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Title: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: SnapT on March 27, 2016, 11:36:56 AM
 Hello .   I will be running an O/U with a Carlsons Longbeard XR on top and am trying to decide on a choke for the bottom bbl . thinking something with less reach ie Carlsons cremator in short or med .   any reccomendations ??
Will be using win longbeard XR ammo fwiw .

cheers
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: Philippe on March 27, 2016, 11:55:50 AM
Stick a modified in there and see what happens, I bet you will be surprised. I'm assuming you want one barrel for those longer shots and one for if one pops out at 10 yards. 
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: SnapT on March 27, 2016, 12:12:07 PM
Thanks and yes . I figure the longbeard XR covers me for long and wanted something for those "where did he come from" moments .
I'm new though and my friends think I'm crazy for going the O/U route lol . Impatiently waiting on the postman for the shotty and kitting out in the meantime .

thanks
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: surehuntsalot on March 27, 2016, 12:32:08 PM
I've always said the 0/U would make the perfect turkey gun, tight turkey choke in the top for 30-40 yd shots
factory full for 15-30 yd shots
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: SnapT on March 27, 2016, 12:37:05 PM
 My thinking exactly .  I saw the browning cynergy ultimate turkey gun . Quickly realized I'm not wealthy lol and thought of a clone .
I'll try the modified and full that come with the gun before buying another (already bought the Carlson longbeard before the gun even arrives )

cheers
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: Gtown78 on March 27, 2016, 04:03:04 PM
If it were me I would use a Mod choke and high brass 7.5 lead. Cheap and out to 25 yards he wouldn't have a chance.
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: Bowguy on March 27, 2016, 06:01:02 PM
Modified choke n federal heavy 7s can be a great combination. Here's your problem, oftentimes longbeard loads since they are so tight shoot off poa. If this happens you'll need sights to right it all. At ten yards even with a great spread youd not want to be using side of pattern but center. It may be a problem so pattern the gun. Good luck
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: SnapT on March 27, 2016, 07:58:04 PM
 Thanks for the tips .
I've purchased several different loads of longbeards from 3" #5 , 3" #5magnum and 3 1/2 #6 mag . A friend said try some Kent .
I plan on hitting the range when the gun arrives and pattern away .
As to sights I hope to install a TRS-25 if I can .

cheers
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: Bowguy on March 27, 2016, 08:43:32 PM
Quote from: SnapT on March 27, 2016, 07:58:04 PM
Thanks for the tips .
I've purchased several different loads of longbeards from 3" #5 , 3" #5magnum and 3 1/2 #6 mag . A friend said try some Kent .
I plan on hitting the range when the gun arrives and pattern away .
As to sights I hope to install a TRS-25 if I can .

cheers
I've never seen a double gun capable of 3-1/2"? Modifying the post, looks like Tri star makes one. Just be sure gun is compatable w shells
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: Boll Weevil on March 28, 2016, 04:47:54 PM
I shoot a H&K O/U with 3-1/2" chambers.  Ported barrels + ported Rhino choke tubes; .660 on top .673 on the bottom.

The turkeys hate it.
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: SnapT on March 28, 2016, 05:15:57 PM
  hey Boll Weevil if you don't mind me asking doesn't that gun have a rail ???  I was told by one shop that I cant get a an O/U drilled and tapped .
Maybe its an "at the factory only" type of deal .

cheers
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: codym on March 28, 2016, 05:58:40 PM
I shoot a lot of sporting clays and upland birds with O/U's and one thing I have found even on high end guns is how poor barrel regulation can be. Best case scenario is the barrels converge at a certain distance ie 25 yards. Before 25 and after 25 the patterns are moving in opposite directions. Not a big deal for wing shooting with open chokes, but tight chokes could be a huge problem. I would think the best way would be to sight in for the tighter barrel at 40 then use a pretty open choke like a mod or light mod with a good heavy pheasant load of 7 1/2's and that should cover you pretty well out to 25 yards. If you could get an o/u set up that would be a pretty wicked turkey getter. Good luck
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: Boll Weevil on March 28, 2016, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: SnapT on March 28, 2016, 05:15:57 PM
  hey Boll Weevil if you don't mind me asking doesn't that gun have a rail ???
Yes, vent rib.  B-Square makes a picatinny rail that mounts to the rib via plates and set screws; rock solid.  I added a 3moa Burris FFIII and it is in my mind, the dream turkey gun.  With chrome lined bores and tight machine tolerances I have no POI/POA issues for either barrel.
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: SnapT on March 28, 2016, 06:17:19 PM
 That sounds like an awesome gun .
I'm trying to source the vent rib mount now in Canada . I've found some in the U.S. but they wont ship . Guess we're considered overseas lol .

thanks 
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: Bowguy on March 28, 2016, 07:52:57 PM
Double barrel gund are set to shoot (on a good one) the same poa at a set distance. Anything further or closer should be a little off. By no means doubting what anyone is saying about their gun. 
Changing shells in the barrels could affect this too and super tight patterns exaggerate it all
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: The Woodsman on March 30, 2016, 04:41:23 PM
Change the shell.
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: SnapT on March 30, 2016, 05:47:59 PM
  thanks .   Yeah was considering a different shell for the bottom as well as a mod choke now . Will buy a few in addition to the longbeards .
A smith got back to me and said that he could drill and tap and install a short rail so looks like a sight it is .

cheers
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: BandedSpur on April 02, 2016, 08:54:38 AM
Shoot a Beretta 686UL O/U. Sumtoy .675 with TSS in the lower barrel for the long stuff. Lt mod. and light load of TSS or Pb 7.5s in upper barrel for the close stuff. B-Square cantilever rib mount with FF III. Bottom barrel shoots a couple of inches low (aim for head), upper barrel hits a couple of inches high (aim for waddles). At 6.75 lbs, the ultimate turkey swatter from 10 yds to way out there.
Title: Re: choke suggestions for short range
Post by: SnapT on April 02, 2016, 11:24:00 AM
 That sounds the perfect O/U(as does the H&K) and is what I am aiming for .

As mentioned above I found a gunsmith who said he can do the rail (still a little worried about installing on a new gun lol) but if he has any reservations when we meet I plan on going the cantilever mount route .

Hitting bass pro tomorrow and will get some non turkey shells I think for the bottom barrel where I think I may want it a little less tight than a turkey shell will give me . Will look at what they have for chokes too (though the gun comes with a few factory ones already)

cheers everyone .