes. If you are using something that tears up trails , disturbs game or other people , is noisy and interferes with others hunts , then yes , they should not be allowed. A ebike does none of the above. If they are legal and you choose not to use one , that is your choice. In reality they are not much different than a mountain bike. It boils down to some people think its not fair but life aint fair. Ride your bike , walk , run or do whatever you want to do. In the end , just be happy we are still able to hunt and enjoy Gods creations. Let the haters pile on.
And to the guys who say lazy lazy lazy , kind of generalizing things huh? I can walk plenty but not like when I was 18. Years of jumping out of airplanes and humping 120 pound Ranger rucks kindsa catches up to you. As far as ruining turkey hunting. All I can do is laugh. Turkey hunting went down when people started using decoys and fans. Reminds me when old recurve bowhunters said the compound bow was ruining bowhunting. Compound bowhunters say the same about crossbows. Muzzle loader hunters said that when in line muzzle loaders came on the scene, that was ruining the sport. Face it guys , life is all about change and if you live long enough , you will realize NOTHING is forever and a constant state of change will continue after we are all dead and gone. Sorry for the long winded reply.
I agree with Spittin & Drummen completely on this. I took the plunge and bought a mid drive ebike from a guy close to me that builds his own to your specs. I didn't get it until early November and put around 40 miles on it around home at some places I hunt. I think some people are confused in thinking that you jump on them and hit the throttle and zoom off into the wilderness up and down mountains for miles on end with no physical effort line riding a dirt bike. This is not at all true from my experience, trying them out and researching a lot of different companies and models. Yes, depending on the make, model, type of drive and battery, the range they will travel varies, but they don't go and go forever. Don't forget though...you are still riding a bike, not a plush side by side or ATV. A bike that beats the snot out of you and your joints over rough terrain and almost all of them require you to peddle to use the battery assistance. I know there are a few that don't. One thing I like about mine is that I can reach down and turn off the battery and peddle it o natural with a standard mountain bikes 18 speeds and derailer if I'm in an area that doesn't allow Ebikes.
I think a big part is also like many things in life, how the user uses it. If you use common sense and etiquette to other hunters, i just have a hard time seeing where someone using one is going to ruin public hunting. It's a tool that if you so choose can help you enjoy the outdoors more like so many other tools that we as hunters use everyday. But that's just my take on it, and that sure don't mean much. And one things for sure, I can't wait to use mine this turkey season!!!!
I'll stick to my hover board for now ...
This could almost be a companion thread to the "Public Land Parking Area" thread. I'll repeat - my 2022 philosophy is if I'm FIRST on a walk in trail and get passed by an e bike or pre-dawn jogger I'll keep going exactly where I intended and if we all end up in close proximity then "there you go". I just applied for a quota hunt on an area (leave unnamed) that for the last 25 years or so has closed some interior roads to allow for quiet walk in access. I have not been there for a while and don't know if they have opened them to the e bikers. I wouldn't have bothered to apply if they have.
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 27, 2022, 11:03:46 PM
I have a Rambo and love it. I use it some , mostly on private . Its quieter than a 4 wheeler or atv 10fold. It does not spook game and if you dont pass someone, they dont even know you are there, but most of the time I dont like the hassel of dealing with unloading if , having to lock it to a tree and other small things. So Imostly walk. I do like having it if I come across places that I want to scout that is several miles back . I like the fact that I have a option at times if I choose it. Its nice sometimes when you are running late and need to make up time. Some haters gonna hate mainly because they dont have it in their budget to own one or dont really want to spend the money on a un needed piece of equiptment. Some feel its just not fair to ride one when they have to walk. As far as foot travel only , sad part is , we ALL own federal land through taxes. If you are using something that tears up trails , disturbs game or other people , is noisy and interferes with others hunts , then yes , they should not be allowed. A ebike does none of the above. If they are legal and you choose not to use one , that is your choice. In reality they are not much different than a mountain bike. It boils down to some people think its not fair but life aint fair. Ride your bike , walk , run or do whatever you want to do. In the end , just be happy we are still able to hunt and enjoy Gods creations. Let the haters pile on.
And to the guys who say lazy lazy lazy , kind of generalizing things huh? I can walk plenty but not like when I was 18. Years of jumping out of airplanes and humping 120 pound Ranger rucks kindsa catches up to you. As far as ruining turkey hunting. All I can do is laugh. Turkey hunting went down when people started using decoys and fans. Reminds me when old recurve bowhunters said the compound bow was ruining bowhunting. Compound bowhunters say the same about crossbows. Muzzle loader hunters said that when in line muzzle loaders came on the scene, that was ruining the sport. Face it guys , life is all about change and if you live long enough , you will realize NOTHING is forever and a constant state of change will continue after we are all dead and gone. Sorry for the long winded reply.
Its a motorized vehicle plain and simple. If an ebike is allowed why wouldn't an electric utility vehicle be allowed.
It'll very state to state and even area to area in that state. The bikes are def motorized. That'd make them illegal in lots places. If it only included combustible type gas motors that'd be ok but why not talk to some of the states you plan on using it to see what regulations regarding it are
If I am walking, riding a mountain bike or e bike, I don't hunt were anyone has parked before my arrival. These are ethics that we buy into or don't.
Bikes don't even come into that equation. How someone approaches their hunt is up to them. As long as they are following the regulations.
Can someone please identify the problems that you are actually having with the ebike use? As opposed to "regular " bikes. Do they tear up the trails. I understand if a particular WMA is small and not feasible for more than foot traffic.
Where's the beef??
Quote from: Hook hanger on February 28, 2022, 10:17:49 AM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 27, 2022, 11:03:46 PM
I have a Rambo and love it. I use it some , mostly on private . Its quieter than a 4 wheeler or atv 10fold. It does not spook game and if you dont pass someone, they dont even know you are there, but most of the time I dont like the hassel of dealing with unloading if , having to lock it to a tree and other small things. So Imostly walk. I do like having it if I come across places that I want to scout that is several miles back . I like the fact that I have a option at times if I choose it. Its nice sometimes when you are running late and need to make up time. Some haters gonna hate mainly because they dont have it in their budget to own one or dont really want to spend the money on a un needed piece of equiptment. Some feel its just not fair to ride one when they have to walk. As far as foot travel only , sad part is , we ALL own federal land through taxes. If you are using something that tears up trails , disturbs game or other people , is noisy and interferes with others hunts , then yes , they should not be allowed. A ebike does none of the above. If they are legal and you choose not to use one , that is your choice. In reality they are not much different than a mountain bike. It boils down to some people think its not fair but life aint fair. Ride your bike , walk , run or do whatever you want to do. In the end , just be happy we are still able to hunt and enjoy Gods creations. Let the haters pile on.
And to the guys who say lazy lazy lazy , kind of generalizing things huh? I can walk plenty but not like when I was 18. Years of jumping out of airplanes and humping 120 pound Ranger rucks kindsa catches up to you. As far as ruining turkey hunting. All I can do is laugh. Turkey hunting went down when people started using decoys and fans. Reminds me when old recurve bowhunters said the compound bow was ruining bowhunting. Compound bowhunters say the same about crossbows. Muzzle loader hunters said that when in line muzzle loaders came on the scene, that was ruining the sport. Face it guys , life is all about change and if you live long enough , you will realize NOTHING is forever and a constant state of change will continue after we are all dead and gone. Sorry for the long winded reply.
Its a motorized vehicle plain and simple. If an ebike is allowed why wouldn't an electric utility vehicle be allowed.
Did you miss the part of my post about if its Legal
Quote from: strut on February 28, 2022, 10:40:22 AM
If I am walking, riding a mountain bike or e bike, I don't hunt were anyone has parked before my arrival. These are ethics that we buy into or don't.
Bikes don't even come into that equation. How someone approaches their hunt is up to them. As long as they are following the regulations.
Can someone please identify the problems that you are actually having with the ebike use? As opposed to "regular " bikes. Do they tear up the trails. I understand if a particular WMA is small and not feasible for more than foot traffic.
Where's the beef??
Exactly. There are always folks that will find reasons to complain. Most that dont like them have never even been around one. As far as parking behind someone and going in behind them , well thats just a b---h move and has nothing to do with a bike. I said it once and will say it again. Most of the haters would take a ebike if someone gave it to them and would use it. In my opinion , most of the haters cannot afford one or chooses not to budget for one. Jealousy is a bad human trait.
If I could I would get one but with the tailbone, shoulders, back and other things I could not even ride a motorized bike anymore. I think they are good for those that are no longer able to walk in far or ride a peddle bike. Sure wish I could still ride a peddle bike, used to ride all the time.
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 27, 2022, 11:03:46 PM
I have a Rambo and love it. I use it some , mostly on private . Its quieter than a 4 wheeler or atv 10fold. It does not spook game and if you dont pass someone, they dont even know you are there, but most of the time I dont like the hassel of dealing with unloading if , having to lock it to a tree and other small things. So Imostly walk. I do like having it if I come across places that I want to scout that is several miles back . I like the fact that I have a option at times if I choose it. Its nice sometimes when you are running late and need to make up time. Some haters gonna hate mainly because they dont have it in their budget to own one or dont really want to spend the money on a un needed piece of equiptment. Some feel its just not fair to ride one when they have to walk. As far as foot travel only , sad part is , we ALL own federal land through taxes. If you are using something that tears up trails , disturbs game or other people , is noisy and interferes with others hunts , then yes , they should not be allowed. A ebike does none of the above. If they are legal and you choose not to use one , that is your choice. In reality they are not much different than a mountain bike. It boils down to some people think its not fair but life aint fair. Ride your bike , walk , run or do whatever you want to do. In the end , just be happy we are still able to hunt and enjoy Gods creations. Let the haters pile on.
And to the guys who say lazy lazy lazy , kind of generalizing things huh? I can walk plenty but not like when I was 18. Years of jumping out of airplanes and humping 120 pound Ranger rucks kindsa catches up to you. As far as ruining turkey hunting. All I can do is laugh. Turkey hunting went down when people started using decoys and fans. Reminds me when old recurve bowhunters said the compound bow was ruining bowhunting. Compound bowhunters say the same about crossbows. Muzzle loader hunters said that when in line muzzle loaders came on the scene, that was ruining the sport. Face it guys , life is all about change and if you live long enough , you will realize NOTHING is forever and a constant state of change will continue after we are all dead and gone. Sorry for the long winded reply.
Spitten and Drummen great post. As I am now in my 70's and approaching expiration date I have thought about the option of using an e-bike. The area I hunt is large, 45000 acres but only has limited access points so it would be used to get far away from the gates. The two factors that have stopped me are, one, not knowing which one would be a good trail option, two, the cost which actually goes back to the first point, in that I would hate to spend several thousand dollars to find I got the wrong one.
I have no problem with folks using ebikes, and especially those individuals who are somehow limited in their ability to walk or hike due to injury or age. Obviously, their use on private property is strictly up to those controlling that property, so that is a moot point. To me, the real issue is whether they will continue to be legal to use for things like hunting access on public lands as time goes by. As has been stated, they are already illegal on some public lands, and as they become more popular, I have no doubt they will be outlawed, or at least more regulated, in more and more places and applications.
The law of diminishing returns will probably apply as well. There are only so many places where using an ebike is practical, as well as being an advantage. As more and more folks realize and utilize that advantage, shear numbers of people using them will offset their value. Of course, there is also the possibility that their use will eventually be restricted to mobility-impaired folks as time goes by.
We all have different opinions. I agree with a few and don't think any motorized transportation of any sort should be legal for use on public roads with gates, dirt dams, or are designated foot travel only. It defeats then purpose of a road being limited access. The exception should be for handicap on handicap access roads only. Main roads, I have no problem along with ATV and Side By Sides. Would be useful on private land.
Quote from: NCL on March 01, 2022, 11:42:29 AM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 27, 2022, 11:03:46 PM
I have a Rambo and love it. I use it some , mostly on private . Its quieter than a 4 wheeler or atv 10fold. It does not spook game and if you dont pass someone, they dont even know you are there, but most of the time I dont like the hassel of dealing with unloading if , having to lock it to a tree and other small things. So Imostly walk. I do like having it if I come across places that I want to scout that is several miles back . I like the fact that I have a option at times if I choose it. Its nice sometimes when you are running late and need to make up time. Some haters gonna hate mainly because they dont have it in their budget to own one or dont really want to spend the money on a un needed piece of equiptment. Some feel its just not fair to ride one when they have to walk. As far as foot travel only , sad part is , we ALL own federal land through taxes. If you are using something that tears up trails , disturbs game or other people , is noisy and interferes with others hunts , then yes , they should not be allowed. A ebike does none of the above. If they are legal and you choose not to use one , that is your choice. In reality they are not much different than a mountain bike. It boils down to some people think its not fair but life aint fair. Ride your bike , walk , run or do whatever you want to do. In the end , just be happy we are still able to hunt and enjoy Gods creations. Let the haters pile on.
And to the guys who say lazy lazy lazy , kind of generalizing things huh? I can walk plenty but not like when I was 18. Years of jumping out of airplanes and humping 120 pound Ranger rucks kindsa catches up to you. As far as ruining turkey hunting. All I can do is laugh. Turkey hunting went down when people started using decoys and fans. Reminds me when old recurve bowhunters said the compound bow was ruining bowhunting. Compound bowhunters say the same about crossbows. Muzzle loader hunters said that when in line muzzle loaders came on the scene, that was ruining the sport. Face it guys , life is all about change and if you live long enough , you will realize NOTHING is forever and a constant state of change will continue after we are all dead and gone. Sorry for the long winded reply.
Spitten and Drummen great post. As I am now in my 70's and approaching expiration date I have thought about the option of using an e-bike. The area I hunt is large, 45000 acres but only has limited access points so it would be used to get far away from the gates. The two factors that have stopped me are, one, not knowing which one would be a good trail option, two, the cost which actually goes back to the first point, in that I would hate to spend several thousand dollars to find I got the wrong one.
I do have a e- bike I have a M2S both me and the wife got them for just plan riding. I am 66 now and got my bike a few year ago just for normal past time riding and maybe hunting. The reason we both got them was for pleasure riding and for on extra long rides if we got too tired we wanted a little extra help getting back home. I have used mine for hunting in SOME places. I do have a big one with 4 1/2 inch tires. The only thing I would change is what ever brand or model you get it should be a step through model (or girls bike). The reason is unless you are real good on bikes(I wasn't bad when I was young not young any more) you can have problem on hills. It would be much easer to just put your foot out when you get into trouble or run into a log. In just in the past two year that bike feel like it grew three feet taller and it's a long ways down when you tip over.
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