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Title: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Cove on January 08, 2018, 11:52:20 AM
For those that do enjoy watching turkey hunting on YouTube or one of the other platforms, what is it that you like or would like to see? What are some things that you dislike?

I'm sure I have a pretty good idea. Just curious if there are something out there I've overlooked. Toss some ideas out there if you don't mind.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: wvlimbhanger on January 08, 2018, 12:04:34 PM
What I like to see:
The morning or set up unfold, not just a few seconds of strutting, gobbling, and strutting.  Take the viewer through the process
Talk about the situation and set up for that particular hunt....Shane Simpson does a great job of keeping the viewer aware of the current situation and his plans for the next step.
Footage that makes me say...."I wish I got to see that with my own eyes".  For example, was watching a show last night on Carbon TV of a beautiful Florida sunrise with the silhouette of a strutting gobbler on the top of a tree, Spanish moss hanging down etc. 

Not a fan of over the top product pimping.

I could care less if your are in a blind, use decoys, etc.  If it's real world and relatable I'm fine.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: guesswho on January 08, 2018, 12:19:24 PM
Cons for me on hunting videos

1- Loud obnoxious music!
2- Blinds and or decoys. 
3- Hunters acting like they just did the impossible.
4- Actions that may be interpreted as disrespect towards the turkey or other people.
5- Infomercial
6- Long range shots or promoting such.

Pros

1- Kids/Seniors/Women
2- Show the successes and failures of the hunt.  If success or failure was due to a poor set-up, explain why.
3- Show as much pride in taking a Jake or two year old as you would taking a four or five year old. 
4- Up close and personal kill shots.
5- keeping it real.   
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Greg Massey on January 08, 2018, 12:20:24 PM
I love to listen to the response of the gobblers and hens to the calls and caller...i'm talking about people that can half way call.... i've never considered myself a great caller , just average...you have to remember i started turkey hunting with a corncob striker and piece of slate....had no idea what i was doing... The thing about turkey hunting is you need to learn and listen what the gobbler is telling you ...
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: born2hunt on January 08, 2018, 02:03:40 PM
Cove, most of your videos are pretty much on par with what I like to watch.

I know It's a big part of hunting but I don't care to watch most field hunts, especially over a strutter.
Thick hardwoods are hard to beat.
I really enjoy seeing roosting the evening before and the sneak in the next morning.
Now my favorite videos are the hardest to film but are the mobile hunts that require multiple sets to seal the deal. And I like to see the camera running when moving,  showing us what you go through to get that bird, it's the leaves crunching and hard breathing that gives me that feeling like I'm there. It's my favorite way to hunt therefore I enjoy watching it more.

Overall just keep doing your thing.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: daddyduke on January 08, 2018, 02:15:06 PM
Real hunting unfolding on video without all the music or drama.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Gobble! on January 08, 2018, 03:05:46 PM
Good topic. I like to hear about the planning that goes into it. We are going here and why. Then I like to hear as much of the calling as possible. I would gladly watch an hour long youtube video that was detailed and provided justification as to why something was being down. I really like daily videos. I havn't found a turkey youtuber like that yet. I dont care if you didn't kill that day. Give me a 6 minute video explaining why things didn't go the way you wanted.

Dont mind blinds or decoys. Even 1 "reap" a year would be ok as long as the other material was good.

Does anyone have favorite youtube channels? Heres some of mine.

https://www.youtube.com/user/RealOutdoorsTV/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/mossbergofficialsite/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcaISs1357GHLPOhoWjv8qA/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/TCOthecalloutdoors/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/simpzenith/videos
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Happy on January 08, 2018, 04:44:43 PM
I am pretty simple. I want to see someone with a shotgun and turkey call hunting turkeys. Don't need any music or fill in. Show the repositioning and maneuvering. I don't even really care if a bird gets killed. To me it's the birds gobbling at daybreak. The thrill of working one and all the chess moves that result. That and a respect and admiration for the bird.

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Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Cove on January 08, 2018, 05:03:46 PM
Thanks for the input fellas! Keep it coming!  :toothy9:
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Gobble! on January 08, 2018, 06:31:19 PM
Quote from: Cove on January 08, 2018, 05:03:46 PM
Thanks for the input fellas! Keep it coming!  :toothy9:

Do you have a YouTube page?
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: LaLongbeard on January 08, 2018, 08:08:38 PM
Just the woods sound turkeys other birds etc. NO MUSIC of any kind or description if I want to watch a rock concert.... never mind I'd never want to watch a rock concert.
Just the hunt I don't care about your tactical stock and red dot sight.
Watch the first 3 Primos turkey videos they had it right.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Bowguy on January 08, 2018, 08:30:50 PM
I don't watch hunt shows anymore. They're always selling some garbage. The old days when it was about the hunt it was worth watching. Right now I'd rather watch paint dry
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: FLGobstopper on January 08, 2018, 09:08:50 PM
Quote from: Phillipshunt on January 08, 2018, 08:08:38 PM
Just the woods sound turkeys other birds etc. NO MUSIC of any kind...
Watch the first 3 Primos turkey videos they had it right.

Agreed, Primos older stuff on the Truth series was great, a little shaky and maybe out of focus at times but just capturing the excitement of the hunt. I also think maybe a little before hunt footage explaining the situation is good, some b-roll of the surroundings, of course as much of the whole hunt experience as possible and a short post hunt wrap up.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Gen273 on January 08, 2018, 09:47:44 PM
It would be nice to see some guys using custom calls or calls that have meaning and some use to them. A lot of videos you see, the guys are using what they are paid to use. I like to see a gun, calls, other equipment that has seen some use. I also like to see a good hardwood hunt. Not so much into decoys, field setups and blinds. But I think a lot of people want to see hunting that's like the hunting they know.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Kylongspur88 on January 08, 2018, 09:59:39 PM
These are just my preferences.

I want to see someone work a bird. I also want to see someone lay a good shot on a bird. None of that body shot crap just to see feathers fly.

If you want to wave a turkey fan around in the middle of a field that's your choice. I just don't want to see it.

Even though I hunt from a blind sometimes watching someone else kill a bird from a blind over decoys is boring.

On the same token. Even though I bow hunt turkeys on occasion watching someone else do it does nothing for me.

And kill some birds in the thick stuff from time to time. Nothing better than working a bird and waiting for him to step into that one clear lane and when he does you drop the hammer on him.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: compton30 on January 08, 2018, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: Cove on January 08, 2018, 05:03:46 PM
Thanks for the input fellas! Keep it coming!  :toothy9:

Personally, I enjoy the video you have up of your buddy missing, and then conveying that in his younger days he would've wailed that Benelli down through the woods, because I've felt that way myself.

I like watching hunting videos that I can relate to doing. Public land. Small leases. Hunts with your best buddy or your Old Man. I'll never be able to afford to hunt on a ranch or big buck farm and that's fine, but I also don't enjoy watching that kind of hunt. I kinda like the misery that comes with less opportunity.

Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: 3bailey3 on January 08, 2018, 10:26:45 PM
Absolutely no music and someone has it right the first few Primos were great!
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Cove on January 09, 2018, 10:20:26 AM
Quote from: warrent423 on January 08, 2018, 10:21:40 PM
I'd like to see a good Big Cypress WMA Gobbler called to the gun and killed on camera. Cypress, slash pine, cabbage, and live oak trees are a must, along with lots of sawgrass.

That's a tall order! I have carried the camera down there several times but with those conditions it's easy to talk myself into leaving in the truck. :toothy9:

Thanks again for the input guys! I align with most of whats already been shared.

Quote from: Gobble! on January 08, 2018, 06:31:19 PM
Quote from: Cove on January 08, 2018, 05:03:46 PM
Thanks for the input fellas! Keep it coming!  :toothy9:

Do you have a YouTube page?

Just search Dave Owens turkey hunting. Hoping to get it up and moving again soon.

Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Meadow Valley Man on January 09, 2018, 10:20:44 AM
I learned a lot watching Denny Gulvas videos where he didn't even shoot the gobbler.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: GobbleNut on January 09, 2018, 02:04:37 PM
First of all, Dave, I very much enjoy your videos.  Yours are some of the best out there as far as I am concerned.

Having been doing this for so long and having watched so many turkey hunting videos over the years, I am more interested in the circumstances and the tactics used based on those circumstances than I suspect most folks are. I want there to be some educational value to the video rather than just a turkey shoot.  I like to evaluate the tactics I would use in a given situation compared to the hunter and hunt I am watching.  Without some introductory information, a turkey hunt is just another turkey hunt like the hundreds of others available to watch.

First, "the circumstances":  Where is the hunt taking place?....not specifically, but generally.  Is it on private land or public?  What subspecies?... and is the turkey population there high or low?...and how hard are the birds there hunted?  What time of the season are you hunting?...and how much pressure has been put on the birds to that point?  Are you going in "blind" on the hunt?....that is going to an area that you are not familiar with or have not been directed to with "insider" information?  What contacts and/or tactics prior to the actual hunt have been used to find birds to hunt?

"Prefacing the Hunt":  First, explain how you found the particular bird you are hunting.  Secondly, a quick discussion about the anticipated set-up and calling tactics based on "the circumstances". 

"The Hunt":  Include some "transition footage" between starting point and bird with shots of the terrain/vegetation type.  Perhaps a little info along the way with an explanation as to where the set-up will be, how close to the bird,...and why on both.  Obviously, good footage of the hunt, the bird, and the shot,...as much as possible. 

After the Shot:  First of all, no "hysterics" from the hunters.  Yes, measured excitement is good, but proper respect for the bird is paramount.  No repeated slow-motion shots of the damage done to the bird.  Again, treat the bird with respect.  A review of the excitement of the hunt by the hunters and with the gobbler is great.  Take time to "prepare" the bird.  Get the feathers in place and get rid of the blood. For me personally, showing beard and spur length is good.  I like to see/hear that information,... others may not care.

The Absolute "Don'ts" (for me, anyway)
In any hunt I watch, at the very first hint of a pop-up blind, feeder, or someone sitting at a food plot, I am out. 
Don't show and discuss the damage done to the bird.  Showing a gobblers head decapitated by a broadhead or completely "jellied" by the latest, greatest "gun and load" combo is distasteful and, again in my opinion, disrespects the bird.

Finally, always remember that these videos reflect on hunters and the way of life that we cherish.  Ask yourself, if an objective non-hunter saw this video, would they be offended by something in it?  If so, either modify it or explain it, but don't just say "to heck with them".  Always be aware of the fact that the 75% of the general public that has no strong feelings one way or the other about hunting, but whose attitudes will ultimately determine the future of hunting in this country, are perfectly capable of being swayed against us. 
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: guesswho on January 09, 2018, 05:25:02 PM
Please don't hire Gobblenut as your producer.  I fell asleep just trying to get through his reply.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Cove on January 09, 2018, 05:54:48 PM
Quote from: guesswho on January 09, 2018, 05:25:02 PM
Please don't hire Gobblenut as your producer.  I fell asleep just trying to get through his reply.

I thinking you've got to have money to hire someone.  :z-dizzy:
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: guesswho on January 09, 2018, 06:29:00 PM
Good point. 
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Chris O on January 09, 2018, 08:05:45 PM
I enjoy a few cooking segments after the hunt. I always enjoyed Jim Zumbo and Ted Nugents cooking segments on their shows
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: 1iagobblergetter on January 09, 2018, 09:14:21 PM
Not for all the gimmick new fad turkey hunting junk they are promoting or the ones with all the music...Like watching the early morning hunts with all the sounds of the morning and gobblers sounding off all over on the limb. I also like seeing or hearing a wide range of calls used and how the gobbler responds..Less commercialized would be good...
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Dr Juice on January 10, 2018, 04:32:09 AM
I miss the Turkey Thugs show. A bunch of common guys who broke each others balls on occasion while enjoying the thrill of the turkey hunt. They seemed to gel well.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: GobbleNut on January 10, 2018, 08:19:13 AM
Quote from: guesswho on January 09, 2018, 05:25:02 PM
Please don't hire Gobblenut as your producer.  I fell asleep just trying to get through his reply.
:TooFunny: I wrote it because I knew you needed a good nap,....YaGoob!  :toothy12:
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Greg Massey on January 10, 2018, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut on January 09, 2018, 02:04:37 PM
First of all, Dave, I very much enjoy your videos.  Yours are some of the best out there as far as I am concerned.

Having been doing this for so long and having watched so many turkey hunting videos over the years, I am more interested in the circumstances and the tactics used based on those circumstances than I suspect most folks are. I want there to be some educational value to the video rather than just a turkey shoot.  I like to evaluate the tactics I would use in a given situation compared to the hunter and hunt I am watching.  Without some introductory information, a turkey hunt is just another turkey hunt like the hundreds of others available to watch.

First, "the circumstances":  Where is the hunt taking place?....not specifically, but generally.  Is it on private land or public?  What subspecies?... and is the turkey population there high or low?...and how hard are the birds there hunted?  What time of the season are you hunting?...and how much pressure has been put on the birds to that point?  Are you going in "blind" on the hunt?....that is going to an area that you are not familiar with or have not been directed to with "insider" information?  What contacts and/or tactics prior to the actual hunt have been used to find birds to hunt?

"Prefacing the Hunt":  First, explain how you found the particular bird you are hunting.  Secondly, a quick discussion about the anticipated set-up and calling tactics based on "the circumstances". 

"The Hunt":  Include some "transition footage" between starting point and bird with shots of the terrain/vegetation type.  Perhaps a little info along the way with an explanation as to where the set-up will be, how close to the bird,...and why on both.  Obviously, good footage of the hunt, the bird, and the shot,...as much as possible. 

After the Shot:  First of all, no "hysterics" from the hunters.  Yes, measured excitement is good, but proper respect for the bird is paramount.  No repeated slow-motion shots of the damage done to the bird.  Again, treat the bird with respect.  A review of the excitement of the hunt by the hunters and with the gobbler is great.  Take time to "prepare" the bird.  Get the feathers in place and get rid of the blood. For me personally, showing beard and spur length is good.  I like to see/hear that information,... others may not care.

The Absolute "Don'ts" (for me, anyway)
In any hunt I watch, at the very first hint of a pop-up blind, feeder, or someone sitting at a food plot, I am out. 
Don't show and discuss the damage done to the bird.  Showing a gobblers head decapitated by a broadhead or completely "jellied" by the latest, greatest "gun and load" combo is distasteful and, again in my opinion, disrespects the bird.

Finally, always remember that these videos reflect on hunters and the way of life that we cherish.  Ask yourself, if an objective non-hunter saw this video, would they be offended by something in it?  If so, either modify it or explain it, but don't just say "to heck with them".  Always be aware of the fact that the 75% of the general public that has no strong feelings one way or the other about hunting, but whose attitudes will ultimately determine the future of hunting in this country, are perfectly capable of being swayed against us.
Long and good post.. i just think you left out about age of hunters and health problems limiting them to hunt plots and out of blinds and lets not forget our disabled Veterans who like to hunt...lets not be selfish in our way of thinking how some people have to hunt these birds...  NOW i need nap....
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: GobbleNut on January 10, 2018, 11:35:38 AM
Good point, Greg.  I did not contemplate that particular item as well as I should have.  There are certainly exceptions, as you point out, to my general statement about that. ...Besides, I really didn't figure most of the guys on OG would make it that far through my post before nodding off.   ;D
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Cut N Run on January 10, 2018, 03:26:54 PM
I also enjoy seeing other native wildlife going about its daily routine during the turkey hunt.  I've had so many close interactions with non-game animals that I never would have experienced if I hadn't been turkey hunting.  There's so much more to turkey hunting that just killing the bird.

I really enjoy your videos Dave. I've passed them on to many new hunters to give them an idea of how the hunt should be done.  Keep on like you're doing and thanks for taking the time & effort to create quality turkey hunt videos.

Jim
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: strutnva on January 10, 2018, 05:23:28 PM
I like a narration of the strategy and plan of attack.  What the bird is doing or has done to make you do whatever it is you had to do to get him killed.  Solid or sloppy video doesn't bother me, I just like it real.  But again, narration is the key for me, tell the story!!!  It is entertainment anyway.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: the Ward on January 10, 2018, 06:01:57 PM
Swedish bikini team parachuting into field under cover of darkness. Tries to call in turkey at first light with squealing hen call. Fail. Then, switches tactics to stalking turkeys  using turkey fan reaping method. Some good old fashioned death metal for theme music with volume turned to 11. Team dispatch's a 6 lbs jake using tss fingernail extensions. Victory dance celebration culminating with spiking the jake nfl style. Air it on history channel for big ratings! Lol not really, but I'm willing to bet sometime, somewhere, an obscure hunting product maker probably thought about this as an idea for a commercial!
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: MK M GOBL on January 10, 2018, 07:19:08 PM
I can give you both sides "I want to see" and what "I don't want to see"

So most of these hunting shows any more I'm not even interested in... Arrogance and ignorance are way out of hand, when the kill becomes more important to where I see trespassing and game violation by these "hosts" I turn them off and will not buy their product.. For most of us I will never hunt the "Featured" ground they hunt where game populations are high and highly managed and the cost $$$ to hunt there that most of us do not have access to.

Hate that most shows are just a commercial for product (Just a GIANT money machine for these folks) and do not trust the host or the product they are pitching, they are being "sponsored" to sell those products. No one company is making the best of everything...

I hate to see bad shots and the fist pumping after them like they did good. I would rather have the hunter say how he did not make the best shot and how it went down after.



So what I would like to see:

Some truth in what we see, so many things are edited to make them look good for the show but it's not what happened...

Educational: THIS IS A BIG ONE What can I learn from what you are showing me, this is one of the most missed aspects of these shows. Showing a bunch of kill shots doesn't teach one anything. I want to know the why, how, where and what you are doing to improve your hunting tactics, tips and of course what didn't work.

I would like to see more "real hunts" that take place on public land or that knock on the door private land.

I do like seeing the different areas than what I hunt as I can learn what to look for if/when I would try hunting such an area. There are some styles of hunting I might not go for that others might (My personal choice), don't mind that you would have a show on them. (I would just not watch that show)

Now I don't mind you telling me I used a "product" because it works, if I can believe in what you are telling me I am more likely to look at said product before buying. I would guess most of us rely on getting recommendation from other hunters on the product, what we talk about on web-site like this or some online reviews and such.


My last piece with this is:
I do work for a Retail Outdoor Goods Store and I have no financial gain by selling any specific product, but If I sell you something I believe in, I have experience with and success with, that is what I recommend. Then my gain is that you come back to me if said product lives up to what I have stated about it to you and you again ask for my recommendation on another product.

MK M GOBL
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: the Ward on January 11, 2018, 04:26:48 AM
All joking aside, I would like to see some shows that could maybe focus on the old time ways of hunting. No camo, homemade calls, and old style guns. I think it would be pretty cool watching a hunt like it would have taken place in the early 20th century, be it for deer or turkeys.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: drenalinld on January 11, 2018, 01:44:22 PM
Sometimes it is more about what I do not want to see. The staged recovery, filming action/aiming shots after the shot that are obviously not real time. I LOVE over the shoulder of shooter even without the best footage. I like a time log showing elapsed time when edit cuts are made. I understand the tendency to decoys for footage but I sure do like the woods hunts where call - gobble, call - gobble then the he's coming and at first opportunity smoke that joker. It hardly ever makes movie footage but I sure like it when they include really soft calling that finishes turkeys. Love to hear gobbling in response to the softest calling. Advertisements are a turn-off for me. I like it a little sloppy and unplanned.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: guesswho on January 11, 2018, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: the Ward on January 11, 2018, 04:26:48 AM
All joking aside, I would like to see some shows that could maybe focus on the old time ways of hunting. No camo, homemade calls, and old style guns. I think it would be pretty cool watching a hunt like it would have taken place in the early 20th century, be it for deer or turkeys.
Never really thought of that.  But I like that idea.   I'd watch. 
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Cove on January 11, 2018, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: drenalinld on January 11, 2018, 01:44:22 PM
I like it a little sloppy and unplanned.

Sloppy and unplanned I believe I can pull off.  :icon_thumright: 

Quote from: the Ward on January 11, 2018, 04:26:48 AM
All joking aside, I would like to see some shows that could maybe focus on the old time ways of hunting. No camo, homemade calls, and old style guns. I think it would be pretty cool watching a hunt like it would have taken place in the early 20th century, be it for deer or turkeys.

My style is more old than new I would reason. I may or may not be wearing full camo sometimes, normally because functional, comfortable pants for hunting are a thing of the past it seems. I make all my mouth yelpers and I am partial to a wingbone yelper, although a friend made it. I'm not sure I can steer away from my "modern" firearm though. I like my Franchi.

Quote from: drenalinld on January 11, 2018, 01:44:22 PM
Sometimes it is more about what I do not want to see. The staged recovery, filming action/aiming shots after the shot that are obviously not real time.

I agree. One of my biggest peeves. How about when they walk up in front of the camera like it's not there and "strike" a turkey by inserting a gobble. Hate that.

And I wish I had the opportunities to hunt "featured" property! I agree, it's hard to relate to some of the turf you see the celebs hunting on. My jealousy is showing. . .  :help:
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: SteelerFan on January 11, 2018, 06:20:26 PM
Agree with most other opinions, that staged edits are unnecessary and phony.

Whacking birds over decoys in a field from a tent - they ALL look the same

Capturing a timber hunt, with a bird gobbling as he works his way up the ridge, with the hunter plopped against a tree... that would be cool (I'm biased).
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: gotcha on January 13, 2018, 06:56:44 AM
Scenes around the camp.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: turkaholic on January 13, 2018, 07:47:38 AM
Quote from: SteelerFan on January 11, 2018, 06:20:26 PM
Agree with most other opinions, that staged edits are unnecessary and phony.

Whacking birds over decoys in a field from a tent - they ALL look the same

Capturing a timber hunt, with a bird gobbling as he works his way up the ridge, with the hunter plopped against a tree... that would be cool (I'm biased).
This! And if I never see another FOOL crawling thru a field to jap another noble bird, that would be just great!
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: crow on January 13, 2018, 11:20:19 AM
Quote from: the Ward on January 11, 2018, 04:26:48 AM
All joking aside, I would like to see some shows that could maybe focus on the old time ways of hunting. No camo, homemade calls, and old style guns. I think it would be pretty cool watching a hunt like it would have taken place in the early 20th century, be it for deer or turkeys.

Leatherwood Outdoors on youtube has some traditional flintlock deer hunts that are well filmed hunts done with a minimum of equipment.
There is one from this year deer hunting with an old Win. 1892 in .25-20 that is good

I haven't watched them all but the ones I've seen are 180 degrees from most all tv hunts.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: the Ward on January 13, 2018, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: crow on January 13, 2018, 11:20:19 AM
Quote from: the Ward on January 11, 2018, 04:26:48 AM
All joking aside, I would like to see some shows that could maybe focus on the old time ways of hunting. No camo, homemade calls, and old style guns. I think it would be pretty cool watching a hunt like it would have taken place in the early 20th century, be it for deer or turkeys.

Leatherwood Outdoors on youtube has some traditional flintlock deer hunts that are well filmed hunts done with a minimum of equipment.
There is one from this year deer hunting with an old Win. 1892 in .25-20 that is good

I haven't watched them all but the ones I've seen are 180 degrees from most all tv hunts.
Thanks for the info, I will definitely check those out. Love flintlocks and vintage guns!
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: drenalinld on January 13, 2018, 04:11:07 PM
I really like it when microphones are staged away from hunter to better pick up natural sound as well as hear the calling. More work and editing for multiple audio channels but pays off like no other with drumming audio. Love to hear the chest thump of close gobbles. Easier recorded with remote mic if he comes toward the mic. Easier to get home close to mic with Dekes which I would rather not see.


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Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: TauntoHawk on January 13, 2018, 06:23:55 PM
I can't watch turkey hunting if the caller is horrible, good calling and a hard gobbling birds engage me well.

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Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: GobbleNut on January 14, 2018, 10:17:10 AM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on January 13, 2018, 06:23:55 PM
I can't watch turkey hunting if the caller is horrible, good calling and a hard gobbling birds engage me well.

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Personally, I like the guys that are horrible callers,...gives me something I can relate to.   ;D
Really, horrible calling indicates two things to me:  1) turkeys will often come to anything that resembles another turkey if the conditions are right, and 2) sometimes all you need to be a good turkey hunter is to be hunting the right property. :toothy12:
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Happy hooker on January 14, 2018, 10:38:44 AM
If it's a video with Louisiana hunters,,
They need to put subtitles at the bottom of the screen so we can understand what their saying :fud:
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: bruce.smith0817 on January 14, 2018, 11:12:29 AM
Watching another guy killing a turkey or  deer does nothing for me I love the way they move around bow hunting try that junk on the deer I hunt an you want have  a show

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Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Devastator on January 14, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
Cove,man,anything you put on is the absolute best bud!!!
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Drthorn on January 15, 2018, 10:43:19 AM
i hate videos with the "B roll" type footage....Video of the hunter looking, calling, walking, etc. from a POV that is supposed to be during the hunt, but you know that it was filmed before/after the hunt.

I'd rather have less editing/raw type footage than a lot of fancy edits, etc.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: tree-rat sniper on January 15, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
Anything that isn't a realtree road trips type of production (no pimping the 75+ sponsors without their gear the hunt would be impossible)!  How about a hunt with a good ol boy in bib overalls & a flannel shirt, using his ancient fixed choke sxs double with 2-3/4" loads. Show him using a homemade turtle shell call, or better yet, no call...just his voice! If he shoots, no jumping up & down like he just won the stupor- bowl, maybe have him say a little thank you to the bird for his life...Wouldn't that be refreshing?
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Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Cove on January 16, 2018, 09:41:59 AM
Quote from: tree-rat sniper on January 15, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
If he shoots, no jumping up & down like he just won the stupor- bowl, maybe have him say a little thank you to the bird for his life...Wouldn't that be refreshing?
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It's coming.  :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: bruce.smith0817 on January 17, 2018, 11:05:33 AM
Can't stand all the whispering after after they shot their high dollar deer give me a bteak

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Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: hobbes on March 09, 2018, 12:32:41 PM
Cove,

I didn't read all the previous posts, but here is my input.  I also see that this was started a while back.

Ive enjoyed your videos in the past, so you've been on track as far as I've seen. I dont recall the following dislikes in your videos, but ive seen it in plenty of others.

I dont have cable anymore, but gave up on The Outdoor Channel and similar shows a long time ago.  I dont need 5 minutes of footage replayed over and over in a 30 minute infomercial.

I don't mind the video intro having music or the closeout (I like some in the intro), but I don't want to hear music overlaid on top of the hunt.  I want to hear the sounds of the hunt. 

I don't want a lot of narrative overlaid onto the footage either.  Whatever you have time to share, narrative wise, during the hunt is all I need. 

I do not like to hear a bunch of cussing, including the beeps that cover it.  It makes a person look very unprofessional at best.

I dont care about "smack downs" or any other catch phrases.   Although I have to admit, "Shoot the puffy one" was pretty good.  "Unbelievable" drives me crazy, calling a turkey in is not unbelievable.   Don't try to make it appear that you just accomplished the impossible.

Show some respect for turkeys in the show.  Promote conservation of the bird and habitat.  Im not suggesting promoting an organization, but turkeys.

I like to see some footage of the journey itself and not just kill shots.  I don't have to see a turkey die every couple minutes. 

If a guy wants to use a blind, that's fine, but blind hunts are boring to watch.   

I don't mind if someone wants to use decoys, but I get tired of video guys milking the footage of a turkey acting a fool around a decoy.  There are more than enough guys promoting decoys.

I dont want to watch any so called "reaping".

Watching a hunter have a good time with friends while hunting is not the same as a lot of foolish goofing off.  Primos had taken that to a new level not too many years ago before the video crew all but disbanded ( I still bought the videos out of habit).

If you want to see what I really prefer, watch Born and Raised Outdoors' Land of the Free project (50 consecutive days of elk hunting 5 states) that aired on YouTube over the winter.  Also, The Mountain Project, is currently airing last hunting season on YouTube in a similar day by day 25 minute fashion instead of a short video that compiles the entire hunt like they normally do.  Of course they don't show these in what is considered semi-live fashion because they don't have the ability to edit and upload video while on these hunts.  Born and Raised showed theirs in November/December and The Mountain Project just started airing theirs March 1st.  We get to see a lot more footage instead of two weeks of footage condensed to 20 minutes.

The Hushin guys do the same thing on YouTube with lots of different content.  I really like the way they post their Mule Deer and Elk hunts.

Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: kyturkeyhunter4 on March 09, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Less talking and more hunting
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: lmbhngr on March 09, 2018, 10:32:06 PM
Green grass and not 4' of snow
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: WALKER80 on March 09, 2018, 11:43:25 PM
The same thing you've been doing for years.  I love to see it the way y'all hunt but also understand not wanting to tote a camera every time. 
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Uncle Nicky on March 10, 2018, 07:51:27 AM
One thing that irks me about some videos is the death sequences...over & over again...almost like an ISIS video. Turkeys losing their heads, feathers flying everywhere, even a tannerite explosion in one I saw the other day.  :TrainWreck1:

I get that the whole sport eventually involves life & death, just not so sure the death needs to be glorified so much.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Banana on March 10, 2018, 09:15:39 AM
Hobbes for some calling in a turkey is unbelievable, like me who hasn't been hunting all that long ;D. 

I'm always watching for the educational value.  I don't know a lot and have been learning on my own the last five years.  Everything I can get my hands on I soak up.  I'm more interested in the how a hunter chose their spot before and during the hunt. 
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: hobbes on March 10, 2018, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: Banana on March 10, 2018, 09:15:39 AM
Hobbes for some calling in a turkey is unbelievable, like me who hasn't been hunting all that long ;D. 


I guess that probably is the case for some folks, at times it seems that way for myself.  It's definitely the case for some of the guys I see on YouTube and whenever Im forced to watch the Outdoor or Sportsmans channel. :)

Good luck learning more this season.
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Dtrkyman on March 10, 2018, 12:50:07 PM
Watch a little bit of land of the free 5 states in 50 days elk hunts...great stuff!


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Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: LI Outdoorsman on March 10, 2018, 01:19:26 PM
The only turkey show I really enjoy now is Turkey Call put out by NWTF. They always manage to capture the essence of a real turkey hunt and the camera work is very high quality.
I used to like the old "The Truth" series by the Primos guys before they were famous and Waddell joined the team..
That was real turkey hunts on film!
Now its all product placement and lodge advertising
Although I still tape all shows pertaining to turkey hunting I just scroll thru most of them to hear gobbling and see turkeys unless its in a rare or particularly scenic destination
Title: Re: What is it that you want to see?
Post by: Gobble! on March 10, 2018, 07:03:07 PM
How long till we get some videos of all those Osceola's you're piling up?