Hey guys I have a quick question for you all. I am looking at buying a trumpet and need some advice on who makes a quality one that is fairly easy to run. This is my first one and I don't know anyone else that uses one so I am going to be self taught. Thanks in advance.
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You will find this topic discussed more than a few time if you do a quick search. I'll add this, you want find a trumpet that you can pickup and master in a few months say like a pot call. Also if you have time to wait get on Buice list but you can find a good call from a maker with a quick turnaround. Again just search it.
I agree with Vaughnrp2 that this topic has been discussed many times and I am sure a search will turn up plenty on this subject for you to read. I would suggest that you purchase a good quality trumpet from one of the many great trumpet makers here on OG. You will find it easy to learn on and should you decide that trumpets are just not for you, you will be able to resale it and recoup most if not all of your investment. If you do not wish to get on a wait list, I would suggest that you visit Ralph Permars' website. The last time I was on Ralphs' site he had several nice calls available. He makes a quality trumpet and is a great guy to deal with. Good luck!
Get ahold of Clay Townsend, great prices on his air calls, great quality, and an even better guy.
There's plenty of other options, and as others said, some of that info can be found with some digging in this exact subforum.
I would recommend trying out one from a maker on the cheaper end of the scale that's still recommend by many just to find out if you'll even like this style of call. There are a lot of people that get into one and then find out they don't want to take the time to learn, or just don't feel comfortable using these style of calls. If you decide it is for you then investing in one of the pricier options down the line could be well worth it though.
100 people will answer and you will get 95 different answers. Look through the forum on who hunts and kills with them regularly and then find what they say.
How deep are your pockets? But I'd say get an osage Buice and you'll have a killer for lifetime. And an heirloom call.
I'd contact Anthony Ellis at AGE Trumpets and see if he has any on hand that he was intending to sell at Unicoi. If he does, buy one. If he doesn't, Ralph Permar has some available on his site right now. That's two immediate options on incredible calls, otherwise expect to be on waiting lists for awhile.
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That's good question, but impossible to answer, there's so many really good ones. I'd say do a little more research, pick one and jump in with both feet. Just as important (or more) as the call is learning the right way. A little good, quality instructions and tips will go a long way. Once you "get it", you'll be hooked, particularly once you see how they perform (at times) in the turkey woods.
A lot of good folks on here will help you out.
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Call that EZ fella above, I know you want a trumpet but he makes a outstanding Cane or Wingbone call. Very easy to learn with!!
Decided on a Ralph Permar .45, it is not crazy expensive in comparison to others in case I decide it's not for me like some of you have mentioned. Thanks fellas
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Good choice! I just picked up a 45 myself and it's an awesome call! Good luck!
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On your way to 95 different answers you may want to check out Misfire and Lewis Stowe. PM me if you need their contact info.
A Permar 45 was my first trumpet. Great choice and Ralph is a pleasure to talk turkey with!!
Willy :boon:
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A Permar 45 was my first trumpet. Great choice and Ralph is a pleasure to talk turkey with!!
Willy :boon:
Now once I get it we will see how mad I can make my wife for the next six months learning just to make the sound of a drowning turkey. Going to be about the same has when I was learning to run a henbox.
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Rick Alessandrini makes a killer trumpet. Very easy to play.
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Call that EZ fella above, I know you want a trumpet but he makes a outstanding Cane or Wingbone call. Very easy to learn with!!
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Quote from: rakkin6 on January 10, 2021, 01:51:24 AM
Decided on a Ralph Permar .45, it is not crazy expensive in comparison to others in case I decide it's not for me like some of you have mentioned. Thanks fellas
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great choice, congrats
Quote from: rakkin6 on January 10, 2021, 01:51:24 AM
Decided on a Ralph Permar .45, it is not crazy expensive in comparison to others in case I decide it's not for me like some of you have mentioned. Thanks fellas
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Ralph's calls run as easy as any made, and all sound great. I've got more trumpets from him than any other maker and there's a reason for that. If you wind up wanting to try a different type of call, his modified Jordans are the best deal in suction calls.
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Understand trumpets can be as personal as mouth calls. What I love may not be one you care for. Everyone's lips and air draw can be different so one builder may suit you better than another. There are a few rules of thumb calls for beginners, but saying this is the best call for anyone is not correct. The Permar should be a good one to learn on, but if you decide to try others do not be surprised if you find one that you play with more ease. Trumpets are fun but they require time and dedication and no particular call will make up for that.
Quote from: davisd9 on January 10, 2021, 09:17:59 AM
Understand trumpets can be as personal as mouth calls. What I love may not be one you care for. Everyone's lips and air draw can be different so one builder may suit you better than another. There are a few rules of thumb calls for beginners, but saying this is the best call for anyone is not correct. The Permar should be a good one to learn on, but if you decide to try others do not be surprised if you find one that you play with more ease. Trumpets are fun but they require time and dedication and no particular call will make up for that.
No one told him this was the "best call for him" or "the best call for anyone." He asked suggestions, wound up buying a .45, and folks told him that's a great call. I did say Permar's improved Jordans are the "best deal in suction calls." And considering you can get a call that sounds that good and is made that well from an absolute legend for $60, I stand by that. Can't think of anyone else at Ralph's level selling $60 suction calls. But you're absolutely right that one maker's call that fits one player really well may not work for another. I've got more Permars than anything but truth be told Anthony Ellis' trumpets play more easily for me than anything else I've ever tried to play. He may very well find that's the case with him, but a .45 is a fine place to start. Established call from a legendary maker, zero wait time and didn't break the bank. Win win.
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Well with this being my first trumpet I didn't care to spend some money on quality but obviously didn't want to spend $350.00-$400.00 and then decide it wasn't for me. And from listening to a lot of folks I get the idea it will take a lot of practice before I can put it to use on the woods. So I am planning on the spring of 2022 getting it into the woods. If somehow I can this year then I will but my plan is for next spring. I appreciate all the help.
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Quote from: rakkin6 on January 10, 2021, 10:21:40 AM
Well with this being my first trumpet I didn't care to spend some money on quality but obviously didn't want to spend $350.00-$400.00 and then decide it wasn't for me. And from listening to a lot of folks I get the idea it will take a lot of practice before I can put it to use on the woods. So I am planning on the spring of 2022 getting it into the woods. If somehow I can this year then I will but my plan is for next spring. I appreciate all the help.
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Who knows, you might be a natural! I'd follow Tony Ezolt's (EZ on here) and lots of other good callers advice, and just learn that one call really well. You learn and dial in the mechanics with one good call and then you can typically run most anything.
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Quote from: rakkin6 on January 10, 2021, 10:21:40 AM
Well with this being my first trumpet I didn't care to spend some money on quality but obviously didn't want to spend $350.00-$400.00 and then decide it wasn't for me. And from listening to a lot of folks I get the idea it will take a lot of practice before I can put it to use on the woods. So I am planning on the spring of 2022 getting it into the woods. If somehow I can this year then I will but my plan is for next spring. I appreciate all the help.
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Who knows, you might be a natural! I'd follow Tony Ezolt's (EZ on here) and lots of other good callers advice, and just learn that one call really well. You learn and dial in the mechanics with one good call and then you can typically run most anything.
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Makes complete sense to me, that's what I did with a mouth call. Learned on a double stack primos and now can use a lot of calls (if it fits my pallet) and any cut. Not that I am great with one.
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Quote from: rakkin6 on January 10, 2021, 10:21:40 AM
Well with this being my first trumpet I didn't care to spend some money on quality but obviously didn't want to spend $350.00-$400.00 and then decide it wasn't for me. And from listening to a lot of folks I get the idea it will take a lot of practice before I can put it to use on the woods. So I am planning on the spring of 2022 getting it into the woods. If somehow I can this year then I will but my plan is for next spring. I appreciate all the help.
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You do not have to spend top money. No one said you made a bad choice but I just pointed out that what works for me may not work for you. I sure wish I was given that advice when I started. Good luck. I am no expert but willing to help if I can.
x2 ChesterCopperpot I learned and shot my first longbeard with a T6 Bocote from Anthony Ellis and I have more of his calls than any others. I have several of Ralphs' calls as well and I never hunt without at least one of his in my vest. As I'm sure you are aware, Ralph also has a great video on Youtube regarding how to run a trumpet.
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x2 ChesterCopperpot I learned and shot my first longbeard with a T6 Bocote from Anthony Ellis and I have more of his calls than any others. I have several of Ralphs' calls as well and I never hunt without at least one of his in my vest. As I'm sure you are aware, Ralph also has a great video on Youtube regarding how to run a trumpet.
Yeah, I still find that Permar video the most helpful, especially as far as learning hand placement and hand control. To the OP, there were a lot of good YouTube videos posted in this one awhile back, including the Permar video and the Marlin Watkins series:
Best advice for trumpet novice caller
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Quote from: rakkin6 on January 10, 2021, 10:21:40 AM
Well with this being my first trumpet I didn't care to spend some money on quality but obviously didn't want to spend $350.00-$400.00 and then decide it wasn't for me. And from listening to a lot of folks I get the idea it will take a lot of practice before I can put it to use on the woods. So I am planning on the spring of 2022 getting it into the woods. If somehow I can this year then I will but my plan is for next spring. I appreciate all the help.
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You do not have to spend top money. No one said you made a bad choice but I just pointed out that what works for me may not work for you. I sure wish I was given that advice when I started. Good luck. I am no expert but willing to help if I can.
Thanks for the offer, once I receive it I may be reaching out to you lol.
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I got a 1930 from Ralph right after the season ended last year. I called him to discuss his calls and he ran several for me on the phone right then so I could tell which one I liked more. I love the call and will hunt with it forever, but even more, I love the memory from that personal phone call and cherish the hand written note he sent with the trumpet as much as the call. You can't go wrong with a Permar or many of the others mentioned in the thread. Buy them all!
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Quote from: rakkin6 on January 10, 2021, 10:21:40 AM
Well with this being my first trumpet I didn't care to spend some money on quality but obviously didn't want to spend $350.00-$400.00 and then decide it wasn't for me. And from listening to a lot of folks I get the idea it will take a lot of practice before I can put it to use on the woods. So I am planning on the spring of 2022 getting it into the woods. If somehow I can this year then I will but my plan is for next spring. I appreciate all the help.
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You do not have to spend top money. No one said you made a bad choice but I just pointed out that what works for me may not work for you. I sure wish I was given that advice when I started. Good luck. I am no expert but willing to help if I can.
Thanks for the offer, once I receive it I may be reaching out to you lol.
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If you still have my number from the pot transaction, feel free to call or text anytime.
Quote from: bwhana on January 10, 2021, 12:00:42 PM
I got a 1930 from Ralph right after the season ended last year. I called him to discuss his calls and he ran several for me on the phone right then so I could tell which one I liked more. I love the call and will hunt with it forever, but even more, I love the memory from that personal phone call and cherish the hand written note he sent with the trumpet as much as the call. You can't go wrong with a Permar or many of the others mentioned in the thread. Buy them all!
That is how the transaction should go! Awesome story.
My advice is to start drinking heavily.
You won't have to wait until spring 2022 to use your trumpet if you take learning to use it seriously.
There is plenty of time to be ready for this spring if you practice daily, use the same discipline you would for any musical instrument.
If you have the ability to use a trumpet at all you'll be good enough by spring to call gobblers.
Some of the best advice I've heard on getting started came from Billy Buice, and that was play it daily 10-15 minutes while your mouth is getting used to it. Don't practice 2 hrs. one day and skip several days.
Use the lanyard, drive around with it and learn to play it one handed, which you will need to learn anyway.
watch the u-tubes mentioned, add Del Crow (savduck) on here to the list if not already mentioned. as you progress and rewatch them you'll understand stuff that went over your head in the beginning.
Also your first season it doesn't hurt to pray for gobblers that rode the short bus when they were growing up
I dont play great but I do kill a turkey sometimes. I have found a cane yelper is easier to learn with. Kevin Rouse makes a great one that is easy to play. I also have an Anthony Ezolt wing bone that plays easy. Only advice I give you is get the basics from You Tube and then after you get the rhythm and basics down sound like yourself and dont copy anyone else. I am not a great caller but I can do it. Definitely wont win even a beginner competition.
I have a funny feeling he's gonna get bitten by the Yelper bug. It's a small club but we are welcoming!!!!
I typically always have at least one trumpet in my truck and often practice
10 of 15 minutes at a time while driving. No expert by any means but have
come a long ways since I started.
I had a close buddy out one morning to try and call in his first longbeard.
We got in at dark thirty and were fortunate to set up within 50 yds of a couple roosted gobblers.
Just before fly down I gave a few soft purrs and clucks on a copper pot call. The birds responded but after fly down they ignored my calls and were heading to some birds gobbling on the next farm south.
I pulled out my model 45, gave a few clucks, soft yelps and some kee kees.
The birds made an abrupt turn and came in on the run. My buddy proceeded to shoot the lead bird
and he was pretty excited to harvest his first bird. I have no doubt that bird would not have came in
had I not used that trumpet.
Sorry about the long winded hijack but my point is......spend the time learning how to run that trumpet. Its time very well spent!!
That's what I did with my mouth call. Kept. A couple in the truck and practiced while driving. I definitely got weird looks when my windows were down and stopped at a red light and the car next to me could hear me.
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IMO you made a wise choice. Ralph makes a great call and for my lips it runs very easy.
My advice is to stick with one trumpet and learn it. A) it will save you a lot of money and B) there are no magic bullets out there. I have a few trumpets (lol) from some great call makers. A lot from the big name guys and a good many from guys you have never heard of. Everyone of them will kill a turkey and I have no problem grabbing any one of them on my way to the woods. I started out using a Penn Woods tom turpin yelper purchased at Walmart. I didn't sound good, but killed turkeys.
You may never sound like a champion caller, but remember there are some pretty bad sounding hens in the woods and they seem to drive the tom's crazy. Trumpets are killers.
Practice now and you can kill turkeys by spring. Call softly and record yourself from 30 yds. Away you will sound better than you thought. Try to sound like a actual turkey. Not a person playing a trumpet. Both will call turkeys though, soft is key to sound more turkey