Any specific advice on osceolas? I have killed plenty of rios, eastern and merriams but am FINALLY booked on a osceola hunt for '13 and i am excited. thanks in advance for any advice
Not really much different than hunting other species. They just generally inhabit swampier terrain. Some say they gobble less, but that has definitely not been the case in my experiences. The majority of gobblers we encounter there do tend to roost over some type of water. They love roosting in cypress domes.
If you've "booked" a hunt just shoot when the guide tells you to.
Quote from: Mark K on June 13, 2012, 05:02:39 PM
If you've "booked" a hunt just shoot when the guide tells you to.
I am pretty sure that Rokhal07 was talking about booking a turkey hunt - not a turkey shoot. Your comment comes off as a little rude. Sounds as thought the guy is excited to finally hunt osceolas - I would be as well. If you have something productive to add - great. Otherwise - I think you know the rest.
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I've never hunted them either. If and when I do the only thing I plan to different is bring more water and a extra therma cell. Good luck on your hunt.
Tagging an Osceola requires a little more patience than some sub-species . They do gobble good in the mornings but when they go quiet , the best choice is to wait them out . Alot of them will come in silent but on the search so sit still , keep your eyes open , shoot straight . Use a blind if possible .Have a great trip !
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on June 13, 2012, 04:34:51 PM
Not really much different than hunting other species. They just generally inhabit swampier terrain. Some say they gobble less, but that has definitely not been the case in my experiences. The majority of gobblers we encounter there do tend to roost over some type of water. They love roosting in cypress domes.
my thoughts exactly, just another turkey, what makes him unique is his enviornment.
I am quite aware of what he wrote, I can read! Every Osceola hunt I've looked at said guaranteed shot at adult bird...hence the shoot when your guide tells you to. If he's booked a hunt then he should be on private ground which according to what I've read on this site should really up the odds as well. After all, it's the pressure of the thousands of hunters that flock to Florida's public land that make the Osceola one of the toughest to take. The bird is still a turkey and if they were as plentiful as the eastern then everyone would have taken one.
BTW, what did you add that was productive to this?? Other than attempting to butt in to someones post??
Trust me, if I had a couple grand to book a hunt I would!! And when the guide said shoot, I'd shoot!!
Thanks for most of the responses. Ive hunted and killed on public and private guided and unguided hunts for the other sunspecies and like most everyone else have had good and bad luck both ways. Just wondering if there were any differences other than the obvious "common knowledge". If nothing else at least I know when to shoot now.
Who did you book with?
Its a guy southwest of orlando. Semi guided not a "tie one up for you" kind of deal.
Good luck to you!!
I went this year unguided and 4 of us killed. I hunt swamp easterns in SC, so it was not all that different. The best advice I got was to "hunt em like you hunt a turkey". Some of em have these. (http://img.tapatalk.com/aefdb979-8ed8-6108.jpg)
Nice!! Love the spurs!
Dang what a set of spurs!
I've hunted Easterns in similar habitat. The Osceola is a different bird if you get down in FL well below that line the NWTF pulled out of the air. They're harder to pick out of the shadows because they are darker and skinnier. If they are slipping in and standing tall, well you know how that goes...
I've seen jennies that looked like they were the size of chickens. They eat more corn out of backyards. If you call to them in the tree, they're more apt to stay up there on into the day. Folks say they fly down later. I think its just that it takes longer to see the ground well down in a swamp. They seem to gobble at a lower frequency to carry further in the swamp. That makes them seem quieter. Oh, and when a flock of hens gets upland I think they make more noise than Easterns scratching in leaves. I base that on having them feed around me while up a tree in the fall. Easterns are quiet in comparison.
Thanks Mark K. and thanks for the spurs pic swamprunner thats what gets me going. Howl thats the kind of info im after..stuff I wouldnt think of not having hunted in Fla before. I appreciate that
Most situations involving Florida turkey hunting in the true Osceola core range - is flat like a pancake
that being said - the gobblers have a tendency to sit up on the roost and gobble and gobble then shut up when the hit the ground {most of the time} this is a issue cause they are on the roost and can see you move in on them from a mile away , and when they hit the ground , you have no idea where they are or if they are even coming or going - some terrain is wide open like cattle country and your hunt is about done by 8 oclock in the morning if you hunting wide open terrain and too far
Best thing in this situation is to roost the birds and try and situate yourself the next morning with the vantage point of knowing what general area the gobbler is roosted , you dont want to be in a situation where the sun comes up.... the gobbler is 800 yards away across a cow pasture or opening on top of a 80 foot tall pine tree , he is hot and gobbling , and gobbling , you cannot close in on any gobbler in this situation , you want to be with in reasonably close calling distance n the morning , and that will require you to do some roosting every afternoon
good advice old gobbler. part of the roosting is gonna be on the guide i guess for the first morning anyway
Osceolas live in all kinds of terrain, from creek bottoms to ridgetops. I've hunted them in places miles from the nearest swamp(they do like water though,diches,ponds,creeks,etc.).
They do tend to be less vocal than Easterns. The best bet is to wait them out. I've had them come in silently at noon to my decoy set.
FYI, a lot of guided hunts are semi-guided, which usually means you just have access to a property, the rest is on you.Good luck.
:fud: Everything that I`ve read hear is * * * spot on * * * :OGani:
As stated earlier, public land can be tough because of hunter pressure. My best advice is to try to hunt the harder to reach areas. Wading through swamps, long treks across palmetto flats or even water access. Last year a buddy and I hunted a non-quota WMA and came in by boat. We did not hear another hunter and headed back to the boat on the opener with a bird slung over both our shoulders. I couldn't make it the next morning due to a family emergency but my buddy finished up his season by 10:00am with gobbler #2. Good luck. :icon_thumright:
Hunt the last part of the season. Pressure is low if any and still plenty of gobbling birds.
Fill your vest full of free oranges! Eat local shrimp and oysters! Turkey hunt hard some come easier than others! Take the best light weight optics you can get. Use the most realistic decoys you can. Have something in your vest to cut with to use natural plants for blind material. Buy good waterproof comfortable boots. Thermacell can be a must at times. Don't be afraid to focus on a bird vs all the birds....you will find a lot of gobblers that tend to use certain field open areas at exact times and they tend to like the middle so don't be afraid to have to shoot a little longer distance spend time with your gun before you go. I think the biggest challenge is the terrain being you will not know it very well. Listen to your guide! They are there more than you are so put faith in them if you did your research before you booked it. Never hunted any other ground but private and it was a friends ranch no guides etc just KY boys turkey hunting in FL....Watch/scout/hunt the most you can while you are there and you will be find....it's not the bang that makes the hunt!
patience and more patience I would love to go back someday. Good luck
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Great advice so far! I live in south-central Florida so most of my birds are Osceola's, although I do try to get at least one Eastern each year as well. Having said that, my advice is this: don't forget to enjoy yourself while you are here. Don't get so caught up in the whole idea of having to kill because you traveled XXXX miles and paid $XXXX. You will be in a great area I'm sure, and your guide or landowner will give you some good tips. And you are a good turkey hunter already, you will do fine, Osceola's are still turkeys afterall. But this part of Florida is too beautiful and the Osceola's are too majestic not to notice and appreciate all that is going on around you. Take time to smell the orange blossoms, get lots of good photos, ask questions, look around, eat at local restaurants, learn about the local, and go home with some good stories, not just the fan and long spurs :) You will get one.
Thanks for the encouragement! Its gettin closer and closer
find and keep a buckeye in your pocket....it 's an easy way to get around all this complicated mess...... :mask:
In my experience if you strike a bird early and he's hot but goes quiet shortly after......keep your butt still. They tend not to be very vocal after fly down. Also the terrain can make it hard to move on birds so make sure you are familiar with the area and know where you can move and where you can't. Often times you will find yourself on the wrong side of a swamp or thicket with no way around.
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