Got out to the range today and checked the pattern on my 870. Here are three pictures: 10 yard POA/POI check, 40 yard pattern, and 50 yard pattern, respectively. Should I adjust the sights, or leave it be?
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Are you shooting off a rest? Where you aiming? 40 yards more shot looks high n the next one looks left. Dead birds but w a tight pattern you could miss if poi isn't correct
Same questions for me. Clean or dirty barrel?
Another question is are you aiming for the head? If so, I personally would aim where the skin meets the feathers to help with not shooting high.
Quote from: Yelper on February 21, 2017, 05:43:51 PM
Another question is are you aiming for the head? If so, I personally would aim where the skin meets the feathers to help with not shooting high.
Great point.
Quote from: Yelper on February 21, 2017, 05:43:51 PM
Another question is are you aiming for the head? If so, I personally would aim where the skin meets the feathers to help with not shooting high.
That's what I was getting at aim point wise
50 yarder looks pretty darn splotchy. Aim at the wattles and don't shoot past 40 and you're good. You'll take the head clean off inside 15.
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I was aiming between the waddles and the head. I really don't want to mess with the sights because of how tight it is up close and the fact that the shot is dead on at 10 yards.
Wouldn't adjusting the sights, to get the pattern down at 40, change the POI up close, which could cause me to miss a bird up close?
As mentioned above, if you were not shooting off of a rest then it could just be you...
To answer your last question. You won't notice much poi change at 10 yards from a slight adjustment of the sights. But you will notice more of a poi change at 40 yards from a slight adjustment of the sights.
So, I should be aiming at the waddles? If I would have aimed at the waddles, the 40 yard pattern would be alot better. Not sure there is much that could be done about the 50 yard pattern.
If I adjust the sights to hit more to the right, in order to give the 50 yard shot a better pattern, it will mess up the 40 yard pattern.
I was using a sand bag, but was holding the shotgun with my hand on top of the sandbag. Like most things, I am probably over-thinking this... I have no doubt that I can kill a turkey out to 40 yards with this setup.
I only took one shot at each distance, so there is even a chance the 50 yard pattern could be better than that if I were to shoot it again...
I normally aim for the wattles., think about it very simply. Let's say your pattern was perfect n you aimed for head, at least half the pattern is going into the woods so in a sense you're throwing half a pattern at em.
To get a perfect pattern you gotta shoot more than 3 shells. You want to shoot n see what you're average is. Way I'd do it is be totally rested n get everything right than practice in a turkey shooting position. You're gonna burn a few shells.
Forget the 50 yards hunting anyway
I think your pattern is simply falling to pieces past 40. Either try another load if you think you need to shoot that far or limit yourself to 40 yards and in.
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Quote from: MickT on February 22, 2017, 04:37:12 PM
I think your pattern is simply falling to pieces past 40. Either try another load if you think you need to shoot that far or limit yourself to 40 yards and in.
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40 yards is the limit norm, so I will most likely stick to 40 and under anyways.
I agree with the others...aim at the waddles always you buy yourself maximum room for error. Your pattern is plenty good out to 40 and all patterns struggle beyond that. I wouldn't make much adjustment to that at all considering you stated you aimed at the head. Good luck!! :OGturkeyhead:
All patterns are pretty much starting to drop after 40 yards +\- a few yards. It used to be 30 where a pattern maxed out, then 35.
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Quote from: davisd9 on February 23, 2017, 03:15:56 PM
All patterns are pretty much starting to drop after 40 yards +\- a few yards. It used to be 30 where a pattern maxed out, then 35.
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Weren't the Long Beards supposed to take that number out to 50 or 60, or maybe even 70?
No! That is advertising, not real world.
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I would leave it...and like others said...aim for the waddles....what choke and what load you shooting?
Quote from: jed clampett on February 23, 2017, 09:12:12 PM
I would leave it...and like others said...aim for the waddles....what choke and what load you shooting?
Hevi 13 .662 choke. Win Long Beard 3" #6.