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Title: pattern ????
Post by: gooblnfever on March 04, 2011, 07:23:45 PM
i have got a 870 turkey /waterfowl in bottomland camo  new last year with 26 in barrel had a jellyhead .665 that came apart and now have a .660 rhino with that said i have shot the 3 1/2 mag blend with 141 at 40 yds and with nitros h517t with 179 at 40 yds.with all these good patterns going around what is going on with my rig.i have cleaned and polished my barrel and chokes and nothing seems to work.i know the .660 is a little bit tight for the h517t but they were already on the way.any help would be great
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 04, 2011, 08:03:34 PM
I have the same gun and my Jellyhead .660 puts close to 300 pellets in a 10" circle at 40 yards with both the 3" and 3.5" Hevi-13 #7's.
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: allaboutshooting on March 04, 2011, 08:08:03 PM
Quote from: gooblnfever on March 04, 2011, 07:23:45 PM
i have got a 870 turkey /waterfowl in bottomland camo  new last year with 26 in barrel had a jellyhead .665 that came apart and now have a .660 rhino with that said i have shot the 3 1/2 mag blend with 141 at 40 yds and with nitros h517t with 179 at 40 yds.with all these good patterns going around what is going on with my rig.i have cleaned and polished my barrel and chokes and nothing seems to work.i know the .660 is a little bit tight for the h517t but they were already on the way.any help would be great

I would recommend that you try some 3" Hevi-13 "Bronze" shells with 2 oz. of #6 shot. You may be surprised at the patterns from that shell.

I shoot a number of 870s and find that the 26" barrel is just about the perfect length. I also shoot a variety of chokes, different brands and exit diameters. If your .660 Rhino, a fine choke tube by the way, does not work, I'd recommend that you try a choke with a tighter e.d.

Lastly, just to be sure, you are shooting at "big paper" at least 3 feet x 3 feet and circling the best 10" pattern on that paper, correct?

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: BOFF on March 04, 2011, 08:10:03 PM
2 7/16 oz shot is an awful lot. It may be pushing too much shot through that small of choke and barrel constriction.

Just my thoughts.

God Bless,
David B.
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: hookedspur on March 04, 2011, 08:10:58 PM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on March 04, 2011, 08:03:34 PM
I have the same gun and my Jellyhead .660 puts close to 300 pellets in a 10" circle at 40 yards with both the 3" and 3.5" Hevi-13 #7's.
:agreed:
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: gooblnfever on March 04, 2011, 08:25:11 PM
yes im shooting a 4x4 cardboard im going to order the h510c nitro 2 1/4 oz # 7 on moday it is just puzzling the heck out of me
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 04, 2011, 08:41:44 PM
Save yourself some money and just buy a Jellyhead .660 and some Hevi-13 #7's.
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: gooblnfever on March 04, 2011, 08:48:42 PM
i had a jellyhead that was destroyed after shooting some mag blends  so i wont shoot another.even with a cousin on the primos hunting team that can get to me for free where the first one came from just dont wont to take the chance again

thanks
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: 4nwtf on March 05, 2011, 11:56:18 AM
I have an 870 sm 26" barrel with the rhino .660 shooting nitro h517t.  My patterns are much better than what you are getting.  That being said,  when I bought the gun last year first thing was a trip to my gunsmith: trigger job, forcing cone, chamber work, and polished barrel.  Maybe some additional work will improve yours.  Good luck
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 05, 2011, 10:45:12 PM
Quote from: gooblnfever on March 04, 2011, 08:48:42 PM
i had a jellyhead that was destroyed after shooting some mag blends  so i wont shoot another.even with a cousin on the primos hunting team that can get to me for free where the first one came from just dont wont to take the chance again

thanks
I would have to fault the load and not the Jellyhead choke.   Exactly what happened to the choke.
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: Gobble! on March 05, 2011, 10:49:21 PM
Quote from: gooblnfever on March 04, 2011, 08:48:42 PM
i had a jellyhead that was destroyed after shooting some mag blends  so i wont shoot another.even with a cousin on the primos hunting team that can get to me for free where the first one came from just dont wont to take the chance again

thanks

any pictures?
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: gooblnfever on March 06, 2011, 09:55:37 AM
im not knocking the jellyhead im one of primos biggest fans.

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Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: gooblnfever on March 06, 2011, 09:58:04 AM
another from inside the choke

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Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: Gobble! on March 06, 2011, 10:27:46 AM
great pictures thanks for the information
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: tnturkeykiller on March 06, 2011, 10:33:32 AM
Quote from: gooblnfever on March 06, 2011, 09:55:37 AM
im not knocking the jellyhead im one of primos biggest fans.
Where you shooting the mag blend or Nitros
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: Reloader on March 06, 2011, 10:38:27 AM
Was the choke seated/screwed in all the way?  Did it have a dent in the bottom edge prior to use?  Are chokes centered in that particular gun when seated?(look throught the choke and see if the lip is the same all the way around)

Very unusual for a load to grab the bottom lip of the choke if none of the above are present.  I always screw chokes in as tight as I can by hand and peek down the bbl to see if it's centered.  
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: gooblnfever on March 06, 2011, 11:22:14 AM
it was seated all the way down when i took it out to polish my barrel and put a modified in to do the polishing.the new rhino doesnt have a lip sticking up i thought that myself and checked the other day and i was shooting the hevi shot magblends.
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 06, 2011, 11:37:03 AM
After viewing those photos, I would definitely say that the damage was caused by the choke tube not being seated properly. 
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: gooblnfever on March 06, 2011, 11:40:23 AM
i would have to if i hadn't taken it out myself
Title: Re: pattern ????
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 06, 2011, 09:04:24 PM
How did you get it out??