Opinions please. Facts are of course accepted as well... :popcorn:
In the mountains where I hunt I've always found it easier to call a bird up or from the same level. That's not a guarantee just what I've observed to happen more often than not
I prefer to start on top. I will not hesitate to go down in after them if feel the situation calls for it. Shot a bird this spring took me almost 2hrs to get back to the truck. Those ridges get taller and taller as the years go by.
As a starting place, the ridges. Can hear more country. Can walk ridges to different drainages and hear everything. I live in the mountains and have noticed they tend to roost just off and below the ridge most often on the leeward side. That said, wind will push them to the bottoms, rain will some times push them to the bottoms, pressure or food will push them to the bottoms, and sometimes they just want to go to the bottom. In that case, I follow the birds. Last week I was on birds that liked to start high on a creek drainage then work that channel down to the river. They did this every day then worked their way back each evening. Playing them was a matter of recognizing that pattern and getting ahead of them. Lots of birds seem to like to roost high, work low, roost high. Here at the house, a lot of the mountain birds seem to like to roost high, fly low, then work back up the mountain throughout the day to roost high. Striking birds, I'm walking and working a ridgeline. But I'd prefer to have an understanding of their pattern and let that determine where I go.
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I go where the birds go. High for listening. After that they tell me where to be.
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Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 10, 2021, 03:51:26 PM
I go where the birds go. High for listening. After that they tell me where to be.
X2 and i will add depending on the weather conditions. All of this plays a part..
What I have seen in my few years of hunting in the mountains early in the season the birds are lower along the creeks and drainages, these are the first areas to green up and the hens will be down there. As the season progresses and hens become scarce the gobblers will move up running ridges trying to find hens. That said I always try to start high. It's easier to move down to them if needed than try to move up.
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I've always found the mountains a lot easier for me. I like to have a good vantage point where I can hear better. I always like to be above the birds or try to get on the same level as them.
Ridges, better to hear one below you then try to get in front of it. Rather then hear one above you and try to hump up hill to position yourself.
for me they always roost up high and fly down low and stay low, i had one coming last year in a bottom, step incline on both sides and i watched him climb a 90 degree bank at 60 yards and get into a top a flat, i climbed back up the hill and killed him on the flat. you never know what they going to do, but i like to stay on top when i can, way better to carry him out on top of the ridge..
Prefere to start on a ridge or high point. However the game will be played on the ground of his choosing. Its awful hard to convince them to go somewhere they don't want to go.
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Have always killed more bird on the ridge than in the valley, Where I hunt there is more "land" on top, when I hunt a valley they are a wide one, gives me a different hunt. Around where I hunt valleys a pasture in most cases, there are some that a wide/big enough to farm but access can be limiting, as we move away from the river valley it changes where there is more "land" that is bottoms.
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Love the ridges, I always start on top. I like to be above the birds or on his level. I use the rolling ridges to move on him. My experience with these ridge birds is they prefer to come up hill, rather than downhill. There have been some cases where I called him down, but this is rare.They seem to roost 3/4 the way up n most ridges. I find most of them on the Southern (sunny side) of the ridges. That is where the new spring growth comes up first. Be safe...
Obviously, a high point (ridge) will be the best listening place. But I'm ra king my brain to recall one single bird I've killed at home (west PA) that didn't die at LEAST half way up from the bottom. I'm not coming up with one.
First off, let me say that one of my biggest mistakes in my early hunting career was thinking that the bottoms were the place to be at flydown. I had heard turkeys needed to find water, so I always set up in the bottom next to a creek. I would spend the rest of the morning chasing the birds up the hill.
I finally decided to start at the top. We're in the Trans-Bluegrass of Kentucky. We have about 100-200 feet of elevation difference between the creek bottom and the top of the ridge. The turkeys roost about half-way down the sides of the ridges. They pitch down to the uphill side most days and then work their way up to feed. I fill my tags most years either getting them coming to me off the roost or waiting until 9-11 for them to appear in the pastures to feed.
When its cold, especially like it can be in the early season, the coldest air is at the bottom of the ridge. That pocket of cold air can stay until mid-morning. The turkeys want warmer drier air first thing, so they tend to gravitate to the top of the hill and catch the sun. Down in the bottom it can be 8 F colder than the top. Believe me, I sat freezing my butt off enough mornings to know. What's more, it'll tend to fog up in the bottoms and the fog will stay longer. All this is not to a turkey's liking.
Prefer ridges. My experience is that it's easier to call them up hill (I think they like to get to the tops so they can have the advantage of using their vision to it's full potential)
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