I've watched these guys hunting turkeys for a little while and for the most part have admired how hard they work and never quit attitude. I don't remember ever seeing them use a decoy, but I haven't seen all of their videos.
I'm really disappointed seeing them stoop to using a fan. The guy who uses it claims that he only used it to make a move with his gun. You've got to move a bunch more getting something out of your vest than you do moving a shotgun. You carry a fan for hiding movement? Yeah right
They have a huge following and have the ability to influence new hunters. Turkeys are so vulnerable to the fan that it cheapens turkey hunting. IMO
99% of the comments on that video are positive, that is sad to me. I really hope that isn't the direction turkey hunting is going.
Fanning is for Fools..
Do yall find any fault in Knight and Hale? What about Will Primos? There is a lot of condemnation towards the social media community lately. Remember the Outdoor Channel? Sportmans Network? They were doing the same thing social media guys are doing. There was no condemnation towards them.They set unrealistic expectations that influenced beginners, as they often hunted world class private hunting grounds. They touted all the big name brands. They used the latest and greatest technology as an advantage. Why is mainstreem cable media accepted in the hunting community, but social media is considered bad?
decoys and fans, while legal, are just tools for those who cannot kill one by the call. very sad to cheapen the hunt with them...
Quote from: Pluffmud on May 16, 2021, 05:17:04 AM
Do yall find any fault in Knight and Hale? What about Will Primos? There is a lot of condemnation towards the social media community lately. Remember the Outdoor Channel? Sportmans Network? They were doing the same thing social media guys are doing. There was no condemnation towards them.They set unrealistic expectations that influenced beginners, as they often hunted world class private hunting grounds. They touted all the big name brands. They used the latest and greatest technology as an advantage. Why is mainstreem cable media accepted in the hunting community, but social media is considered bad?
If Primos or Knight and Hale were using a fan then yes I would find fault.
What I have seen on fanning videos, it's as lethal as corn is. Would you be in favor of legalizing hunting turkeys over bait?
If hunting turkeys is ALL about the kill, then I'd say that you just don't get it.
I have pretty much had an attitude that I wouldnt judge the methods another hunter used as long as it was legal. My attitude on fanning has been that it would be something to do once to say ya did it if you feel you have to and then never do it again.
What does concern me is that it seems 90% of the new turkey videos I see are using fanning as their go to method.
Those guys are NOT turkey hunters. Sorry.
Kinda like going to a strip club and thinking you are a ladies man, IMO.
:morning:
Marketing and sales: where the "sport" is being led? I was mentored by a hunter that stressed abilities over the actual kill. Many times I heard this phrase "that's hunting" when neither of us would bring home our quarry. "What did you learn?" was also said equally to emphasize the importance of growing into my abilities. This season I had the privelage of taking out a 17 year old hunter who has been brought up with the same mindset, and it was a blessing to help him along with his new found passion: turkey hunting. He's already an accomplished deer and duck hunter so he said those words "that's hunting" a few times as we weren't successful in bringing one home with us. He has been brought up to appreciate what all is involved in the hunt and understands the importance of his role in being able to be successful with respect to the final moments of his quarry's life. It's about the hunt: safety, have fun and if you bring one home, that's a plus! I built on his abilities and we had a great time in the woods, safely. I cannot understand how anyone can use a fan safely, much less market these things as a necessary tool for a successful tool. It's like putting on a deer costume during deer season and walking through the woods to me. Utter stupidity and totally irresponsible. :camohat:
I saw the video, and it really did not bother me all that much. If you watch hunting public semi regularly, you can't help but have respect for Aaron, the hunter in the video that used the fan. He has more than proven that he can kill birds in all terrain and scenarios and is just an all around likeable guy.
Now with that being said, and aside from this video, the surge of fanning should not be a surprise to anyone. Everything in today's world is about going big or going home. Everything is in grandiose fashion, in many ways to feed into social media on many levels. Think about how openly people talk about belly crawling a turkey now, and how accepted it is? My gosh growing up in Pennsylvania that would have been considered stalking and you would have been shamed. Those days are gone.
There's no doubt people are killing a lot of turkeys now, and by any means necessary aside from shooting them out of the roost. This is coinciding with the reduction of the resource. I think sometimes we need to take a step back and decide how bad we really want to kill "another" turkey. We've come a long way from the tactics of Gene Nunnery for sure.
I had a guy and his son/nephew sneak up on me "fanning" on public land (I was hen calling only). I had to yell at them as I was afraid of getting shot. I am sure it works wonders, but in my mind that is not hunting.
The reason people are alarmed over the youtubers vs tv guys ......youtubers are pimping public spots and screwing up local hunters with added pressure. Making public land hunting and traveling a fad/trend.
Waddell and the outdoor channel bunch are fanning nearly exclusively.....it makes for good tv and the products they push. Its comparable to spinning wing decoys in duck hunting .... it was cool at first then we realized the problems associated with it.
Same can also be said for youtubers.....it was enjoyable to watch at first then we saw the added pressure and toll it's taking on the resource. Just like with spinning wing decoys they need to disappear. But with $$$$ involved the powers that be look the other way
Those guys live by the " even a blind squirrel finds a nut " and are turkey hunters IMO. Sometimes ambushing jakes, shooting bearded hens and embellishing a justification i.e. covering up a movement with a fan are all that bring views. Good on them, promote your brand, not for me though.
You just want to point your finger and say, " there he is, that's the bad guy."
Then again shoot one bird behind the fan at 2 yards and your an immoral, cheater that lacks knowledge, values and skills to hunt the 'ol boy on his own terms. Is fanning the biggest metrics that are used in this activity to discern those credible from others and used as a qualifier to separate the wheat from the chaff?
I like turkey hunting videos, but unfortunately for me there are not many out there. I've not seen the video this thread mentions, read enough here to know it would be a waste of time for me to search it, so I won't comment on it. I haven't seen many turkey hunting videos at all. Have watched very few to the end. I usually make it to the first scene with a decoy, or some fool doing the happy dance because he just took the life of a gobbler. Usually that's within the first 30 seconds. The videos I enjoy are kids, and first timers showing the excitement of the hunt not necessarily the kill.
I wish I could go back 50 plus years when I started as a kid, and be able to take the social media technology with me. I wonder what the videos would be like. Typical conversation with a hunter back then was you hear or see anything? Nope, ain't seen or heard anything since last season. Peak in the bed of their truck or Jeep and chances are good you would see a turkey feather or two, or sometimes a hunting jacket with a turkeys foot or the tip of a wing sticking out. I'd like to see if the social media machine would have changed that mentality or if they would have remained the same. I have a feeling not many turkeys would have been posted back then. I always wonder if people have changed on their own over the years or if social media helped change people. I'm guessing social media played a big part. The positive for me is I've noticed a small trend where a few hunters seem to be reverting back to those haven't seen or heard anything all year tendencies. They share with a small group of people and not the entire google machine.
Unlike a lot of folks here, I actually really enjoy The Hunting Public typically. And they're all stupid woodsy. If you don't believe that try to consistently spot and stalk mature bedded whitetails. 99.9% of people couldn't do what they're managing to do each fall. Aaron seems to be a super genuine guy. Hell of an outdoorsman. A great advocate for the sport, and more importantly for the bird. That said, they've made mistakes and aren't infallible by any means. There have also been piles of, perhaps unintended, consequences as a result of their popularity. I haven't seen the video this post is referencing but if concealing a movement is the justification given, here's my objection: sometimes the turkey just wins. And that's okay! Matter of fact, that's the best part of it! In the past they've done a great job of not only showing kills, but showing the tough days and the days they get whooped by the quarry. Honestly that's what I enjoy most about them. It ain't all slow mo footage of five yard head shots. The Florida footage at the beginning of this year, they got whooped for days on end, and that's what they aired, them getting whooped. Aaron knows that, so maybe it was just a lapse of judgement. Personally I'd rather watch a good bird pin him down and whoop him than I would him use a fan to get away with things he couldn't get away with otherwise.
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Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 16, 2021, 09:05:51 AM
Unlike a lot of folks here, I actually really enjoy The Hunting Public typically. And they're all stupid woodsy. If you don't believe that try to consistently spot and stalk mature bedded whitetails. 99.9% of people couldn't do what they're managing to do each fall. Aaron seems to be a super genuine guy. Hell of an outdoorsman. A great advocate for the sport, and more importantly for the bird. That said, they've made mistakes and aren't infallible by any means. There have also been piles of, perhaps unintended, consequences as a result of their popularity. I haven't seen the video this post is referencing but if concealing a movement is the justification given, here's my objection: sometimes the turkey just wins. And that's okay! Matter of fact, that's the best part of it! In the past they've done a great job of not only showing kills, but showing the tough days and the days they get whooped by the quarry. Honestly that's what I enjoy most about them. It ain't all slow mo footage of five yard head shots. The Florida footage at the beginning of this year, they got whooped for days on end, and that's what they aired, them getting whooped. Aaron knows that, so maybe it was just a lapse of judgement. Personally I'd rather watch a good bird pin him down and whoop him than I would him use a fan to get away with things he couldn't get away with otherwise.
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I watched the video. The only issue I had with it was he said he was going to use the fan so he could move his gun. He then proceeded to fan the turkey all the way to the gun. If you're going to fan a turkey just be honest about it. Don't try to BS me.
Quote from: Jimspur on May 16, 2021, 09:16:34 AM
I watched the video. The only issue I had with it was he said he was going to use the fan so he could move his gun. He then proceeded to fan the turkey all the way to the gun. If you're going to fan a turkey just be honest about it. Don't try to BS me.
That's a shame.
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Do you think Aaron using the fanning was all for the sake of getting a kill on video? If we are going to talk about fanning and doing away with decoy's, then lets also do away with OnX hunt APP also... this mapping system has also contribute to a lot more gobblers being killed. Think about it, fanning, decoys, Onx hunt all of these are aid's in killing gobblers, right alone with TSS and better custom calls etc.. all of these items or some of these items we use as turkey hunter's now a day contributes in more gobblers being killed. Including Social media.. IMO.... Just take a minute and look at that shotgun your carrying, with fancy red dot's, scopes, screw in chokes, shells all again contribute to more gobblers being killed. Back in our early day of hunting we had non of these fancy items, just shotgun, few homemade calls and wanting to turkey hunt. SO we are all caught up in this game of using some kind of aid's in killing more gobblers in my opinion. Do i myself agree with fanning, I will say it's something I've never used or have plans of using to kill a gobbler. My suggestion is your the one who has to pay for your actions of what you do in killing gobblers. IMO. Safety first always.
I have yet to have a fan work for me. Tried it a few times and turkey didn't like it.
I watch very few turkey hunting videos. I have enjoyed watching the Denny Gulvas videos on CD I purchased some time back. I did watch one episode of Pinhoti Project because Steve Torman was in it. I was envious of Dave when Steve gave him a striker. I guess I consider turkey hunting and hunting and killing specific gobblers a personal project that I enjoy. I don't know many people near me that like to talk turkey hunting so I enjoy this forum. I enjoy telling and hearing turkey hunting stories. I tried to explain to my wife recently that telling the stories is part of turkey hunting more so than other game I hunt. I get into it, even when I don't kill a turkey because it's still a turkey hunting story. Like reading a good book or listening to someone tell a good story. I say all of this because the YouTube and social media stuff doesn't really interest me personally but I do know many lifetime hunters that bemoan hunting shows that have glorified and "coolified" duck and turkey hunting, mainly because there is more competition for good hunting spots and game. There are new people we don't know in the woods with us using this and that to help them be successful. Things change but the perceptions of that change are different for different folks. So if it's legal and safe I don't bat an eye at what others are doing. My hunting techniques, if you can call them that, are very personal endeavors that I think on a lot. In the end, money is the driving factor behind what we see out there that we like or dislike, whether it be a new turkey vest everyone wants because its durable, comfortable and it has all the pockets in the right places or reaping using the latest reaping gear or an expensive trumpet call that we saw someone on YouTube use. Folks sell stuff to make money. They sell timber and land to developers to make money. I hunted a piece of beautiful property this year that's loaded with turkeys, even though I didn't kill one there. The guy that put me on it said it would be logged soon and I told him that would be it for the turkeys then. But its out of my control so I file it in the "not in my control box" which resides all the other stuff I choose not to worry about. I just move on and do the best I can which I have control over, which ain't much. Not sure why I wrote all of this other than I must be in a writing mood...
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Greg Massey, I like your post, you are 100% correct.
When I was a kid you had something when you had some Winchester Super Double X turkey ammo. Back then hardly No one used a pot call, it was a box or a mouth call. Man I am getting old!
I don't care how people hunt this includes fanning. But I do feel fanning is an unsafe way too hunt.
Like anything that is a hazard we should try to improve or eliminate it. There are so many mistakes, injuries every year that I'm just not sure its worth having fanning in the mix.
My only objection to fanning is the safety aspect.
Quote from: Greg Massey on May 16, 2021, 09:29:36 AM
Do you think Aaron using the fanning was all for the sake of getting a kill on video? If we are going to talk about fanning and doing away with decoy's, then lets also do away with OnX hunt APP also... this mapping system has also contribute to a lot more gobblers being killed. Think about it, fanning, decoys, Onx hunt all of these are aid's in killing gobblers, right alone with TSS and better custom calls etc.. all of these items or some of these items we use as turkey hunter's now a day contributes in more gobblers being killed. Including Social media.. IMO.... Just take a minute and look at that shotgun your carrying, with fancy red dot's, scopes, screw in chokes, shells all again contribute to more gobblers being killed. Back in our early day of hunting we had non of these fancy items, just shotgun, few homemade calls and waiting to turkey hunt. SO we are all caught up in this game of using some kind of aid's in killing more gobblers in my opinion. Do i myself agree with fanning, I will say it's something I've never used or have plans of using to kill a gobbler. My suggestion is your the one who has to pay for your actions of what you do in killing gobblers. IMO. Safety first always.
FACTS!!!!
Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 16, 2021, 09:05:51 AM
Unlike a lot of folks here, I actually really enjoy The Hunting Public typically. And they're all stupid woodsy. If you don't believe that try to consistently spot and stalk mature bedded whitetails. 99.9% of people couldn't do what they're managing to do each fall. Aaron seems to be a super genuine guy. Hell of an outdoorsman. A great advocate for the sport, and more importantly for the bird. That said, they've made mistakes and aren't infallible by any means. There have also been piles of, perhaps unintended, consequences as a result of their popularity. I haven't seen the video this post is referencing but if concealing a movement is the justification given, here's my objection: sometimes the turkey just wins. And that's okay! Matter of fact, that's the best part of it! In the past they've done a great job of not only showing kills, but showing the tough days and the days they get whooped by the quarry. Honestly that's what I enjoy most about them. It ain't all slow mo footage of five yard head shots. The Florida footage at the beginning of this year, they got whooped for days on end, and that's what they aired, them getting whooped. Aaron knows that, so maybe it was just a lapse of judgement. Personally I'd rather watch a good bird pin him down and whoop him than I would him use a fan to get away with things he couldn't get away with otherwise.
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Agreed. When I saw the video and him bring out the fan I just started laughing and said "oh the keyboard cowboys are gonna light him up for that one." :TooFunny:
It didn't bother me a bit. He had it out for just a second to make a turn on the tree as they came in hard to his right. I genuinely believe he was simply trying to hide movement. That guy can kill turkeys more consistently than most of the guys on here I'm willing to bet.
Quote from: lowoctane on May 16, 2021, 07:41:35 AM
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Marketing and sales: where the "sport" is being led? I was mentored by a hunter that stressed abilities over the actual kill. Many times I heard this phrase "that's hunting" when neither of us would bring home our quarry. "What did you learn?" was also said equally to emphasize the importance of growing into my abilities. This season I had the privelage of taking out a 17 year old hunter who has been brought up with the same mindset, and it was a blessing to help him along with his new found passion: turkey hunting. He's already an accomplished deer and duck hunter so he said those words "that's hunting" a few times as we weren't successful in bringing one home with us. He has been brought up to appreciate what all is involved in the hunt and understands the importance of his role in being able to be successful with respect to the final moments of his quarry's life. It's about the hunt: safety, have fun and if you bring one home, that's a plus! I built on his abilities and we had a great time in the woods, safely. I cannot understand how anyone can use a fan safely, much less market these things as a necessary tool for a successful tool. It's like putting on a deer costume during deer season and walking through the woods to me. Utter stupidity and totally irresponsible. :camohat:
Well said.
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Waddell , primos , knight / hale etc didn't use fans when the lst started putting out video either , but they all use them now ! It's all about product and production. They all sold there souls for a dollar ????. The hunting public will go the same route ... just a matter of time . Bank on it .
This is blasphemous, I will stop watching their videos immediately. How dare they occasionally use a fan. I bet they use decoys for ducks too instead of pass shooting them like true sportsmen.
Quote from: Sasha and Abby on May 16, 2021, 07:01:57 AM
decoys and fans, while legal, are just tools for those who cannot kill one by the call. very sad to cheapen the hunt with them...
All encompassing comments and thought processes of exclusion rather than inclusion is what is wrong with social media hunting sites. Plain and simple, too many know it all busy bodies trying to tell everyone else what is the "proper" way to hunt. I guess Native American hunters would tell us unless we kill one with a homemade bow and arrows and a folded blade of grass for a call then we are "cheapening" the hunt. Ridiculous comments by elitists. If it's legal and you feel safe doing it, then do it. Don't let know it all hunters spoil your personal experiences.
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As long as it's legal I'm good with it I say the same thing with the guys that sit in a blind with a flock of decoys knowing the birds come out every day they arnt scared of the blind and just ambushing them but it's legal and that's how they choose to hunt so it's not any of my business to each there own no one has the rite to say anything about how I hunt them as long as it's legal
I've seen THP pass up way too much $$$ in an effort to stay true to their supporters. I seriously doubt they'll cave for money. Aaron knew he'd get flamed for that, but I can assure you that he needs no more help than the best on this site to kill gobblers. He's a true killer.
The butt hurt continues! Carry on!
Hunt the way that makes you happy. What is more important is that WE as the hunting community stop all the in fighting and support our fellow hunters.
Interesting conversation. I enjoy the Hunting Public and appreciate what they have done for the hunting community. I've been hunting since I was 12 years old in 1988. Turkey hunting was still pretty basic with limited calls and your all-purpose shotgun. Sure things have changed over the years, some for the better, some worse. That's how the hunting and fishing world are. I have never used a fan, and never will being I hunt turkeys on public and prefer to come home alive. Yes, there has been a surge in public land hunting in the last couple years, most likely due to the YT craze, but honestly I think the biggest reason is because people are priced off of their old hunting grounds with crazy lease prices. I know I have. Fads come and go, so I don't see many of the people that are just getting into the game due to YT sticking around for long. Give them a couple yeas of unsuccessful hunts and they will be selling off their equipment and entering the next big thing. Hopefully some of these new hunters stick around to keep the sports going now that many of the old timers are stopping to drop off. It's a sad reality, but despite the appearance of all these new people showing up in your favorite hunting spot, most won't be around in a year or two. We really need to recruit and keep some of these people for our futures sake. I know I went off a tangent on the fanning issue, but I see it as just one of the examples of the resistance of many to anything new that may trespass on their well worn ways. I personally love OnX and use it every time in the woods, even though I can read a printed out topo map easily. To me it's the same as saying depth finders or GPS shouldn't be used in fishing. If it helps motivate you to go to places your used to be nervous about and get you home safely, than I'm all for it. But yeah, fanning just seems overly dangerous for me.
If it's legal, safe and you like it....more power to you. I don't have to do what you do, but I'm not going to condemn you for enjoying the sport your way.
I guess the thing I find most interesting about some of these replies is the lack of concern and respect for the turkeys. If it's legal then it's ok? I guess so if all you are worried about if it's legal or not but you are obviously not concerned about the science and biology that has been brought to light in the last couple years regarding dominant toms and breeding. I think fanning and reaping should be outlawed personally and I think it will be a contributing factor to some lean times ahead for turkey hunting.
Personally I didn't have any problem with him using a fan in the video. It's not something I do but it didn't bother me. With that being said I do believe that fanning or reaping or whatever you want to call it, should probably be illegal. It's just too effective and often results in the death of the dominant "field birds" that seem to do much of the breeding. The hunting public are one of the few groups that I will watch on YouTube along with Dave, catman, and Shane Simpson. They are true turkey hunters but I don't expect them to be perfect. I would have preferred them not use the fan but it also didn't really bother me that they did. All of this being said, I think it would probably be best for the turkeys, and eliminate a lot of bad hunters if decoys were outlawed all together. I feel that would have a much greater effect than pushing start dates back
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The But but but but it's legal crowd has crawled out there double bull blinds to speak up !!
Quote from: Bennett on May 17, 2021, 03:49:19 PM
I guess the thing I find most interesting about some of these replies is the lack of concern and respect for the turkeys. If it's legal then it's ok? I guess so if all you are worried about if it's legal or not but you are obviously not concerned about the science and biology that has been brought to light in the last couple years regarding dominant toms and breeding. I think fanning and reaping should be outlawed personally and I think it will be a contributing factor to some lean times ahead for turkey hunting.
Very well said
I would encourage everyone to read "Issues Concerning the Decline of Wild Turkeys by Dr Jim Miller.
Mississippi St University
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I would be for outlawing all decoys 100%. How do we get it done? Whining about it on the innerweb ain't gonna do it.
Quote from: Shiloh on May 17, 2021, 07:33:22 PM
I would be for outlawing all decoys 100%. How do we get it done? Whining about it on the innerweb ain't gonna do it.
. I'm afraid where out numbered my friend ...
I think you are correct!!
Quote from: Bennett on May 17, 2021, 03:49:19 PM
I guess the thing I find most interesting about some of these replies is the lack of concern and respect for the turkeys. If it's legal then it's ok? I guess so if all you are worried about if it's legal or not but you are obviously not concerned about the science and biology that has been brought to light in the last couple years regarding dominant toms and breeding. I think fanning and reaping should be outlawed personally and I think it will be a contributing factor to some lean times ahead for turkey hunting.
This 100%!
Just because it's legal dose not mean it's ethical. What concerns me the most about THP showing this on there channel is it will modivate even more people to do the same. With the already crazy crowds of people on public land someone will possibly get shot. I could just see a kid watching this and thinking because his favorite YouTube hero did it they got to now. Lastly, it really looked like all they cared about in that video was getting a kill on film to promote there channel. Therefore the fan came out!
Hell the next thing I know some YouTube rock star will shoot one off the roost in a video and people will defend it saying " How dare you tell anyone to hunt. if it's legal it's always ok".
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I think spring season should be outlawed
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Quote from: fallhnt on May 17, 2021, 09:49:55 PM
I think spring season should be outlawed
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Don't forget FALL also...
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Quote from: fallhnt on May 17, 2021, 09:49:55 PM
I think spring season should be outlawed
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Don't forget FALL also...
Hey hey ,, simmer down fellas :cowboy:
Quote from: fallhnt on May 17, 2021, 09:49:55 PM
I think spring season should be outlawed
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Back in the 80s, an old timer told me it was cruel to hunt turkeys in the spring, because they're just looking for a little action. :TooFunny:
Quote from: fallhnt on May 17, 2021, 09:49:55 PM
I think spring season should be outlawed
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I thought fall hunting was easier, hand a bunch of them walk right by me, I was just not willing to shoot a hen or the one possible jake in the group.
Not a fan of fanning, but to each his own!
I doubt that video had anyone see it that didn't already know about it, seems I saw a fanning video 15 years ago or so?
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Outrage culture makes me chuckle. Cancel THP! Cancel Dave Owens for crawling up on turkeys! Cancel hunting! (wait, wut?)
Draw a bull's-eye on your face and go to the range. Would never do this!!!
Oh snap.... Enjoy your season. ;)
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
I have no interest in doing this during hunting season, but I would like to try and get one and see how it works for photography before and after the season.
I didn't think it was that big of a deal, I mean he wasn't out crawling up to the bird behind the fan like most do. The worst example of this are the Drurys. Some reason I follow there page on the Facebutt, and I don't believe they've posted a turkey video without them using a fan in the last couple years. Between their love of $3K box blinds over huge foodplots and their constant use of fans for turkeys, strikes me as the "get a kill at all costs" mindset.
I find it funny that 35 years ago when turkey hunting wasn't as popular as it is today if Ben Lee or Preston Pittman had introduced fanning people would have looked for ways to have feathers surgically implanted.
I doubt that. It is not the turkeys that have changed, but the character of too many that are "hunting" them.
Quote from: budtripp on May 30, 2021, 07:22:00 PM
I didn't think it was that big of a deal, I mean he wasn't out crawling up to the bird behind the fan like most do. The worst example of this are the Drurys. Some reason I follow there page on the Facebutt, and I don't believe they've posted a turkey video without them using a fan in the last couple years. Between their love of $3K box blinds over huge foodplots and their constant use of fans for turkeys, strikes me as the "get a kill at all costs" mindset.
Agree 100%