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Title: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: davisd9 on February 24, 2022, 05:55:59 PM
Here you go. Cut down by Steve and call maker themselves, lol.

https://store.themeateater.com/products/line-1-turkey-call?utm_campaign=Shop+MeatEater+Merchandise&utm_medium=&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1yt1oz4lA_glYoR7cMZPvCpIG4MUNsP4JqX5S49ZnnCGY3mNhcyd_aiEc
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Happy on February 24, 2022, 05:58:50 PM
I am buying a dozen.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Cut N Run on February 24, 2022, 06:11:06 PM
 A $300.00 pot call?  Seriously?!?  A fool and his money, I guess.

Jim
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: BBR12 on February 24, 2022, 06:16:16 PM
I hope it sounds way better than his calling does!!!
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: GobbleNut on February 24, 2022, 06:18:04 PM
Quote from: Happy on February 24, 2022, 05:58:50 PM
I am buying a dozen.

I suspect that will probably be about 90% of all of them sold at that price.   ;D
Title: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on February 24, 2022, 06:28:19 PM
They'll sell out and have a quick appreciation the same way those crazy priced boning knives did. I forget what those went for, maybe $350 or $400, and when they were gone there were people buying them on eBay for over a grand. People are just plain dumb.


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Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Happy on February 24, 2022, 06:28:40 PM
maybe Gobblenut. There are some serious man worshipers out there these days so I won't be surprised if they sell out.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Gmed on February 24, 2022, 07:12:47 PM
At that price, it better come with the pluck feature, the deep fry feature, and service setting.....
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: MISSISSIPPI Double beard on February 24, 2022, 07:15:23 PM
Probably made in china
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: GobbleGitr on February 24, 2022, 07:53:02 PM
To each their own, but that has much more of a marketing vibe than anything else to me
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: lacire on February 24, 2022, 07:54:25 PM
Small print

Designer: Jason Phelps, Steven Rinella
Sourcing/Production: Made In the USA  :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an

Black Walnut Body - Uniontown, Kansas
Orange Osage Striker - Uniontown, Kansas
Crystal Playing Surface - Illinois
Slate Sound Board - West Virginia
1,400 produced

1400 x 300 = $420,000.00 ........  :lol:
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: lacire on February 24, 2022, 08:00:55 PM
$299.00 that's more then the new Sitka turkey vest.......... :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on February 24, 2022, 08:47:33 PM
A couple months ago the board must've fallen asleep or everyone was broke from holidays or I don't know what, but I got two Brad Roberts pots for half what they want for that call. Let that sink in: TWO Brad Roberts calls and if I were spending the $300 they want for that I'd have had enough left over to get a new yelper from [mention]gergg [/mention]as well!


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Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: dzsmith on February 24, 2022, 09:46:58 PM
If Steve rinella was selling a pound of gold for 50 bucks I wouldn't buy it .
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: camotoe on February 26, 2022, 07:24:29 PM
He did a podcast where him and Phelps went and cut the tree down and that is the tree these are all made from . Something about if you bought a call they where doing a drawing to go
Turkey hunt on the property the tree was cut down from and you could go see the stump your call was from . 


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Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: AppalachianHollers on February 26, 2022, 08:10:10 PM
Quote from: camotoe on February 26, 2022, 07:24:29 PM
He did a podcast where him and Phelps went and cut the tree down and that is the tree these are all made from . Something about if you bought a call they where doing a drawing to go
Turkey hunt on the property the tree was cut down from and you could go see the stump your call was from . 


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For an extra $1,000 I'd expect they'll let you take a whizz on the stump. Just so you could be a part of it...


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Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: compton30 on February 26, 2022, 08:57:24 PM
I saw the call on IG after listening to the podcast. I couldn't believe the price. They're not even all turned out by Phelps, not that I've ever heard one of his calls run. I graduated HS with one of the guys on their crew so I was always a supporter of theirs but now it just seems like a big money grab
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: deerhunt1988 on February 26, 2022, 10:23:18 PM
The price alone convinced me to listen to the podcast. I kept expecting them to say they were donating a portion of the sales to their "Land Access Initiative " in which they are helping fund access to more public lands. But sadly, that was never mentioned.  Looks like it's strictly for profit.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: quavers59 on February 27, 2022, 03:19:42 AM
 Why so expensive??!
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: compton30 on February 27, 2022, 04:02:17 AM
I'm being 100% dead serious and not a smart aleck. Does this Phelps guy even make high quality sounding calls? For 299 it better be world class
Title: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on February 27, 2022, 07:45:24 AM
Quote from: compton30 on February 27, 2022, 04:02:17 AM
I'm being 100% dead serious and not a smart aleck. Does this Phelps guy even make high quality sounding calls? For 299 it better be world class
I believe he started off as an elk call guy, moved into turkey diaphragms and then expanded. I'd bet the call is well made and I'd bet it sounds fine. As fine as any production pot. But you just flat lose me at a $300 price tag for kitsch. I could get four of the best pot calls being made for that. I mean would you rather have that one mediocre call in your vest or would you rather have a Buster Halford slate, a Clay Townsend glass, a Travis Wyatt ceramic, and a Darrin Dawkins aluminum? I know which way I'd go and I'd still have money left to buy another striker.


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Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Happy on February 27, 2022, 09:55:51 AM
I dunno. Hypothetically if I were to buy one and win the hunt I would prefer that I go out alone. Steve can stay at the house and make some supper. I have heard him call and I don't need that kind of help. And I probably wouldn't use that call to kill a turkey. He'd better make an impressive meal though.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Ranger on February 27, 2022, 10:05:19 AM
Happy you said a lot when you said there's a lot of man worshipping going on these days. Exactly. Perspective has been lost entirely by some folks. Stevie couldn't tote my Granddaddy's work boots
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: GobbleNut on February 27, 2022, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: compton30 on February 27, 2022, 04:02:17 AM
I'm being 100% dead serious and not a smart aleck. Does this Phelps guy even make high quality sounding calls? For 299 it better be world class

I don't know how gold turkey calls sound, but for me to buy one at that price, it would have to be made out of it...   :angel9:
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Zobo on February 27, 2022, 10:38:12 AM
Quote from: Happy on February 27, 2022, 09:55:51 AM
I dunno. Hypothetically if I were to buy one and win the hunt I would prefer that I go out alone. Steve can stay at the house and make some supper. I have heard him call and I don't need that kind of help. And I probably wouldn't use that call to kill a turkey. He'd better make an impressive meal though.



You better watch that meal, he fed a group undercooked bear meat and gave them all trichinosis. Chester is right, that call is very reminiscent of a production call at 4 times a custom pot price.  It screams gimmick/scam. I know we're in inflationary times but come on.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: GobbleNut on February 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Quote from: Happy on February 27, 2022, 09:55:51 AM
I dunno. Hypothetically if I were to buy one and win the hunt I would prefer that I go out alone. Steve can stay at the house and make some supper. I have heard him call and I don't need that kind of help. And I probably wouldn't use that call to kill a turkey. He'd better make an impressive meal though.

:TooFunny:  :toothy12: To be polite, I will give ol' Stevie the benefit of the doubt and say that, since he gets to hunt about every type of big game known to man, he probably doesn't focus much on turkey hunting or his calling ability. ...And it shows...  ;D :toothy9: :angel9:
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: El Pavo Grande on February 27, 2022, 11:02:28 AM
They will probably sell all 1,400 because of the current infatuation level with hunting "celebrities".   Some of these guys could market and sell a turd in a box and many would trip all over themselves to buy it. 
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: 30_06 on February 27, 2022, 11:24:57 AM
Why have there been so many comments about it being a production call? Only 1,400 have been made, what is the threshold for custom and production?

Esse quam videri

Title: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on February 27, 2022, 11:51:01 AM
Quote from: 30_06 on February 27, 2022, 11:24:57 AM
Why have there been so many comments about it being a production call? Only 1,400 have been made, what is the threshold for custom and production?

Esse quam videri
Ask Buster Halford how long it will take him to turn 1,400 pots. The answer to your question is quite simply one is coming out of a CNC machine and one is being turned and tuned by hand. That's not to say there aren't good production calls made. There are plenty and this may very well be one.


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Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: silvestris on February 27, 2022, 12:00:45 PM
I think I will stick with my Joe Mayeaux slate.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Ranger on February 27, 2022, 12:04:45 PM
There's cowboys like Silvestris that have calls with more kills on them than those 1400 will see this season
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: zelmo1 on February 27, 2022, 12:19:00 PM
I am quite certain that the calls are very good. But I will stick to my own calls that I sell for much much less. I like hand made and tuned calls. Good luck to them on their journey.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: 30_06 on February 27, 2022, 12:51:16 PM
Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on February 27, 2022, 11:51:01 AM
Quote from: 30_06 on February 27, 2022, 11:24:57 AM
Why have there been so many comments about it being a production call? Only 1,400 have been made, what is the threshold for custom and production?

Esse quam videri
Ask Buster Halford how long it will take him to turn 1,400 pots. The answer to your question is quite simply one is coming out of a CNC machine and one is being turned and tuned by hand. That's not to say there aren't good production calls made. There are plenty and this may very well be one.


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Ahh, machine vs. hand gotcha. Super helpful.

Esse quam videri

Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Yoder409 on February 27, 2022, 02:03:32 PM
Soooooo............  Maybe I live under a rock.........  But these Rinella and Phelps guys.........

Who the heck are they ???

Why should I want a call they made ??
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: paboxcall on February 27, 2022, 02:22:29 PM
Way better options for a CNC pot, and for a small fraction of the price.

Quote from: El Pavo Grande on February 27, 2022, 11:02:28 AM
They will probably sell all 1,400 because of the current infatuation level with hunting "celebrities".   Some of these guys could market and sell a turd in a box and many would trip all over themselves to buy it. 

Infatuation is right. Sums up today's "hoodie brigade."
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Zobo on February 27, 2022, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: 30_06 on February 27, 2022, 12:51:16 PM
Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on February 27, 2022, 11:51:01 AM
Quote from: 30_06 on February 27, 2022, 11:24:57 AM
Why have there been so many comments about it being a production call? Only 1,400 have been made, what is the threshold for custom and production?

Esse quam videri
Ask Buster Halford how long it will take him to turn 1,400 pots. The answer to your question is quite simply one is coming out of a CNC machine and one is being turned and tuned by hand. That's not to say there aren't good production calls made. There are plenty and this may very well be one.


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Ahh, machine vs. hand gotcha. Super helpful.

Esse quam videri



Your threshold question's a good one and in my opinion the cutoff should be at 100 units max. I mean how special can call #1267 be?  If you're going to serialize a run keep the number low or else split it up into smaller limited runs and change the product a bit.  I know Doug Camp had several signed low runs to 25, 50 and 100. I think those hit the mark to keep the products he offered more collectible worthy. Of course the thing needs to sound good too, that goes without saying. 1400 is waaaaay too many and further confirms our collective suspicions about this new offering.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: greencop01 on February 27, 2022, 08:30:33 PM
I'm a retired Env Police Sgt Mass. and am on a modest pension and $299 is out of my league. It's ridiculous and Steve Rinella lost my following.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: RiverBuck on February 27, 2022, 08:39:26 PM
He lost mine years ago.
Steve is a great example of how money can change a man.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Lucky Goose on February 27, 2022, 10:10:46 PM
I turned off meateater and stopped listening to the podcast 4 years ago.  I could see where it was going, but even I didn't see this coming.  Also, just lies about what a custom call maker is and what makes a true custom call.

Now they're preying on the naïve, and there's a lot of them following that bunch.  Watch... and I bet these calls will sell out quicker than you think.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Gobble! on February 27, 2022, 10:18:20 PM
Surprised they aren't offering a $1k trumpet or a $200 tube call.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: joey46 on February 28, 2022, 05:56:21 AM
Quote from: Gobble! on February 27, 2022, 10:18:20 PM
Surprised they aren't offering a $1k trumpet or a $200 tube call.

That "darn free market".  Don't want it don't buy it.  I still think MeatEater is one of the better produced outdoor shows.  Enjoy most of them.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: bigriverbum on February 28, 2022, 07:57:12 AM
Quote from: joey46 on February 28, 2022, 05:56:21 AM
Quote from: Gobble! on February 27, 2022, 10:18:20 PM
Surprised they aren't offering a $1k trumpet or a $200 tube call.

That "darn free market".  Don't want it don't buy it.  I still think MeatEater is one of the better produced outdoor shows.  Enjoy most of them.

yup. the obvious jealousy of many here is palpable. won't watch his show but spend 2 weeks on here whining about him lol.

steve's an very talented person, he just so happens to be a poor to middlin' turkey hunter.  who cares?
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: bigriverbum on February 28, 2022, 08:09:30 AM
Quote from: Ranger on February 27, 2022, 10:05:19 AM
Happy you said a lot when you said there's a lot of man worshipping going on these days. Exactly. Perspective has been lost entirely by some folks. Stevie couldn't tote my Granddaddy's work boots

have you seen steve chasing mountain goats or sheep in the mountains of alaska or british columbia? dude can put the work in. i think he'd carry your daddy's boots just fine

i don't think he does anything to put himself on a pedestal. if anything he takes every opportunity to highlight his faults. maybe some idiots idolize him? there's a lot of them in the world
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: camotoe on February 28, 2022, 08:21:54 AM
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Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on February 28, 2022, 08:34:36 AM
Quote from: bigriverbum on February 28, 2022, 08:09:30 AM
have you seen steve chasing mountain goats or sheep in the mountains of alaska or british columbia? dude can put the work in. i think he'd carry your daddy's boots just fine

i don't think he does anything to put himself on a pedestal. if anything he takes every opportunity to highlight his faults and foibles. it's not his fault if dumb people idolize him.

would it be easier to be a writer and get to travel the world on comp'ed hunts rather than work a 9 to 5 and have to use vacation for your hobbies? sure. but i'm not going to unjustly hate on someone because they found a way around it

a lot of people 'round here think a lot of people are snowflakes, but i think they need to look in the mirror
I've said all along, I think he's an incredibly talented hunter and I used to really enjoy his show when he was leading meaningful conversation. Still does on occasion and I still enjoy those, but for the most part the show and podcast have become a frat boy circle jerk jock fest with no substance and no weight. It's just not worth anything. Kind of like a $300 production pot call from a mediocre outfit sold solely on kitsch. That call is kind of the perfect metaphor.


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Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: GobbleNut on February 28, 2022, 08:40:11 AM
Quote from: bigriverbum on February 28, 2022, 08:09:30 AM
have you seen steve chasing mountain goats or sheep in the mountains of alaska or british columbia? dude can put the work in. i think he'd carry your daddy's boots just fine

i don't think he does anything to put himself on a pedestal. if anything he takes every opportunity to highlight his faults and foibles. it's not his fault if dumb people idolize him.

would it be easier to be a writer and get to travel the world on comp'ed hunts rather than work a 9 to 5 and have to use vacation for your hobbies? sure. but i'm not going to unjustly hate on someone because they found a way around it

a lot of people 'round here think a lot of people are snowflakes, but i think they need to look in the mirror

Actually, I agree with this.  He is an accomplished hunter who, for the most part, portrays hunting in a positive light and does so by producing excellent videos,...at least the ones I have seen.  He also seems to be a really good guy. However, in discussing this specific topic...that is, selling outlandishly-priced turkey calls because you are a recognized "overall" hunter...well, in my book you need to have some "street cred" as a turkey hunter when you try to do that. 

In terms of his general hunting skills, he is probably right up there at the top of the list.  Same can be said about the quality of his shows. However, any knowledgeable turkey hunter that has watched his episodes on turkey hunting will likely come away thinking that he is pretty average at it.  On the other hand, I have no doubt he could be a really good turkey hunter if he put his mind to it.  It is obviously just not a priority for him.

Bottom line for me is that, if you want to sell me a high-priced item in any field, you best demonstrate to me that you have some level of credibility in that field to  begin with.  As a turkey hunter, Rinella really hasn't got much when it comes to hawking expensive turkey calls.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: RiverBuck on February 28, 2022, 05:37:10 PM
I guess some on here don't have as big of issue with Steve selling out to a democratic gun grabbing group called The Chernin Group as me. Exploiting the hunting industry for profit isn't anything new but if your good then the money will come. Life isn't all about cash but taking what you built and handing the controlling stake of Meat Eater over to an Anti-Gun investment company isn't well thought out.

Steve is a excellent example of how cash can change a man in that his show doesn't have what it had in the beginning. If you can listen to his podcast it won't take long for him to dominate the conversation and step on who ever he's talking with to get his point across.

So... for those that do buy anything with the Meat Eater name on it, you are helping an anti-gun group finance their next move.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Zobo on February 28, 2022, 11:18:09 PM
     I'm not very familiar with Steve Rinella. I don't watch other people hunt and I'm not big into podcasts. I don't hate him or like him and I'm certainly not jealous of him.
      All I know about him is he sells game cookbooks, but once undercooked bear meat and seriously sickened his diners with trichinosis. And, he is selling what appears to be a production pot call for $300 with his name on it but not hand signed and serialized to 1400 units.
     My first blush opinion to younger hunters or people newer to buying and collecting calls is caveat emptor. Im just chiming in with an admittedly superficial opinion on it, from a guy who's bought way too many turkey calls through the years.

     
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: dzsmith on March 01, 2022, 12:05:58 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on February 27, 2022, 02:03:32 PM
Soooooo............  Maybe I live under a rock.........  But these Rinella and Phelps guys.........

Who the heck are they ???

Why should I want a call they made ??
you shouldn't....
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Yoder409 on March 01, 2022, 06:42:40 AM
Quote from: dzsmith on March 01, 2022, 12:05:58 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on February 27, 2022, 02:03:32 PM
Soooooo............  Maybe I live under a rock.........  But these Rinella and Phelps guys.........

Who the heck are they ???

Why should I want a call they made ??
you shouldn't....

OK, then.   We'll call it good.    :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Happy on March 01, 2022, 06:43:04 AM
I just people would realize that there is no man on this earth that deserves someone's blind loyalty. Not saying Steve is a horrible person but he has his faults just like everyone else in this world. I just prefer to keep my attention on the actual friends I have and interact with. There is a world outside of Instagram tweets and "following " someone. I have my hands full keeping track of my life and being who I want to be as opposed to trying to be like someone else.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: camotoe on March 01, 2022, 12:24:54 PM
Quote from: Happy on March 01, 2022, 06:43:04 AM
I just people would realize that there is no man on this earth that deserves someone's blind loyalty. Not saying Steve is a horrible person but he has his faults just like everyone else in this world. I just prefer to keep my attention on the actual friends I have and interact with. There is a world outside of Instagram tweets and "following " someone. I have my hands full keeping track of my life and being who I want to be as opposed to trying to be like someone else.
Listen to his brother Matt , totally different way of looking at the media craze of selling out the public .


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Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: Happy on March 01, 2022, 12:38:05 PM
I have listened to Matt, agree with some of the things he has to say as well. I don't "like", "follow" or subscribe to anyone. I do listen and read a lot but quite frankly every person would do well to be their own person and quite trying to be like every other popular figure out there. Every great person has their weaknesses and when you compound it with money and fame it becomes even more tricky. I don't envy anyone who is famous and I want no part of it. I just want to be the best me that I can be. Its saddening watching all the wannabes and copycats running around "following" someone.
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: pdaugherty on March 01, 2022, 04:09:53 PM
I won't give a penny to anything involving Meateater. The Chernin group, Peter Chernin, owns the controlling shares of Meateater. They are as antigun, anti-hunting, and far left as you can get. Anyone that supports Meateater or their sponsors is giving their hard earned money to everything we should stand against. It is all about the all mighty dollar to some and Meateater showed that to be true when they sold out!
Title: Re: Speaking of Meat Eater …
Post by: camotoe on March 01, 2022, 05:41:46 PM
Happy agree , be the best you can be . I know who came before me and I strive to do my best each day . Some times I fail but that's fine we are all human .


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