Have you guys ordered any yet? I hear that they're awesome... thinking of getting a "trial" box.
Got a buddy that bought up some 3inch #9s for his 20. Certainly look great on paper.
I would like to try them also as there is a lot of hype. What size is recommended for a 12 Gauge?
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS FOR 20g
I could some very derogatory remarks , but I will settle for "It's your money".
I could make some very derogatory remnarks , but I will settle for "It's your money".
They have it in .410 too. Just in time for Fall turkey.
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I spoke to Robert McCormick one of the lead guys at Apex about the loads. Obviously TSS is meant for sub gauges, but they do offer 3.5 inch 2.25oz loads for 12 gauges. I agree with him in that anything they offer in a 12 is overkill, but if that's all you have shotgun wise then their 3 inch 2oz 12 gauge load is more than enough. I plan to try it when I finish my 20 gauge 870 youth build.
They have done a great job marketing that everyone can kill a turkey no matter how close it is.
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Just roll your own. Not anything anyone cannot do.
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I don't have the equipment to roll my own. $25 for five .410 shells is a good deal imo. Only need 3 for this Fall.
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Well at 44 -53 a box of "5" for 12 gauge #8's I would consider them a bit pricy. Still might try a box. Don't have any reloading equipment for shotgun shells. But at one shot per turkey and a couple to pattern probably don't need to reload.
I think Apex has something good going on. I do believe there's a market out there for people like myself that want to try out TSS but are leery of hand loading themselves. I had a couple friends loading their own raving about how great it was, I was on the skeptical side.. as Hevi13 has been working for me and working well... Then I had that one bird this spring.. rainy day longbeard.. not a far shot, 35 yards.. looking through a wet glass on the ff2, maybe I pulled the shot some. I hit him, I know I hit him. Never recovered that bird unfortunately.. sick to my stomach and all I could think was tss would have killed him (I still believe that). I found out about Apex shortly after that, towards the end of the season and picked up a box when they couldn't keep any in stock for more than a couple days. I killed 4 longbeards after that. 22, 27, 24 and 28 yds.. clearly nothing Hevi13 would have had a problem with.. but I noticed a difference.. I know dead is dead.. but not a one of them flopped. I'm not completely sold yet as it obviously isn't necessary, but TSS really seems to be some wicked stuff.. I loaded up with enough for next season already to give it some more "testing". I have no desire to take stupid far shots even if its within the capabilities of the load.. but if it can save a screw up, misjudge, pulled shot, etc and turn it into a dead gobbler vs a wounded bird.. it would be worth it. And price wise.. if you're looking at tss - Apex's price isn't much more than loading your own in small volume. So far so good.
Do not need many reloading tools to do your own. A hand drill and a few other items and you are good to go
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Quote from: fallhnt on July 22, 2017, 02:17:53 PM
They have it in .410 too. Just in time for Fall turkey.
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Now the .410 shells do sound interesting
Robert and those guys have been loading for their on use for years and are knowledgeable about what they are doing. I would have no issue ordering from them.
I was going to start loading my own. Once Apex became available I decided to just buy theirs and use the extra time to spend with my family and scout! For the small added cost it made sense with my busy life. Glad they started offering the shells. Especially with the inconsistency I was getting with the heavyweight 7's from federal. Do not wanna worry about lot numbers again
I'm interested for the 20, not necessary but most of what I buy isn't needed either. I spend on calls all the time I don't need
I hand load my own TSS 9 in 12 and 20 ga. After the spring season was over I contacted APEX and purchased several 20 ga loads. I has an issue with the APEX shells chambering. Contacted the Guys at APEX, informed them of the issue I was having. They made it right by replacing the shells.
I can tell you for the guy that does not hand load. APEX will full your TSS void. Their 20 ga TSS9 shot very well from my 20 ga guns w a sumtoy choke. If you want to shoot TSS and do not load your own, They have you covered.
This is our Apex .410 3" 27/32oz TSS #9.5 load.
Shooting a Yildiz O/U 26" Barrels with a .385" Comp N Choke choke in the top barrel.
Shot 3 shots for a average.
Average was 186 in the 10" and 125 in the 20" and 85% load rentention inside the 20" @ 40yds
187/125
184/125
189/126
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In the bottom barrel I'm running a factory flush modified choke. At 12 steps the modified choke is shooting a 10" from a couple steps to 30 yards can let em have it with the modified choke. 180's one 120's in the 10 and 20 with the modified at 30 yards. At 30-35 plus yards switch over to the top barrel turkey choke.
I shot it once at 50 for mis ranging distance testing and it put up 81 in the 10 and 150 in the 20. But a beautiful even pattern. Lost about 100 pellets out of the 10" from 40 to 50 yards. Dead gobbler. Pretty amazing. Can hunt with properly set up .410 with out a handicap to 40 yards with 10 yards of misjudged distance cushion of 10 yards past 40.
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Carry a light weight gun. Less recoil. More affordable TSS shells. Can get a box of 5 for $24.99 or a box of 10 for $48.99. There's 366 9.5's in the 27/32oz loads. Completely level a gobbler to 40 yards with a .410 and plenty of cushion distance for misjudging yardage.
nice .410 setup
Hunted with outfitter in MO last spring. He said hunter using TSS #9 12 ga shot turkey at 40 yds. He said the only thing he noticed was the breast was full of pellets. Can see where that would happen with smaller shot.
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Hunted with outfitter in MO last spring. He said hunter using TSS #9 12 ga shot turkey at 40 yds. He said the only thing he noticed was the breast was full of pellets. Can see where that would happen with smaller shot.
Something with the hunter cause the birds I have killed with the TSS 9s had no more shot in the breast than any other. Most of the shot goes straight through the breast when it does hit it.