Hello all... New guy here, not new to hunting, but new to turkey hunting.
I've picked up a box call and have been listening to the local birds and videos and practicing.
My question is with all the different sounds the toms and the hens make, is there a particular order that they use those sounds, do they switch from one to another one in a specific order? Or is it based on what's going on in that moment?
Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.
Cheers!
By far, the most common turkey communication is yelping. That can be done in a variety of volumes, lengths, and intensities depending on the circumstances. There are other sounds turkeys make, but until you understand their application in turkey calling, it is usually best to just keep to yelping. The vast majority of turkeys that are called in come to callers doing nothing more than yelping to them.
That's not to say that there are not circumstances and situations that knowing other turkey vocalizations, and when to use them, are important. Until you have enough experience and calling ability, however, I would suggest sticking to basic yelping. It is the universal turkey language.
Welcome to the site and to turkey hunting. I would add try to get their cadence or speed in witch they call down as best you can, you don't want to sound natural.
Thanks for the input guys, I don't want to overthink it and try and do too much and not sound natural.
I'll pay attention more to their cadence and see if I can duplicate it as best I can.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 22, 2019, 10:25:52 PM
Welcome to the site and to turkey hunting. I would add try to get their cadence or speed in witch they call down as best you can, you don't want to sound natural.
Realizing that this statement is a typo,...just want to clarify that you DO want to sound natural. ;D
Quote from: GobbleNut on February 22, 2019, 10:39:41 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 22, 2019, 10:25:52 PM
Welcome to the site and to turkey hunting. I would add try to get their cadence or speed in witch they call down as best you can, you don't want to sound natural.
Realizing that this statement is a typo,...just want to clarify that you DO want to sound natural. ;D
LOL yes you do, I left out the "un" in unnatural. Thanks for catching that.
Just understand that turkeys have a language and never vocalize without a reason and other turkeys understand what is being said.
When I started I always wanted to know how I sounded, if you have a video camera (cell phone might work???) and set it out 30 yards - 50 yards from you in the timber, field or whatever your hunting conditions are like and record your calling. run your series and critique yourself from there.
*Learn the basics Yelp, Purr and Cluck and can build everything else from there.
Calling rhythm is the important part of this and the inflection of what you are "saying" will come with practice.
MK M GOBL
Listen to turkeys and you will eventually be able to tell their mood from their calling...volume, excitement, intensity. At first, you WILL have to think things through, but hopefully, with experience you will just "talk" to them without a thought about it.
Yes it does matter whats going on at that moment.A cluck can be a contact call other birds a sound of contentment.The situation dictates what that sound means.Kind of like the word aloha it can mean hello or good bye.The bird your calling to does not know your situation so a soft yelp or cluck is always a good start.I dont think what one you start with matters as long as its realistic.Good Luck
One of your best friends in learning about turkey calling, hunting, etc. is YouTube. It's not only very informative, it's free! I use it all the time when learning about a calling technique that's new to me like the wing bone yelper, nail call, etc. Best of luck in your venture!
The cluck and purr are 2 of the most underrated calls. Bubba
Some good advice given.
There are a number of YouTube videos of live hens making sounds. Look at those videos and try to call along with them.
Yelping is the most common call and likely the easiest call to learn. Light clucks are deadly. All too often, less is more with calling. As a general rule, call as little as you need and as much as you have to...
Often if you get a bird to respond, and he sounds excited... Stop calling. The more you call the more he expects the hen (i.e. you) to go to him.
A henless amorous tom can be an easy mark. A tom with hens is going to be tough to call in.
https://youtu.be/htsEZa3iLgA
Scroll through the series... Jason Cruise does a pretty good job of explaining calls and turkey language. He's got some for the box call, too.
https://youtu.be/TlbDES4Zdy4
Listen to live turkey sound files. Florida wildlife resource commission has some good ones on their site of real hens and gobblers spring and fall sounds. Watch some of the old school guys videoes and alot can be learned. Like the early ultimate spring stuff from knight and hale, early primos truth series stuff, hs strutt vids with Eddie Salter comes to mind. I don't call like David Hale nor do I use a push pull call, but he made it a point in their early ultimate spring videos to prove that his tactics work and he is no competition caller by no means but they know how to turkey hunt imho.
I agree with everyone. I would say first learn to yelp with varying volumes and lengths. I also agree cadence is important. If all you can do is yelp effectively you will kill turkeys. Second I would say learn to cluck. Clucks are a large part of turkey language and can mean many things. A hard sharp cluck can be a challenge or a locator. You'll hear gobblers do it when they get close and want the hen to show herself or they will do it to another gobbler as a warning. Purrs are the same way. If you hang around feeding flocks you will hear a lot of soft almost unhearable purring. It's a content call that also keeps the flock together. On the other hand it also says I am pissed and someone is getting their arse kicked when delivered hard and fast. In the spring woods think faster. If you've listened to flocks through the fall and winter they communicate differently. In the spring hens pick it up a notch and calling is more emphatic. However as season goes on the language slows down and returns to the off season slower and softer calling, so start your season hitting that box hard and slower and softer as season ends.
Some of the deadliest calls aren't even made by a call. I've seen birds unintentionally called in with no call. Best advise I have is don't worry about trying to sound like a competition caller unless you plan on calling competitively. As stated before, simplicity in calling is more than enough to kill birds. Good luck and have fun.
I will agree that you do not have to sound like a competition caller to kill birds. I am living proof of that. However I don't see that as an excuse to not practice and become as proficient as you can with several calls. Practice and gain some confidence, even call to some birds that can't be hunted if you have any spots like that. "Live" practice can go a long ways to making you a proficient caller and hunter. All my boys have been drug out behind my house to call in gobblers that I have never hunted. I have permission but I just like hearing them all spring. It's great training.
Quote from: SteelerFan on February 24, 2019, 05:50:27 PM
https://youtu.be/htsEZa3iLgA
Scroll through the series... Jason Cruise does a pretty good job of explaining calls and turkey language. He's got some for the box call, too.
https://youtu.be/TlbDES4Zdy4
There's no doubt Jason is a good turkey hunter, but he really lost me with his "cluck and purr" no good narrative. Turkeys cluck and purr together ALL the time. They do it when feeding contently, which is generally what you as a hunter are using to calm the gobbler and coax him the last few yards.
Yelp to get his attention. After that. Purr and scratch the leaves. Be very careful with the cluck. One slip of the tongue and you go from cluck, to puck to, #uck. And just made a danger call. Yelp and purr are your best.
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