#9 tss is equivilant to lead #5. So what would #7 tss compare to in lead?
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At least a 30-06
Dead :OGturkeyhead:
I have 7.5 TSS, along with a different load of 8X9TSS, both for a 10gauge. Both shoot 2 5/8 oz, but the 7.5 is much more impressive. On the other hand, the pellet count is unreal on the 8X9..
If your shooting 40 couple yards, it doesn't matter a bit.
Contact Hal Abbot, he has his own TSS forum and has all kinds of ballistics for TSS, basically you will run out of pattern before lethality.
Number 9 patterns run out to just shy of it's lethality if I remember correctly.
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I would love to load some 3in 7.5s for shooting ducks. I imagine it would be very lethal...
Quote from: WV Flopper on April 08, 2021, 10:17:50 PM
Dead :OGturkeyhead:
I have 7.5 TSS, along with a different load of 8X9TSS, both for a 10gauge. Both shoot 2 5/8 oz, but the 7.5 is much more impressive. On the other hand, the pellet count is unreal on the 8X9..
If your shooting 40 couple yards, it doesn't matter a bit.
I use Hal's 2 1/2 oz recipe in 10 ga. Who came up with the 2 5/8 oz recipe? Havent heard about it but want to try it.
Quote from: deadbuck on April 09, 2021, 10:45:01 AM
Quote from: WV Flopper on April 08, 2021, 10:17:50 PM
Dead :OGturkeyhead:
I have 7.5 TSS, along with a different load of 8X9TSS, both for a 10gauge. Both shoot 2 5/8 oz, but the 7.5 is much more impressive. On the other hand, the pellet count is unreal on the 8X9..
If your shooting 40 couple yards, it doesn't matter a bit.
I use Hal's 2 1/2 oz recipe in 10 ga. Who came up with the 2 5/8 oz recipe? Havent heard about it but want to try it.
Sounds like a load that was developed by the military.
If you are hunting turkeys anything lower that a #9 is overkill and 1 5/8 oz. is plenty. If 500 # 9 is not enough then you are shooting to far.
Quote from: Fieldturkey on April 08, 2021, 09:37:59 PM
At least a 30-06
Ha ha, that's the first time in a long while that someone has made me laugh on here
What is this TSS I keep hearing about :TooFunny:
I just but some cheap $10 loads and kill turkeys... If I could find my pheasant loads again I'd buy a bunch of those $20 for 25 shells and they work.
MK M GOBL
Quote from: MK M GOBL on April 09, 2021, 09:19:14 PM
What is this TSS I keep hearing about :TooFunny:
I just but some cheap $10 loads and kill turkeys... If I could find my pheasant loads again I'd buy a bunch of those $20 for 25 shells and they work.
MK M GOBL
Tsss works better when you get past 20 yards. Puts smaller holes in the expensive decoys tooo. ;D ;D
Quote from: owlhoot on April 09, 2021, 09:47:17 PM
Quote from: MK M GOBL on April 09, 2021, 09:19:14 PM
What is this TSS I keep hearing about :TooFunny:
I just but some cheap $10 loads and kill turkeys... If I could find my pheasant loads again I'd buy a bunch of those $20 for 25 shells and they work.
MK M GOBL
Tsss works better when you get past 20 yards. Puts smaller holes in the expensive decoys tooo. ;D ;D
Winchester "Rooster" loads work very well, if you can find them!
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Quote from: ol bob on April 09, 2021, 12:34:42 PM
If you are hunting turkeys anything lower that a #9 is overkill and 1 5/8 oz. is plenty. If 500 # 9 is not enough then you are shooting to far.
I thought we went to TSS so we could tote lighter guns and not have our faces torn off with recoil, lol. I say stuff that 10 banger with as many #7 as possible and try an ostrich or a giraffe. Giraffes are birds right :OGturkeyhead:
Quote from: agent eight seven O on April 08, 2021, 04:45:23 PM
#9 tss is equivilant to lead #5. So what would #7 tss compare to in lead?
Deductive logic says between a #2-#4
I guess i dont under stand the math /logic here. why is tss #9 equivalent to lead #5 ? I thought #9 tss is lethal much farther than lead #5. what am i missing?
The comments about pheasant loads made me laugh. A couple years ago I found a case (250 round count) of Federal Prairie Storm pheasant loads for $69.00. They were normally $225.00. I bought them and they patterned really well out of one of my 870's with a Ventilator choke tube so I tried them one season on turkeys. Killed two birds hammer dead! At 28 cents per round, not a bad deal. Mostly use LongBeards now but it just shows that quality lead rounds still work. Turkeys heads have not developed a helmet yet! :OGturkeyhead:
Quote from: strum on April 10, 2021, 09:58:10 AM
I guess i dont under stand the math /logic here. why is tss #9 equivalent to lead #5 ? I thought #9 tss is lethal much farther than lead #5. what am i missing?
TSS 9s pattern holds up to much longer distances even if lethality were the same per pellet. In a 12ga out to 40yds TSS has little benefit in my opinion, now in sub gauge guns it is a night and day difference, I started handloading to get onto the 20ga game and immediately had a more effective gun with a lil 1 5/8th load than any load up to 2 1/4 oz I have ever had, not even close actually.
If I started over I would probably go 28ga, though I got a smoking deal on my 20 though.
Currently looking at loading an 1 1/4 instead of 1 5/8ths, even in the 20 that load holds up way farther than I would shoot at a turkey!
Quote from: strum on April 10, 2021, 09:58:10 AM
I guess i dont under stand the math /logic here. why is tss #9 equivalent to lead #5 ? I thought #9 tss is lethal much farther than lead #5. what am i missing?
Two factors play into this equation, 1. Pellet count per ounce (TSS #9-362 vs lead #5-172) 2. TSS is denser (which retains kinetic energy longer). Here's the math, since a 2 ounce load of #9 TSS has 724 pellets in it compared to 344 #5 lead and TSS is denser which retains kinetic energy longer and if the velocity is the same in each shell (let's say 1200 FPS), the TSS pellets will retain their energy farther down range and put more pellets on target then lead, with the right choke. The lead loads pattern will fall apart much sooner and lose kinetic much quicker than TSS.