In watching a Pinhoti Project once, I believe Dave mentioned he had a kids stock on his gun.
I liked the idea and tried it on a Franchi 28 gauge that had the youth stock I purchased for my daughter 15 years ago. It seems to slip in place so easily that I'm considering it for my other turkey guns.
Anyone else do this? Any thoughts or concerns?
Yes sir, shoot youth models almost exclusively for turkey if a newer gun. Makes all the difference in the world on a shot to your non dominant side ( right side for a right handed shooter, 3 oclock). Remingtons have shorter LOPs and feel great compared to newer guns like Stoeger, youths are not only an advantage because of the weight but mostly because of the LOP
Youth or compact stocks are the only way to go. I have a little shorter arms to begin with so I have swapped a lot of my guns stocks in the last few years.
Yep, my 20-ga is a youth model and on my 12-ga, I swapped it out for a shorter stock some time back.
Has long as it's a dedicated turkey gun I have a youth model that one day I had the bright idea to try and rabbit hunt with it I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn
I like my gun to fit, do not want it short! Too short and you may catch a thumb in the nose!
Agree, i want it to fit.. don't care for a short stock
Reason Dave has a short shot was he said he had shorter arms etc in the video..
I understand Dave's and many others reasons, but not the I just want a short stock reasons.
I am a wing shooter, shot thousands of Dove's before I ever even hunted turkeys, properly fitted guns are crucial.
Yup youth models, even cut my benelli steady grip shorter.
With a red dot hitting shouldn't be an issue
Yeah as mentioned Covehntr probably needs the youth stock because he's a little feller. I prefer the youth stock when sitting at a tree for being bunched up and turning to your right. Wingshooting, deer, I shoot an older A5. Only at the base of a tree do I want a short LOP, and I've made shots with the butt pad in some off positions that would have been impossible with a standard sized stock
I have a shorter LOP and therefore most all of my guns have shortened or have youth stocks on them. Lots of people out there don't fit a 14" LOP, especially bundled up, hunched at the base of a tree, or wearing waders. My shooting improved dramatically once I realized how important LOP was and made the switch.
I shoot a 870 compact and a Tikka T3 compact for my deer rifle. I'm really short so these fit me much better. When you're shooting a rifle it's even more important to be able to get the right distance from the scope especially if I have a backpack strap between the gun and my shoulder. Sometimes the way you get slouched around the tree turkey hunting the shorter stock really helps out.
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I bought a mossberg 510 mini 20ga a few years back and removed the spacers from the stock to make it as short as possible, which I think put it at a 10.5" LOP. It felt fine sitting against my wall in the living room. I went to pattern it with a turkey load and that gun hit my face so hard that I just packed everything up and went home. Even with all of the stock spacers the mini stock was still too short. I ended up buying a magpull SGA stock for it and running 1 spacer for a LOP of 13", which is just about perfect for me.
Quote from: fmf on February 01, 2022, 09:05:43 AM
I bought a mossberg 510 mini 20ga a few years back and removed the spacers from the stock to make it as short as possible, which I think put it at a 10.5" LOP. It felt fine sitting against my wall in the living room. I went to pattern it with a turkey load and that gun hit my face so hard that I just packed everything up and went home. Even with all of the stock spacers the mini stock was still too short. I ended up buying a magpull SGA stock for it and running 1 spacer for a LOP of 13", which is just about perfect for me.
That cracked me up....Just pack it in, head home, and regroup. haha.
13" is what works great for me as well. Amazing the difference
I actually put an adult size stock on a youth model action and barrel 870 20GA. Its a very short gun and with a vortex red dot and TSS handloads it will kill turkeys all day long.
one more advantage of a double trigger gun,
front trigger with normal LOP for moving turkeys,
back trigger for shorter LOP for awkward positions, or shooting left handed.
There are times the shorter lop is more practical.
I cut an inch off the stock of my 835 twenty years ago. At last I finally have found 1 area I am ahead of the curve!
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My youth model SA-28 has a 12.5" LOP and the adult model 14.5" LOP. I added a 1" slip on recoil pad and it is perfect for turkey hunting off a stool/lounger.
I'll second that on the Mossberg 510, it is junk. Will kick the snot out of you.
Funny? My son killed 1 gobbler with his 510. After that he refused to pull the trigger. Out of desperation I traded it in on a M2. He will shoot it.
For you guys that love your Mossberg pumps.... One day maybe you will own a gun that is not engineered to kick you in the face.
When a turkey comes in on my hard left (left handed) I switch shoulders. Lot less movement than trying to turn your body to shoot. LOP has not affected me in a negative way on my BPS.
every long gun I own (with the exception of the youth models) has a shortened stock. not much, but shorter than factory. just works better for me especially on colder days with heavier clothing.
Quote from: Happy on February 01, 2022, 05:36:43 PM
I cut an inch off the stock of my 835 twenty years ago. At last I finally have found 1 area I am ahead of the curve!
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Well that, and don't forget about that honking big single TSS pellet you pack around.
Went to a youth model 870 20 gauge a few yrs ago, wish I would have done it sooner. I struggled with my 835 for yrs while sitting against a tree and finally bit the bullet and got a shorter LOP. Love it.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220202/1583cf020c15771d022dbc7fdaa271c1.jpg)
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I put an adjustable stock on an old mossburg 500 years ago , luv it . My shoulder is pinned so I needed the short l o p
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I cut mine 3 times and it is still too short.
I shorted the stock on Marlin 1896 44 mag, for my son years ago to youth hunt with for deer, that gun today if it had the full length stock would bring around 1000 dollars or more but in shorting the stock i well decreased the value, so keep this in mine also. I would of never figured Marlin would of had to sell to Ruger Firearms but they did.. In the old day's we did have much option but to shorten a stock for kid's but regardless it was worth doing.
Quote from: the Ward on February 02, 2022, 01:20:01 PM
I cut mine 3 times and it is still too short.
Measure twice, cut once!! haha
My LOP is 13" so I either get the stocks cut down, order thinner recoil pads, or order shorter stocks for my guns. Longer LOPs have negatively affected my wingshooting before. As you may imagine, I have not had problems with shorter LOP guns. I can see where a shorter, handier gun may be a good thing in the turkey woods.
I seem to recall the Hunting Public mentioning the youth LOP on their 870 they pass around as well. I'm itching to buy a new dedicated Turkey gun, maybe I need to shoulder a youth model.
Shoulder a youth model sitting down ready position with your vest straps you will love the shorter stock
Quote from: the Ward on February 02, 2022, 01:20:01 PM
I cut mine 3 times and it is still too short.
Dang don't give up. Keep trying and it's bound to work out lol.
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I definitely like a shorter stock on my turkey gun & hunting rifles. All my deer rifles have about a 13.5" LOP. On my 870 turkey gun I have a Magpul stock like someone else mentioned that has spacers that you can adjust the LOP to your preference. I love that stock on that gun. Feels like a totally different gun than with the factory stock.