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Title: Banded birds
Post by: Chris O on August 20, 2017, 11:21:25 PM
I was just wondering if any of you have banded turkeys or used to have in your State?Years ago in my county in Iowa we didn't have turkey hunting.We only had certain zones of the state that we could hunt.Eventually the DNR started trapping and relocating birds to help populate more areas of the State.My dad was lucky enough to kill one of the original banded birds that the DNR transplanted in our county and was a very cool trophy.That bird was on his fifth spring when he was killed And weighed 23lbs and had a good beard and spurs but I don't remember the actual lengths. I was just curious if any of you had any similar stories?The bird was caught and released as a Jake and was trapped by Lake Redhaw for any of you Iowan's that might live by there or know where it is.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Will on August 21, 2017, 03:03:08 AM
In the mid 2000's there was a sport shop named Dave's just outside of Salisbury Maryland in Somerset County Maryland. In the back he had a turkey mounted full strut. The bird had a NWTF leg band and he mentioned this bird was a transplant bird killed on the Eastern Shore. Transplanted from Western Maryland. He has since closed shop but I remember it well. Wish I was lucky enough to bag one.   
Title: Banded birds
Post by: Happy on August 21, 2017, 05:10:58 AM
Non of our turkeys have been talented enough to be in a band.

On a serious note I did research and we have never had turkeys stocked into our area. Extreme Western Md/Wv was the last holdout of the wild turkey population in Md. Supposedly we have pure strain around here. I do remember them trapping and sending birds to the MD eastern shore when I was younger.

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Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Hook hanger on August 21, 2017, 10:02:31 AM
They are banding them in extreme north missouri last couple years and next couple.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: TauntoHawk on August 21, 2017, 10:06:14 AM
had a trail cam pics some years back of one when we looked into it the only banding and release in the area had been 7yrs prior about a mile away but never killed him.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: fountain2 on August 21, 2017, 10:19:04 AM
I went with an outfitter in Kansas a few years back, Misty morning outfitters, and they habe killed several.  They have actually killed a lot.  I'm not sure why there are than many in that area, but they kill several every year.  There could possibly be some tagging done outside of the dnr department may be, I don't know.  I do know they kill several every year
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: honker22 on August 21, 2017, 10:36:39 AM
My first bird ever, was an original transplant.  I killed him in 1996 (first year that turkey season opened), he was transplanted and released in 1989... I'm assuming as a jake but I can't remember.  I had no clue what was clanking on his leg when I shot it.

Also, killed 2 banded birds 8-10 years ago maybe.  The state was doing some type of turkey research. They had been caught in February and banded about 3-4 miles from where I killed them.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Tail Feathers on August 21, 2017, 11:19:48 AM
I killed a banded bird on my lease a few years ago.  Two birds came out, I got the second one.
It was banded the years before as a jake. 
It was banded by a local State guy doing a study.  I went to his office with the band and he looked it up.  He remembered it, and told me he had only banded two jakes.  They were running together when netted and one was a double beard.

I'll always wonder if I passed on a double beard banded bird to shoot the one behind him... :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Chris O on August 21, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: Hook hanger on August 21, 2017, 10:02:31 AM
They are banding them in extreme north missouri last couple years and next couple.
Is this a survey? Do they think their population is dwindling? I have heard bobcats are really hard on them.At least That is what some southern Iowa guys are saying. Thanks for all the replies we got some interesting stories.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Hook hanger on August 21, 2017, 02:59:15 PM
Yes a survey like a five year study banding them.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Greg Massey on August 21, 2017, 03:54:01 PM
I don't think any birds that got banded years ago in Tennessee are still living ....
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: HookedonHooks on August 21, 2017, 06:03:58 PM
Quote from: Chris O on August 21, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: Hook hanger on August 21, 2017, 10:02:31 AM
They are banding them in extreme north missouri last couple years and next couple.
Is this a survey? Do they think their population is dwindling? I have heard bobcats are really hard on them.At least That is what some southern Iowa guys are saying. Thanks for all the replies we got some interesting stories.

In my opinion, the turkey populations in Northern Missouri are being primarily damaged by the large removal of timber lines and positive habitat for ag fields and cattle. Along with this, if the properties coyote population is not also kept in control, they will destroy your turkey population, because northern Missouri is loaded with more coyotes than potentially anywhere else in the United States.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Chris O on August 21, 2017, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: HookedonHooks on August 21, 2017, 06:03:58 PM
Quote from: Chris O on August 21, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: Hook hanger on August 21, 2017, 10:02:31 AM
They are banding them in extreme north missouri last couple years and next couple.
Is this a survey? Do they think their population is dwindling? I have heard bobcats are really hard on them.At least That is what some southern Iowa guys are saying. Thanks for all the replies we got some interesting stories.

In my opinion, the turkey populations in Northern Missouri are being primarily damaged by the large removal of timber lines and positive habitat for ag fields and cattle. Along with this, if the properties coyote population is not also kept in control, they will destroy your turkey population, because northern Missouri is loaded with more coyotes than potentially anywhere else in the United States.
We have lost tons of habitat here in the last 5 years also.It is sickening places I could always rely on for a little hunting and trapping are getting leveled and tiled and every fence row that had any kind of cover is gone.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: deerhunt1988 on August 27, 2017, 12:54:30 PM
In 2016 I harvested two banded toms with GPS/radio transmitters in South Carolina. They were part of a research project.


(http://i.imgur.com/rHKLMdo.jpg)


The first bird I killed was banded in February of that same spring, nearly 2.5 miles away. The grad student on the project sent me a map of the bird's movements since the banding and his movements the day I killed him. Meet gobbler #80:

(http://i.imgur.com/tumwzc5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kWjgRZC.jpg)


It gets even cooler. As part of the project, I had a GPS tracker on me when I harvested the bird.

(http://i.imgur.com/ILmg7lE.jpg)



A couple days later, I managed to bag one of the first birds banded for the project. Meet gobbler # 3:

(http://i.imgur.com/TTWdJ6o.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WxJu0D2.jpg)



Gobbler # 3 was banded in January of 2014 and had 1" spurs at the time of banding. So he was likely 5 years old when I got him 1.3 miles from where he was trapped.


You are probably thinking "DANG, how lucky can a turkey hunter get?!"

Well it ain't over.

This spring I traveled to Oklahoma and managed to bag yet another banded gobbler.


(http://i.imgur.com/5lFEjHZ.jpg)


He was banded the year before as a jake in the same area I harvested him.






I don't hunt waterfowl, but I reckon I'm gonna start me a band necklace.  ;)

Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: KentuckyHeadhunter on August 27, 2017, 06:59:09 PM
Deerhunt 1988 that's very impressive and very rare.  Thanks for sharing and huge congrats!
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Chris O on August 27, 2017, 09:21:28 PM
Yeah that is awesome!!! Bird #3 was a dandy.None of the birds moved to far Did they.Could you see the transmitters before you shot?Did you know that the DNR was doing the study?some of those goose guys might get jealous of all your bands. Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: chcltlabz on September 20, 2017, 09:26:30 AM
The bird in my avatar was killed in 2003 in Maryland.  It was part of a trap and transfer done by the state, and the second banded bird we killed on that farm.  He was at least 5 years old and hadn't traveled far from the transfer.

In 2007, I was in the black hills and shot a banded Merriams.  He was 3 years old and spurless.  He had traveled quite a ways from where he was banded.  50 miles of mostly prairie if I remember right.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Chris O on September 20, 2017, 01:11:34 PM
Wow 50 miles seems like a long long ways. He must not have liked his surroundings or got beat up and kicked out of a few spots.Interesting stuff thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Will on September 20, 2017, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: chcltlabz on September 20, 2017, 09:26:30 AM
The bird in my avatar was killed in 2003 in Maryland.  It was part of a trap and transfer done by the state, and the second banded bird we killed on that farm.  He was at least 5 years old and hadn't traveled far from the transfer.

In 2007, I was in the black hills and shot a banded Merriams.  He was 3 years old and spurless.  He had traveled quite a ways from where he was banded.  50 miles of mostly prairie if I remember right.

If you don't mind me asking what part of Maryland?
Thanks
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: deerhunt1988 on September 23, 2017, 07:22:27 AM
Quote from: Chris O on August 27, 2017, 09:21:28 PM
Yeah that is awesome!!! Bird #3 was a dandy.None of the birds moved to far Did they.Could you see the transmitters before you shot?Did you know that the DNR was doing the study?some of those goose guys might get jealous of all your bands. Thanks for sharing

Nope, plenty of good habitat in the area so they had no reason to move far. I had no clue either bird had a transmitter on it. In fact, I was so ecstatic over the band on the first one I killed, it took me 15 minutes to realize it had a transmitter too! ha. I found out about the study while planning my hunt. So I did know there were banded and radio-wearing birds in the area.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Chris O on September 23, 2017, 09:14:00 AM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on September 23, 2017, 07:22:27 AM
Quote from: Chris O on August 27, 2017, 09:21:28 PM
Yeah that is awesome!!! Bird #3 was a dandy.None of the birds moved to far Did they.Could you see the transmitters before you shot?Did you know that the DNR was doing the study?some of those goose guys might get jealous of all your bands. Thanks for sharing

Nope, plenty of good habitat in the area so they had no reason to move far. I had no clue either bird had a transmitter on it. In fact, I was so ecstatic over the band on the first one I killed, it took me 15 minutes to realize it had a transmitter too! ha. I found out about the study while planning my hunt. So I did know there were banded and radio-wearing birds in the area.
Awesome story thanks for sharing. I just heard of a similar story from a friend but a totally different animal.He was out doing chores and kicked up a coyote out of a draw and it had a little yellow ear tag on it. I don't know if the DNR is doing a study or If it came out of a coyote pen that they use to train hounds but kind of neat anyway. I would love to get a banded turkey they make a very nice trophy congrats on yours.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: chcltlabz on September 26, 2017, 04:31:34 PM
Quote from: Will on September 20, 2017, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: chcltlabz on September 20, 2017, 09:26:30 AM
The bird in my avatar was killed in 2003 in Maryland.  It was part of a trap and transfer done by the state, and the second banded bird we killed on that farm.  He was at least 5 years old and hadn't traveled far from the transfer.

In 2007, I was in the black hills and shot a banded Merriams.  He was 3 years old and spurless.  He had traveled quite a ways from where he was banded.  50 miles of mostly prairie if I remember right.

If you don't mind me asking what part of Maryland?
Thanks
Central.  Baltimore County
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Will on September 26, 2017, 06:24:23 PM


If you don't mind me asking what part of Maryland?
Thanks
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Central.  Baltimore County
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Thanks. I had heard stories of banded birds in the late 90's early 2000's on the southern Eastern Shore of Maryland. I was curious if the boost in birds in the Central part of the state was because of transplants resulting in banded birds. Congrats!
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Will on September 26, 2017, 06:33:00 PM
Congrats to you guys that kill banded turkeys. I've been waterfowling for a little while now and have recovered one band from a goose. I've seen three other bands recovered on a hunt so for those of you that have tagged banded turkeys I applaud you. A rare and true trophy in my book.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: chcltlabz on September 27, 2017, 12:55:45 PM
Waterfowl and turkeys, banded birds are almost exclusively luck.  There's no added skill in killing one with a band versus without, but they're a cool trophy and story.
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Chris O on September 27, 2017, 06:14:23 PM
Quote from: chcltlabz on September 27, 2017, 12:55:45 PM
Waterfowl and turkeys, banded birds are almost exclusively luck.  There's no added skill in killing one with a band versus without, but they're a cool trophy and story.
very true some luck involved and They aren't chosen because they're the smartest turkey. I like the fact that you find out some info about the bird.The one that my dad got another local hunter had called him in before season and saw the band on his leg and was going to try to get him when season opened but my dad was lucky enough to get him first. There's been some interesting stories so thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Banded birds
Post by: Gobble! on October 09, 2017, 08:01:24 PM
Never have but think it would be very cool.