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Title: TFT
Post by: allaboutshooting on July 09, 2021, 07:44:09 PM
TFT is a new organization, at least for me. What I have read however makes me give a lot of thought to the current turkey health in our country. I thought you might find it interesting.
Thanks,
Clark

https://www.turkeysfortomorrow.org/post/if-not-you-then-who
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: bobk on July 09, 2021, 07:49:57 PM
Interesting read. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Sir-diealot on July 09, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
I know several people online that have joined, several from this forum and others from Facebook. I intend to join myself once I know what is going on with this possible move. Seems like a decent organization.
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Tail Feathers on July 09, 2021, 09:34:33 PM
Jim Spencer, noted author and biologist is one of the founders.  His love of all things turkey will be an asset to the group.
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Mossberg90MN on July 10, 2021, 02:22:59 AM
I joined. If I remember correctly it seems like most efforts seem to be focused around the South East. But as someone who's a Turkey conservationist, I don't mind making a donation so we can have Turkeys for tomorrow.


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Title: Re: TFT
Post by: El Pavo Grande on July 10, 2021, 09:50:48 AM
I joined after reviewing the material on their website and the linked articles.  The message they present and the concerns they have for the populations and the future of turkey hunting seem to align with my personal views as well.  From what I've read they bypass a lot of the fluff and want to address some issues head on and that's what we need at this point.  I'm not sure of the overall perspective outside the south east region of the country, but the decline here is real and it's troubling.  With many organizers of the TFT being from this region, and even my state, I feel like they truly have an understanding of the situation at hand and a vested interest in the cause. 
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: grayfox on July 10, 2021, 11:06:26 AM
Thanks for posting this.
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: allaboutshooting on July 10, 2021, 07:05:01 PM
You're welcome. Happy to do it.
Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: 762hunter on July 10, 2021, 07:58:49 PM
Good read


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Title: Re: TFT
Post by: GobbleGitr on July 11, 2021, 09:45:29 AM
For sure turkeys (and therefore turkey hunters) need all the help they can get to ensure a bright tomorrow.  A research based organization that is not a membership based model should help funnel some additional great funds towards field work and study that is 100% turkey
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Gooserbat on July 12, 2021, 06:00:42 PM
Already on it. 
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Jimspur on July 12, 2021, 06:38:54 PM
I went on the TFT website last night and read everything that was on
there. One thing that stood out was if you click on news on the top bar,
they have 5 articles on there from Dec. 29, 2020 to Mar. 10, 2021.
No articles have been added since Mar. 10th. One of the articles was
called "Quarterly Newsletter" written by Jim Spencer on Jan. 31, 2021.
It's been over 5 months since then.

I also clicked on events on the top bar. On that page they have
Wild Turkey News, which shows dates of radio shows, podcasts, and
regulations changes. All 4 things they have listed are from
2-20-21 to 2-28-21.

So we have no articles written since Mar. 10, 2021 and no information
put into Wild Turkey News since 2-28-21. It's like nothing has been
added to that website since Mar. 10, 2021. It did look like they had a
turkey survey on there that ended on July 1, 2021.

Are they not using their website anymore and just using Facebook
to put information and news on.
I ask this because I don't do Facebook.

Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Shiloh on July 12, 2021, 08:54:05 PM
I had the same questions.  I'm not a fakebooker either. 
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Jimspur on July 12, 2021, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: Shiloh on July 12, 2021, 08:54:05 PM
I had the same questions.  I'm not a fakebooker either.

Hopefully someone will chime in and let us know.
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Greg Massey on July 12, 2021, 09:52:54 PM
Well maybe we can still get discount on bag of coffee.
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Jimspur on July 12, 2021, 10:14:43 PM
Ok - so it looks like they are on Fakebook. There are lots of posts on their
Fakebook page. I put TFT turkeys for tomorrow in the search engine
and clicked on their Fakebook link. I saw the Backwoods Grind coffee  donation deal on there.


Title: Re: TFT
Post by: GobbleNut on July 12, 2021, 11:28:18 PM
I certainly hope TFT is the real deal in terms of trying to organize turkey hunters into an entity that focuses on solving the problems turkeys are facing in a lot of areas.  The fact is, though, that they are doing a piss-poor job of getting the word out about themselves,...which is very concerning to me if they are seriously looking to become a force in wild turkey management. 

I sent them a message months ago with some questions regarding their intentions and have yet to receive a response.  Furthermore, as far as I am aware, Old Gobbler is the largest turkey hunting forum on the internet. Yet, we have not seen one post by any of the leaders of TFT here promoting the organization and giving us information about their goals and objectives.  Combine that with the statements about how they have not updated their site recently and/or have become more visible in "cyberspace" and other media outlets and I personally have questions about how serious they might be. 

Good intentions are great, but it will take much more than that to get things done.  So far, I have seen little to indicate to me that they have the initiative to do what it takes to become a viable organization.  Perhaps they have just not had time to get their ducks in a row.  We shall see.  In the meantime, I am in a holding pattern about them. 

Rest assured I will pledge my support, both financially and otherwise, as soon as I am convinced that they are deserving of it.  As of right now, I am not.  Then again, perhaps one of the leaders of TFT will see this and come on here and convince me....   :angel9:
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Greg Massey on July 12, 2021, 11:46:11 PM
Quote from: GobbleNut on July 12, 2021, 11:28:18 PM
I certainly hope TFT is the real deal in terms of trying to organize turkey hunters into an entity that focuses on solving the problems turkeys are facing in a lot of areas.  The fact is, though, that they are doing a piss-poor job of getting the word out about themselves,...which is very concerning to me if they are seriously looking to become a force in wild turkey management. 

I sent them a message months ago with some questions regarding their intentions and have yet to receive a response.  Furthermore, as far as I am aware, Old Gobbler is the largest turkey hunting forum on the internet. Yet, we have not seen one post by any of the leaders of TFT here promoting the organization and giving us information about their goals and objectives.  Combine that with the statements about how they have not updated their site recently and/or have become more visible in "cyberspace" and other media outlets and I personally have questions about how serious they might be. 

Good intentions are great, but it will take much more than that to get things done.  So far, I have seen little to indicate to me that they have the initiative to do what it takes to become a viable organization.  Perhaps they have just not had time to get their ducks in a row.  We shall see.  In the meantime, I am in a holding pattern about them. 

Rest assured I will pledge my support, both financially and otherwise, as soon as I am convinced that they are deserving of it.  As of right now, I am not.  Then again, perhaps one of the leaders of TFT will see this and come on here and convince me....   :angel9:
X2 great post and i agree with you.. I'm waiting also...
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Jimspur on July 12, 2021, 11:58:18 PM
It's disconcerting to see no real activity on their website since last March.
They have good information on their website as far as how money will
be used etc., but it appears that there's not much follow through.

It says on the site that they met initially in June of 2020. That's only
13 months ago. I don't know much about how long it takes to get an
organization up and running. Maybe it's dependent on how much money
they have raised.

I'm also going to be on the fence until I see a little more action than
some posts on Fakebook.


Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Jim K on July 13, 2021, 06:32:01 AM
I heard about TFT on here awhile ago so I joined. Haven't heard anything from them since. Doesn't look good!
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: AndyH on July 13, 2021, 11:38:56 AM
When and if they bring some attention to the northern states I will support them all I can. The southern states aren't the only areas facing problems


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Title: Re: TFT
Post by: joeturkey on July 13, 2021, 12:38:15 PM
Horrible  looking  logo
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Shoregobbler on July 13, 2021, 05:21:30 PM
I joined a couple of months ago. I received a letter outlining the organizations intentions and a small decal. Also filled out a survey on line. Heard nothing since. Don't give up on the NWTF. They are the proven product and have a great history in turkey management. Lets hope they can straighten out their problems and help with wild turkey population decrease across the country.
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: GobbleNut on July 14, 2021, 09:23:36 AM
Quote from: Shoregobbler on July 13, 2021, 05:21:30 PM
Don't give up on the NWTF. They are the proven product and have a great history in turkey management. Lets hope they can straighten out their problems and help with wild turkey population decrease across the country.

I agree that the NWTF would be the chosen vehicle for turkey hunters if the organization would return to its roots and original focus and mission.  Unfortunately, as I stated previously, they have painted themselves into a corner financially and I'm not sure they have a way out of it at this point.   Quite honestly, they have transitioned from focusing on helping wild turkeys into a social organization for whoever they can attract that they think they might be able to pull a few dollars out of. 

In my opinion, the best thing that could happen to NWTF would be to liquidate all the financial baggage the organization has saddled themselves with, admit to themselves that they took a wrong turn, and start over from scratch by going back to the original mission.  That would require some hard choices that probably,...no, DEFINITELY,...wouldn't sit well with those that are happy with the current status quo, but that is realistically the only way for them to regain the trust of the masses of turkey hunters who have lost faith in NWTF and pulled their support.

How does that relate to TFT?  The history of NWTF should give the leadership of TFT a road map of how to become an affective organization now, while at the same time avoiding the pitfalls that befell NWTF over time.  If they are serious about what they have started, they have already contemplated that and made a commitment not to go that route. 

Right now is the perfect storm for TFT.  Turkey populations are struggling,...and turkey hunters are clamoring to do something to help them out.  The leadership of TFT just needs to do a much better job of taking advantage of that situation if they are to be successful. 


Title: Re: TFT
Post by: Chordeiles on July 16, 2021, 01:04:38 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut on July 12, 2021, 11:28:18 PM


Rest assured I will pledge my support, both financially and otherwise, as soon as I am convinced that they are deserving of it.  As of right now, I am not.  Then again, perhaps one of the leaders of TFT will see this and come on here and convince me....   :angel9:
This is pretty much where I'm at as well. Keeping an eye on them.
Title: Re: TFT
Post by: RND1983 on July 18, 2021, 08:13:17 PM
It's been pretty quiet from them lately.