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Title: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Paulmyr on January 09, 2022, 06:05:26 AM
Never thought about Hunting Ms in my entire lifetime.
They çhanged thier regs for the better so they thought. When is the Miss non res drawing?  Season is 3 months away! How do I apply? Hmmm.......????
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: simpzenith on January 09, 2022, 08:07:06 AM
https://youtu.be/PNXl-fkSn5s
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: deerhunt1988 on January 09, 2022, 10:54:31 AM
It is for the better. Social media and YouTube has led to drastic increases in non-resident turkey hunting across the nation . Mississippi saw its non-resident turkey hunter numbers increase drastically in just 3 springs. With the vast majority hunting public lands. Nice to see a state looking out for its residents and protecting their public land hunting quality!

Edit: Correction, it was early season license sales that doubled in just TWO years!!!

https://www.mdwfp.com/media/news/wildlife-hunting/pr-spring-turkey-season-changes/

QuoteWith one of the 's earliest opening days, Mississippi always has been a popular destination for traveling hunters hoping to kick off their turkey season before its arrival in their home states. However, non-resident license sales during the season's initial weeks have doubled in the last two years, prompting public calls to address the issue. 
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: simpzenith on January 09, 2022, 11:47:10 AM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on January 09, 2022, 10:54:31 AM
Mississippi saw its non-resident turkey hunter numbers DOUBLE in just 3 springs.

That is incorrect. MS would need an additional 1400+ NR licenses sold in order to actually double the number sold in 2018.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: deerhunt1988 on January 09, 2022, 12:58:12 PM
Quote from: simpzenith on January 09, 2022, 11:47:10 AM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on January 09, 2022, 10:54:31 AM
Mississippi saw its non-resident turkey hunter numbers DOUBLE in just 3 springs.

That is incorrect. MS would need an additional 1400+ NR licenses sold in order to actually double the number sold in 2018.

Excuse me, almost doubled. An increase of 3,000 NR turkey permits that are primarily hunting public land the first couple weeks of the season is quite substantial. Not quite double, but a 75% increase.



I got it mixed up with the March license sales doubling.

https://www.mdwfp.com/media/news/wildlife-hunting/pr-spring-turkey-season-changes/

QuoteWith one of the 's earliest opening days, Mississippi always has been a popular destination for traveling hunters hoping to kick off their turkey season before its arrival in their home states. However, non-resident license sales during the season's initial weeks have doubled in the last two years, prompting public calls to address the issue. 

March license sales doubled in two years. Incredible!

Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: TurkeyReaper69 on January 09, 2022, 01:10:02 PM
Quote from: Paulmyr on January 09, 2022, 06:05:26 AM
Never thought about Hunting Ms in my entire lifetime.
They çhanged thier regs for the better so they thought. When is the Miss non res drawing?  Season is 3 months away! How do I apply? Hmmm.......????
"So they thought" what is that supposed to mean? Yes it is changed for the better. If I was a covid freak I'd of worn an N-95 Mask on our public lands last March due to how crowded they are.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: simpzenith on January 09, 2022, 01:10:31 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on January 09, 2022, 12:58:12 PM
Excuse me, almost doubled. An increase of 3,000 NR turkey permits that are primarily hunting public land the first couple weeks of the season is quite substantial. Not quite double, but a 75% increase.

Actually, it's a 67% increase but that's not important. Did you know that the number of resident turkey hunters, during that same time period, also increased by about 12,000?
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Stoeger_bird on January 09, 2022, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: simpzenith on January 09, 2022, 01:10:31 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on January 09, 2022, 12:58:12 PM
Excuse me, almost doubled. An increase of 3,000 NR turkey permits that are primarily hunting public land the first couple weeks of the season is quite substantial. Not quite double, but a 75% increase.

Actually, it's a 67% increase but that's not important. Did you know that the number of resident turkey hunters, during that same time period, also increased by about 12,000?
So your saying a state that is going through a down cycle in its turkey population saw a very large increase in non resident and resident lisence sales so decided to limit the nonresidents so the people who actually live there have a better experience? I love it! Wish my state would do that but instead we just keep taking opportunity away from everyone instead of the ones who live in the state.  Do u have a problem with how states out west look after their own residents in big game hunting? Seems like thats what MS is doing with turkey. Good for them.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: simpzenith on January 09, 2022, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on January 09, 2022, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: simpzenith on January 09, 2022, 01:10:31 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on January 09, 2022, 12:58:12 PM
Excuse me, almost doubled. An increase of 3,000 NR turkey permits that are primarily hunting public land the first couple weeks of the season is quite substantial. Not quite double, but a 75% increase.

Actually, it's a 67% increase but that's not important. Did you know that the number of resident turkey hunters, during that same time period, also increased by about 12,000?
So your saying a state that is going through a down cycle in its turkey population saw a very large increase in non resident and resident lisence sales so decided to limit the nonresidents so the people who actually live there have a better experience? I love it! Wish my state would do that but instead we just keep taking opportunity away from everyone instead of the ones who live in the state.  Do u have a problem with how states out west look after their own residents in big game hunting? Seems like thats what MS is doing with turkey. Good for them.

I'm not saying anything, just passing along the requested info for the OP and helping pass along correct information in regards to the other poster. I like how MS decided to handle the uptick in license sales. The went about it in the right way imo.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: sasquatch1 on January 09, 2022, 01:38:18 PM
I've always hunted mississippi, the whole season or until limited as I live close by and my state sucks.

So, I don't like it. However I also didn't like the crowds I saw last year. It seemed like where I hunt tripled in one year. Your first gate better have been where you planned to stay all day. Moving around to other spots through the day was near impossible.

Good for them


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Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: deerhunt1988 on January 09, 2022, 01:38:21 PM
Quote from: simpzenith on January 09, 2022, 01:10:31 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on January 09, 2022, 12:58:12 PM
Excuse me, almost doubled. An increase of 3,000 NR turkey permits that are primarily hunting public land the first couple weeks of the season is quite substantial. Not quite double, but a 75% increase.

Actually, it's a 67% increase but that's not important. Did you know that the number of resident turkey hunters, during that same time period, also increased by about 12,000?

I sure did. 30% increase in resident hunters since 2018.

So non-resident hunting was increasing at a rate over double.

Once again, props to Mississippi for protecting the public land hunting quality for its residents. From the changes we've seen in recent years, don't be surprised if more states follow suit.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: deerhunt1988 on January 09, 2022, 01:43:14 PM
Quote from: simpzenith on January 09, 2022, 01:36:33 PM

I'm not saying anything, just passing along the requested info for the OP and helping pass along correct information in regards to the other poster. I like how MS decided to handle the uptick in license sales. The went about it in the right way imo.

I have since amended my post. Like previously stated, I had it confused with early season license sales doubling, which is even more concerning. Thanks for catching it!

Looks like we can all agree that it is a win for MS resident public land hunters.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: silvestris on January 09, 2022, 03:30:18 PM
What brought on this situation is the failure of the species to keep their mouths shut, whether face-to-face or print or social media.  The cat is out of the bag and kitty ain't going back in.  I would hate to be a new turkey in today's world.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: sasquatch1 on January 09, 2022, 03:37:21 PM
Quote from: silvestris on January 09, 2022, 03:30:18 PM
What brought on this situation is the failure of the species to keep their mouths shut, whether face-to-face or print or social media.  The cat is out of the bag and kitty ain't going back in.  I would hate to be a new turkey in today's world.
It's the social media fame by far that's the biggest impact. It's All about the likes.


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Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: aclawrence on January 09, 2022, 03:47:38 PM
Alabama has changed up our rules to so hopefully it will knock a little pressure off.  We can only kill one bird within the first ten days of the season and only two off one one wma.  I know we had a group from Arkansas camping out on my local WMA last year and they had killed 3 or 4 gobblers.  If they want to come back they'll have to be content with their one bird and move along


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Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Candyman on January 09, 2022, 05:31:05 PM
Quote from: aclawrence on January 09, 2022, 03:47:38 PM
Alabama has changed up our rules to so hopefully it will knock a little pressure off.  We can only kill one bird within the first ten days of the season and only two off one one wma.  I know we had a group from Arkansas camping out on my local WMA last year and they had killed 3 or 4 gobblers.  If they want to come back they'll have to be content with their one bird and move along


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And no decoys the first 10 days.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Paulmyr on January 09, 2022, 07:04:47 PM
Quote from: TurkeyReaper69 on January 09, 2022, 01:10:02 PM
Quote from: Paulmyr on January 09, 2022, 06:05:26 AM
Never thought about Hunting Ms in my entire lifetime.
They çhanged thier regs for the better so they thought. When is the Miss non res drawing?  Season is 3 months away! How do I apply? Hmmm.......????
"So they thought" what is that supposed to mean? Yes it is changed for the better. If I was a covid freak I'd of worn an N-95 Mask on our public lands last March due to how crowded they are.
With the changes to starting dates of southern states Miss is still the early bird even after the the 2 week non res lottery. My guess is the mad rush of oosers will only be delayed by 2 weeks. The turkeys in Miss are going to be pounded for opener and again 2 weeks later with non res hunters instead of just being pounded for opener. Good for the turkeys or just good for Res turkey hunters?
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: aclawrence on January 09, 2022, 07:20:13 PM
Our biologist pushed ours back in north Alabama from last season. I guess it would be nice if Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, and Mississippi would all kick off on the same day. Unless you're a traveling turkey hunter then that would lower your total days.


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Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: sasquatch1 on January 09, 2022, 07:23:29 PM
Quote from: aclawrence on January 09, 2022, 07:20:13 PM
Our biologist pushed ours back in north Alabama from last season. I guess it would be nice if Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, and Mississippi would all kick off on the same day. Unless you're a traveling turkey hunter then that would lower your total days.


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Your not even "hip" anymore unless you can claim the traveling hunter title.


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Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Dtrkyman on January 09, 2022, 07:26:00 PM
sucks for you southern boys, only hunted the south once, wish I would have back in the day as I have no desire to deal with the BS.   

Hopefully a couple good hatch years will get things headed back in the right direction.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: aclawrence on January 09, 2022, 08:10:44 PM
Quote from: sasquatch1 on January 09, 2022, 07:23:29 PM
Quote from: aclawrence on January 09, 2022, 07:20:13 PM
Our biologist pushed ours back in north Alabama from last season. I guess it would be nice if Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, and Mississippi would all kick off on the same day. Unless you're a traveling turkey hunter then that would lower your total days.


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Your not even "hip" anymore unless you can claim the traveling hunter title.


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Hey it sounds like a lot of fun to me but I can spend the whole dang season at home and barely kill two gobblers lol. I would like to see some new places one day though. But yeah I know what you mean.


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Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: WV Flopper on January 09, 2022, 08:15:06 PM
 I hope your population rebounds as good as ever. I truly do.

In 4-6 years maybe we will see a good result.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: northms on January 10, 2022, 12:14:05 AM
Quote from: Paulmyr on January 09, 2022, 07:04:47 PM
Quote from: TurkeyReaper69 on January 09, 2022, 01:10:02 PM
Quote from: Paulmyr on January 09, 2022, 06:05:26 AM
Never thought about Hunting Ms in my entire lifetime.
They çhanged thier regs for the better so they thought. When is the Miss non res drawing?  Season is 3 months away! How do I apply? Hmmm.......????
"So they thought" what is that supposed to mean? Yes it is changed for the better. If I was a covid freak I'd of worn an N-95 Mask on our public lands last March due to how crowded they are.
With the changes to starting dates of southern states Miss is still the early bird even after the the 2 week non res lottery. My guess is the mad rush of oosers will only be delayed by 2 weeks. The turkeys in Miss are going to be pounded for opener and again 2 weeks later with non res hunters instead of just being pounded for opener. Good for the turkeys or just good for Res turkey hunters?

It will delay a few for those two weeks but many will stay home and hunt their own openers come April 1 instead of heading to MS. At least that's the thought process by MDWFP I presume. They limit out of state pressure from pouring in, killing birds in MS, and heading back for their own openers. Many guys in recent years use MS as a pre-opener to their state and the results have been immense pressure.

I could go out during the work week 3-4 years ago and not run into too many people. Now it'll be Tuesday morning and be like the Daytona 500 on public land. It's insane. I wish MS would also put restrictions in like AL on the no decoys and one bird per WMA or whatever it is. Numbers have been dwindling and I see no positive outcome without intervention. 

Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: turkeyfool on January 10, 2022, 09:34:50 PM
Hunted it in 18', 19', and 20' when I lived on the Mississippi line (but on the Tennessee side). That state is tough man. A lot of nonresident hunters. I honestly don't know that I'd just go blaming MS' struggles on social media, it seems like the Arkansas guys I've met there have been hunting Miss consistently for a long time. Think I may have come across 2 birds in the woods on Public in 3 years.

I'm not even gonna speculate on what all of the problems may be, but I can tell you that I think there's a lot of resident hunters hunting before the season officially starts. And I also believe there's a lot of landowners running a feeder pretty heavily
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: deadbuck on January 11, 2022, 11:52:17 AM
This new NR rule will delay us killing our birds to below huntable numbers a little longer. With a 7 week season, no true tagging system, folks running feeders, real time game cameras, a bag limit of 3, and college kids shooting TSS and crawling ditches with fans and all the time in the world to hunt they will soon be gone.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Stoeger_bird on January 11, 2022, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: deadbuck on January 11, 2022, 11:52:17 AM
This new NR rule will delay us killing our birds to below huntable numbers a little longer. With a 7 week season, no true tagging system, folks running feeders, real time game cameras, a bag limit of 3, and college kids shooting TSS and crawling ditches with fans and all the time in the world to hunt they will soon be gone.
Umm no way! U didn't know that all this new hunter recruitment the youtubers are doing is going the save the wild turkey! No way it will have a negative impact!
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: deadbuck on January 11, 2022, 09:48:52 PM
and we have all day hunting so you dont even have to get up early
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Howie g on January 20, 2022, 07:25:26 AM
Dead buck summed it up pretty good . Feeders in every field and timber opening , no tagging , early season , to long of a season , all day hunting , very little law enforcement and a few poor hatches has taken its toll on our turkeys .  Although I applaud the effort , I'm not sure if this new oos draw is the answer. I pray I'm wrong !
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: sasquatch1 on January 20, 2022, 08:01:05 AM
Quote from: Howie g on January 20, 2022, 07:25:26 AM
Dead buck summed it up pretty good . Feeders in every field and timber opening , no tagging , early season , to long of a season , all day hunting , very little law enforcement and a few poor hatches has taken its toll on our turkeys .  Although I applaud the effort , I'm not sure if this new oos draw is the answer. I pray I'm wrong !
One of my biggest fears is now the draw will trigger FOMO, and actually cause more people to try and draw than ever went before.

That plus all the people getting everyone they know to apply, that way if they themselves don't draw they can go hunt with their friend who did.

Hopefully it don't turn into Utah elk, where 20 people are all out there hunting with a friend who has a tag.

I'm good with the draw but I think we also need funding, just remove 3/7 day licenses or something.

If you wanna hunt buy the whole damn thing, maybe then we can actually start allocating some funding to buy more lands and manage them better.


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Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: aclawrence on January 20, 2022, 08:21:16 AM
I see what your saying about the tagging along like Utah thing but I don't think most turkey hunters are going to go for that. If I drew a tag 20 people wouldn't even know about it. More funding couldn't hurt anything.


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Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: deerhunt1988 on January 20, 2022, 08:22:54 AM
Quote from: sasquatch1 on January 20, 2022, 08:01:05 AM
Quote from: Howie g on January 20, 2022, 07:25:26 AM
Dead buck summed it up pretty good . Feeders in every field and timber opening , no tagging , early season , to long of a season , all day hunting , very little law enforcement and a few poor hatches has taken its toll on our turkeys .  Although I applaud the effort , I'm not sure if this new oos draw is the answer. I pray I'm wrong !
One of my biggest fears is now the draw will trigger FOMO, and actually cause more people to try and draw than ever went before.

That plus all the people getting everyone they know to apply, that way if they themselves don't draw they can go hunt with their friend who did.

Hopefully it don't turn into Utah elk, where 20 people are all out there hunting with a friend who has a tag.

I'm good with the draw but I think we also need funding, just remove 3/7 day licenses or something.

If you wanna hunt buy the whole damn thing, maybe then we can actually start allocating some funding to buy more lands and manage them better.


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Mississippi did increase non-resident 3 and 7 day license costs by $25 and the non-rez turkey permit by $30, making it at least $200 now for a NR to turkey hunt. Which puts it in line with other states. Considering March public land opportunity is virtually non-existent elsewhere now other than FL and Hawaii, still a heck of a deal.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: sasquatch1 on January 20, 2022, 08:28:05 AM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on January 20, 2022, 08:22:54 AM
Quote from: sasquatch1 on January 20, 2022, 08:01:05 AM
Quote from: Howie g on January 20, 2022, 07:25:26 AM
Dead buck summed it up pretty good . Feeders in every field and timber opening , no tagging , early season , to long of a season , all day hunting , very little law enforcement and a few poor hatches has taken its toll on our turkeys .  Although I applaud the effort , I'm not sure if this new oos draw is the answer. I pray I'm wrong !
One of my biggest fears is now the draw will trigger FOMO, and actually cause more people to try and draw than ever went before.

That plus all the people getting everyone they know to apply, that way if they themselves don't draw they can go hunt with their friend who did.

Hopefully it don't turn into Utah elk, where 20 people are all out there hunting with a friend who has a tag.

I'm good with the draw but I think we also need funding, just remove 3/7 day licenses or something.

If you wanna hunt buy the whole damn thing, maybe then we can actually start allocating some funding to buy more lands and manage them better.


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Mississippi did increase non-resident 3 and 7 day license costs by $25 and the non-rez turkey permit by $30, making it at least $200 now for a NR to turkey hunt. Which puts it in line with other states. Considering March public land opportunity is virtually non-existent elsewhere now other than FL and Hawaii, still a heck of a deal.
Yep. And the wma stamp, is virtually a steal.

All states need to increase that a lot.


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Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Prohunter3509 on January 20, 2022, 09:29:59 AM
Until Mississippi shortens the season
They have done nothing. And maybe
Puts the limit to 2 birds
Our part of the state is hurting
They gone all out to promote out of state hunters
The draw was just to save face with resident hunter
Mdwfp officials I have talked to just laughs at what the new law is.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: TurkeyReaper69 on January 22, 2022, 11:49:37 AM
Quote from: simpzenith on January 09, 2022, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: Stoeger_bird on January 09, 2022, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: simpzenith on January 09, 2022, 01:10:31 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on January 09, 2022, 12:58:12 PM
Excuse me, almost doubled. An increase of 3,000 NR turkey permits that are primarily hunting public land the first couple weeks of the season is quite substantial. Not quite double, but a 75% increase.

Actually, it's a 67% increase but that's not important. Did you know that the number of resident turkey hunters, during that same time period, also increased by about 12,000?
So your saying a state that is going through a down cycle in its turkey population saw a very large increase in non resident and resident lisence sales so decided to limit the nonresidents so the people who actually live there have a better experience? I love it! Wish my state would do that but instead we just keep taking opportunity away from everyone instead of the ones who live in the state.  Do u have a problem with how states out west look after their own residents in big game hunting? Seems like thats what MS is doing with turkey. Good for them.

I'm not saying anything, just passing along the requested info for the OP and helping pass along correct information in regards to the other poster. I like how MS decided to handle the uptick in license sales. The went about it in the right way imo.
Shane, completely unrelated. But how did you think it was a good idea to post a YouTube video in iowa bragging about the abundance of birds on public land while the draw is still open? That wasn't very smart. Really all that did was hurt everyone's chances of drawing who'd already put in their apps, including you if you care.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: simpzenith on January 22, 2022, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: TurkeyReaper69 on January 22, 2022, 11:49:37 AM
Shane, completely unrelated. But how did you think it was a good idea to post a YouTube video in iowa bragging about the abundance of birds on public land while the draw is still open? That wasn't very smart. Really all that did was hurt everyone's chances of drawing who'd already put in their apps, including you if you care.

Can you be more specific? I don't recall that in my latest videos. Even so, everyone already knows that Iowa has a healthy turkey population.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: TurkeyReaper69 on January 22, 2022, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: simpzenith on January 22, 2022, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: TurkeyReaper69 on January 22, 2022, 11:49:37 AM
Shane, completely unrelated. But how did you think it was a good idea to post a YouTube video in iowa bragging about the abundance of birds on public land while the draw is still open? That wasn't very smart. Really all that did was hurt everyone's chances of drawing who'd already put in their apps, including you if you care.

Can you be more specific? I don't recall that in my latest videos. Even so, everyone already knows that Iowa has a healthy turkey population.
Right here. I've attached the screenshot. From your latest iowa video. I wouldn't go as far to say Everyone knows. But even if everyone did why can't you wait till after the draw closes. I'm sure a many folks probably watched the video then decided to apply only after watching your video and reading caption
https://imgur.com/a/2sKt4kd
Try think link. Should work fine.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: simpzenith on January 22, 2022, 06:15:50 PM
Quote from: TurkeyReaper69 on January 22, 2022, 05:12:31 PM
But even if everyone did why can't you wait till after the draw closes.

Gotcha, you're referring to the video description. Well we were hearing/seeing an abundance of gobblers. Iowa is a great state to turkey hunt. You should give it a try sometime. As for when I post my Iowa video, my videos are sequential so I'm just picking up where I left off last spring which was in Iowa.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: WV Flopper on January 22, 2022, 06:27:15 PM
Flamers just flaming.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Howie g on January 22, 2022, 07:58:14 PM
I here by claim it un lawful to mention a states name on anything that concerns the wild turkey!
   This includes, you tubers / facebookers / podcasters etc .  Everyone can thank me later !!
Ps . You tubers , I'll still watch ur stuff !  But for Pete's sake ! Stop mentioning states !
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Chase0311 on January 22, 2022, 08:07:39 PM
Quote from: TurkeyReaper69 on January 22, 2022, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: simpzenith on January 22, 2022, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: TurkeyReaper69 on January 22, 2022, 11:49:37 AM
Shane, completely unrelated. But how did you think it was a good idea to post a YouTube video in iowa bragging about the abundance of birds on public land while the draw is still open? That wasn't very smart. Really all that did was hurt everyone's chances of drawing who'd already put in their apps, including you if you care.

Can you be more specific? I don't recall that in my latest videos. Even so, everyone already knows that Iowa has a healthy turkey population.
Right here. I've attached the screenshot. From your latest iowa video. I wouldn't go as far to say Everyone knows. But even if everyone did why can't you wait till after the draw closes. I'm sure a many folks probably watched the video then decided to apply only after watching your video and reading caption
https://imgur.com/a/2sKt4kd
Try think link. Should work fine.

Good luck trying to talk common sense with that cat. For some, generating clicks on their YouTube videos is all they care about.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: silent tom on January 25, 2022, 07:35:45 AM
Quote from: simpzenith on January 22, 2022, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: TurkeyReaper69 on January 22, 2022, 11:49:37 AM
Shane, completely unrelated. But how did you think it was a good idea to post a YouTube video in iowa bragging about the abundance of birds on public land while the draw is still open? That wasn't very smart. Really all that did was hurt everyone's chances of drawing who'd already put in their apps, including you if you care.

Can you be more specific? I don't recall that in my latest videos. Even so, everyone already knows that Iowa has a healthy turkey population.
People may or may not know it.  But what you did is put the information at the finger tips of social media/keyboard hunters. While the draw is still open. Congratulations on whatever goal you set out to accomplish. 
For what exactly? An ego stroke, because these damn YouTube videos aren't anything else. 
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Mossyguy on January 25, 2022, 08:22:08 AM
Quote from: Howie g on January 20, 2022, 07:25:26 AM
Dead buck summed it up pretty good . Feeders in every field and timber opening

If I remember correctly a few years ago they tried to disallow feeders during turkey season but the deer people complained that their deer would starve if they couldn't feed them...so that didn't help any.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Howie g on January 25, 2022, 08:17:47 PM
Correct , and suddenly lots of deer hunters and become consistent gobbler killas .
  Hmmm ????.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: quavers59 on January 26, 2022, 01:40:53 AM
  I would Love to hunt Mississippi.  Will Primos Hunts some Beautiful  Mississippi Hardwoods.
   Might have to check further in Feb and google Holly Springs Forest. Might be nice to see the Spring early as,I am from New York. Supposed to be a big Noreaster Snowstorm  this Saturday.  That makes me want to join the Fun down South.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: dzsmith on January 27, 2022, 12:35:51 AM
weve been dealing with what you described in mississippi for decades. obviously certain areas are affected more than others, but anyway .....this will be the first year that something has been done do deter  some of the killing at least. sounds kinda bad right....but like you said, it usually aint killing a bird and leaving for them folks. Its 2-3 weeks of turkey camp
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: dzsmith on January 27, 2022, 12:43:34 AM
Quote from: turkeyfool on January 10, 2022, 09:34:50 PM
Hunted it in 18', 19', and 20' when I lived on the Mississippi line (but on the Tennessee side). That state is tough man. A lot of nonresident hunters. I honestly don't know that I'd just go blaming MS' struggles on social media, it seems like the Arkansas guys I've met there have been hunting Miss consistently for a long time. Think I may have come across 2 birds in the woods on Public in 3 years.

I'm not even gonna speculate on what all of the problems may be, but I can tell you that I think there's a lot of resident hunters hunting before the season officially starts. And I also believe there's a lot of landowners running a feeder pretty heavily

what you described happens for sure. tons of feed. every private has a feeder or two or..maybe 30-40 feeders. You think im playing....im not. No real way to regulate around that . It may be illegal to shoot at turkey here at a feeder but its not illegal to have feeders out. It has its effects, always has. Yeah you have some early birds who will kill them as soon as they find one....thats always been a thing to. nothing new there. however....non res impact has gone up. it just has. a lot of folks on here have hunted the same areas their entire lives and can tell you what the differences are between now and then. its a rat race......you are correct though, a lot of the arkies  have been here for decades as well.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: dzsmith on January 27, 2022, 12:50:19 AM
Quote from: Mossyguy on January 25, 2022, 08:22:08 AM
Quote from: Howie g on January 20, 2022, 07:25:26 AM
Dead buck summed it up pretty good . Feeders in every field and timber opening

If I remember correctly a few years ago they tried to disallow feeders during turkey season but the deer people complained that their deer would starve if they couldn't feed them...so that didn't help any.

Yeah that was after the super long flood of the south delta. people threw a fit, to feed their starving deer in the spring. i remember that. It had some steam behind, i was pretty sure it was gonna be outlawed. Nope.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: arkrem870 on January 27, 2022, 09:06:02 PM
Loose lips sink ships...... pimping out public land turkeys for profit has consequences. We public land turkey hunters are reaping the rewards of lost hunting opportunities and further restrictions. So a handful of youtubers and social media attention whores can stroke their ego and make a few dollars.  Been traveling for over two decades and hunted 6-10 different states a year through this time. I've seen the evolution. Don't piss on us and tell us it's raining.
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: mrclif on January 28, 2022, 08:37:14 AM
Quote from: arkrem870 on January 27, 2022, 09:06:02 PM
Loose lips sink ships...... pimping out public land turkeys for profit has consequences. We public land turkey hunters are reaping the rewards of lost hunting opportunities and further restrictions. So a handful of youtubers and social media attention whores can stroke their ego and make a few dollars.  Been traveling for over two decades and hunted 6-10 different states a year through this time. I've seen the evolution. Don't piss on us and tell us it's raining.
:z-winnersmiley: :agreed:
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: Kyle_Ott on January 31, 2022, 09:13:54 PM
Quote from: arkrem870 on January 27, 2022, 09:06:02 PM
Loose lips sink ships...... pimping out public land turkeys for profit has consequences. We public land turkey hunters are reaping the rewards of lost hunting opportunities and further restrictions. So a handful of youtubers and social media attention whores can stroke their ego and make a few dollars.  Been traveling for over two decades and hunted 6-10 different states a year through this time. I've seen the evolution. Don't piss on us and tell us it's raining.

This paragraph is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
:z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: Ms non res drawing?
Post by: jtg88 on February 02, 2022, 08:51:31 PM
Quote from: arkrem870 on January 27, 2022, 09:06:02 PM
Loose lips sink ships...... pimping out public land turkeys for profit has consequences. We public land turkey hunters are reaping the rewards of lost hunting opportunities and further restrictions. So a handful of youtubers and social media attention whores can stroke their ego and make a few dollars.  Been traveling for over two decades and hunted 6-10 different states a year through this time. I've seen the evolution. Don't piss on us and tell us it's raining.

Amen!