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Title: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: WW on June 10, 2021, 06:00:48 PM
I patterned a benelli ultra light today and at 40 yards, it shot to the right about 5-6 inches and 6 inches low. Can this be corrected so that I can shoot it with the factory bead? I like the bead and don't want optics unless it's a must. Just wondering if shims or anything else will correct the point of impact..
Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on June 11, 2021, 11:07:31 AM
If you want to take the time and spend the money you might stumble upon a choke / shell combo that will shoot closer to POA.  Other than that aim high left or add adjustable sights or some sort of optics.

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Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: Tom007 on June 11, 2021, 11:23:59 AM
Someone on another thread mentioned look at magazine tube for straightness. Tighten magazine cap if it's seems straight....little experimenting there worked for him.....good luck.....
Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: SumToy on June 11, 2021, 01:21:27 PM
you bend mag tube not barrel to get it to shoot Poa/Poi
Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: Kyle_Ott on June 15, 2021, 10:03:38 PM
Quote from: WW on June 10, 2021, 06:00:48 PM
I patterned a benelli ultra light today and at 40 yards, it shot to the right about 5-6 inches and 6 inches low. Can this be corrected so that I can shoot it with the factory bead? I like the bead and don't want optics unless it's a must. Just wondering if shims or anything else will correct the point of impact..

The issue with Benelli POA/POI is not the straightness of the barrel or any other fallacy.  It's simply that Benelli does a poor job installing their magazine tubes; many of them are not truly centered to the receiver.  When you screw the magazine cap down tightly onto the barrel ring, it tightens the barrel against the mag tube and it pulles the barrel in the direction of the misalignment. 

There are countless conversations about this with the professional 3 gun shooters on brianenos.com. One of the former Benelli shooters even developed a jig to true up the M2 12 ga mag tubes for resolving this issue.  They did not develop a jig for the 20s because 20s aren't use in 3 gun but I'm sure it could be done. 

The easiest way to fix this is to simply and GENTLY, bend the magazine tube in the direction you need the pattern to go.  Minor adjustments go a long way when you're doing this so don't be overzealous.  Simple fix.

Enjoy your gun and goodluck.
Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: Ihuntoldschool on June 16, 2021, 01:06:00 AM
I would bend the barrel first if it was mine before I bent my mag tube.  Just a suggestion but it's your gun.  Elevation can be fixed with a different height bead, or even a file .
Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: PALongspur on June 18, 2021, 03:02:56 PM
Quote from: Ihuntoldschool on June 16, 2021, 01:06:00 AM
I would bend the barrel first if it was mine before I bent my mag tube.  Just a suggestion but it's your gun.  Elevation can be fixed with a different height bead, or even a file .

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Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: Bingoman206 on June 26, 2021, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: SumToy on June 11, 2021, 01:21:27 PM
you bend mag tube not barrel to get it to shoot Poa/Poi
Do you mean put a bend in the tube or tilt the tube off the reciever?
Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: lowoctane on June 27, 2021, 07:51:21 AM
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Huh. Spend all that money for a Benelli and get that kind of quality control..?   :camohat:
Title: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: Meleagris gallopavo on June 27, 2021, 07:14:28 PM
I have POI/POA issues with several of the guns I have, including Benellis.  That's why I only use a red dot anymore.  I treat my turkey guns like deer rifles.


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Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: Jstocks on September 01, 2021, 07:33:03 AM
Different chokes, loads will definitely pattern differently. I've seen as much as 8" difference between an 1 3/8 oz load and a 2 1/8 oz load in a Remington 870 youth. The heavier load had a similar velocity tested data, but shot low and right. This showed itself one day while hunting a buddy of mine learned two lessons at the same time.
Called in 2 gobblers and I whiffed with the 410 (learned after investigating that you must split the petals (wad was Pre slit, but not verified before loading and petals were still connected on wad batch). Second gobbler runs out and stops and he shoots at him at 40 yards, hits in the dirt (wet dirt road) behind the turkey twice!
We went home disgusted and did some investigating. Anytime I change loads, or load choke combos.

I have an older Benelli and it shoots low with the load/choke I like to shoot. I am going to look into this mag tube information.
Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: SumToy on September 01, 2021, 10:14:08 AM
You bend the barrel you throw a curve ball.   You move the mag tube VERY little you move a straight line.
Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: perrytrails on September 01, 2021, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: SumToy on September 01, 2021, 10:14:08 AM
You bend the barrel you throw a curve ball.   You move the mag tube VERY little you move a straight line.
Makes total sense. If anyone would know it's Mr Sumtoy.

I've owned a bunch of shotguns. Seen this a few times myself. Once on a Winchester 1300 and a Benelli M2.
Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: RND1983 on September 01, 2021, 12:32:46 PM
Great information here by William. I mentioned this to a buddy who has had huge issues with Benelli shooting straight and he was floored.
Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: the Ward on September 02, 2021, 12:12:11 PM
Quote from: SumToy on September 01, 2021, 10:14:08 AM
You bend the barrel you throw a curve ball.   You move the mag tube VERY little you move a straight line.
That is a great way of explaining it. You the man!
Title: Re: Benelli info/help (poi)
Post by: Jc69 on September 02, 2021, 01:57:01 PM
I'm not familiar with the ultralight and I'm not familiar with the shim kit, so i'm probably not going to be any help  ???  ...............but, My Supernova came with a shim kit and it has a raised comb feature.  I'm not familiar with this, but I "think" you can shim it to adjust your up and down and right to left?  I've never messed with mine but I thought that is what the shim kit is for?  If so, I'd think the ultralight would have this as as well or you get use a shim kit off a supernova??