Patterned my 835 here is what I got at 45. Couldn't go out any farther but I think I am good.
835
Indian Creek choke
Winchester Longbeards 3" 1 7/8 #5
Burris Fastfire 3
45 yards(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200319/da1f939c49610f17e1409a13c5ccdedf.jpg)
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You better, Aim Small at any closer distance. LB's are notorious for very tight patterns. Have you shot the LB's at 20 and 30, so you know what they are doing? I shoot the 835 with a .670 Pure Gold choke. I hunt with 3 1/2" Hevi 7's and she puts 300 plus in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards. You definitely have a killing pattern, just be aware of what it will do at 20 and 30 so you'll know how to aim for the much tighter patterns. Good Luck this season!
LB 6's maybe the ticket for that Indian Creek
Oh yeah been using this shell for the past three years. Tried the #6 but they kind of fell apart for some reason after 30 yards. I shot at 10, 20, 25, 30, 40 and 45. Here is a 20 yard picture. I adjusted my red dot to the right a little to center it up. Good luck to you also and stay safe.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200319/fe3fec4d5334007a32d7234280147d0d.jpg)
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We are supposed to limit talk to 40 yards. I know it's only paper and wouldn't harm anything but to my understanding 40 yard anything is max
Yeah 40 is my Max in the woods. Even if I am setting up dekes I out them out no more than 20 yards in front of me. I always carry my range finder when I go out with dekes. That way if they hang up 10 yards short I am still good.
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Just posted that pic, sorry didn't know about the 40 yard rule
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You need to be rock steady at 20 IMO with that pattern. That's tight.
I know right, but it was the best I shot at 30 to 40 also. So I guess you can't have it both ways. That's why I am glad I got the red dot
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6, I have a Bushnell Red dot on top of my 835. If you shoot yours like a rifle and don't get turkey fever you'll be ok. I'm glad to see you have done your homework and shot those LB's at close ranges. Aim small, Miss small.
Yeah I shoot it like a rifle and obviously the heart gets going a little faster when Mr. Tom comes walking in but I usually stay pretty composed.
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That's a great pattern imo.
Quote from: Bowguy on March 19, 2020, 02:23:42 PM
We are supposed to limit talk to 40 yards. I know it's only paper and wouldn't harm anything but to my understanding 40 yard anything is max
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: Yeah if he`s 41 please don't shoot them 5`s will not kill him. :icon_thumright:
Quote from: KentuckyLB on March 24, 2020, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on March 19, 2020, 02:23:42 PM
We are supposed to limit talk to 40 yards. I know it's only paper and wouldn't harm anything but to my understanding 40 yard anything is max
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: Yeah if he`s 41 please don't shoot them 5`s will not kill him. :icon_thumright:
It's someone else's forum n he prefers we limit talk to 40. A man should respect that. I for one think he's on the right track w his thinking. You should read the rules about it. You might learn something about the way our words n thoughts are seen by others be it brothers or enemies.
Quote from: Bowguy on March 24, 2020, 04:47:35 PM
Quote from: KentuckyLB on March 24, 2020, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on March 19, 2020, 02:23:42 PM
We are supposed to limit talk to 40 yards. I know it's only paper and wouldn't harm anything but to my understanding 40 yard anything is max
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: Yeah if he`s 41 please don't shoot them 5`s will not kill him. :icon_thumright:
It's someone else's forum n he prefers we limit talk to 40. A man should respect that. I for one think he's on the right track w his thinking. You should read the rules about it. You might learn something about the way our words n thoughts are seen by others be it brothers or enemies.
Well put.
Quote from: Bowguy on March 24, 2020, 04:47:35 PM
Quote from: KentuckyLB on March 24, 2020, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on March 19, 2020, 02:23:42 PM
We are supposed to limit talk to 40 yards. I know it's only paper and wouldn't harm anything but to my understanding 40 yard anything is max
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: Yeah if he`s 41 please don't shoot them 5`s will not kill him. :icon_thumright:
It's someone else's forum n he prefers we limit talk to 40. A man should respect that. I for one think he's on the right track w his thinking. You should read the rules about it. You might learn something about the way our words n thoughts are seen by others be it brothers or enemies.
Yeah I understand its someone else`s forum , but your beliefs and others with this 40 yard stuff is not accurate or should be taken as 40 yards is the maximum turkeys should be killed. No I am not condoning shooting turkeys at long range , but with todays shells and chokes 40 yards is obsolete and should not stop someone from harvesting a gobbler or they're first turkey. I have mentoring young turkey hunters for a long time this is my 35th season keep letting them walk when they are past 40 ...more for us :icon_thumright:
Doesn't matter what anyone's personal beliefs are, we all have the right but it's the rules of the forum nothing else to discuss
Quote from: KentuckyLB on March 25, 2020, 08:09:06 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on March 24, 2020, 04:47:35 PM
Quote from: KentuckyLB on March 24, 2020, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on March 19, 2020, 02:23:42 PM
We are supposed to limit talk to 40 yards. I know it's only paper and wouldn't harm anything but to my understanding 40 yard anything is max
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny: Yeah if he`s 41 please don't shoot them 5`s will not kill him. :icon_thumright:
It's someone else's forum n he prefers we limit talk to 40. A man should respect that. I for one think he's on the right track w his thinking. You should read the rules about it. You might learn something about the way our words n thoughts are seen by others be it brothers or enemies.
Yeah I understand its someone else`s forum , but your beliefs and others with this 40 yard stuff is not accurate or should be taken as 40 yards is the maximum turkeys should be killed. No I am not condoning shooting turkeys at long range , but with todays shells and chokes 40 yards is obsolete and should not stop someone from harvesting a gobbler or they're first turkey. I have mentoring young turkey hunters for a long time this is my 35th season keep letting them walk when they are past 40 ...more for us :icon_thumright:
I'm with you on this. 40 years ago or back in the days of paper shells and such I feel certain that people thought 40 yards was too far to kill a bird but as technology advanced and shells and internal dynamics of guns got better 40 yards started to look a lot better at "ethical" range. I'm not condoning shooting past 40 but if one comes out past 40 and I've patterned my gun past 40 and know my affective range of my gun then I say it's up to the shooter. I dig this site and think it's great, a lot of great info and great people willing to help you out but I don't think limiting the talk here is going to curve the shooting distance gap. I'd say it's our duty as dedicated turkey hunters and conservationists of the game to talk and educate newcomers to know your equipment, don't just rely on what your buddy tells you is what you need. We need to teach newcomers how to learn their way around equipment and what causes what and what means what and make their own setups they like
Rakkin what size Indian Creek?
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RiverRoost it's not our forum. We have an obligation to the forum owner to follow his rules. Not make your own cause we think we need to. I will add it's our obligation to teach sporting behavior. After all this is sport hunting it's supposed to be sporting.
Shooting anything certain ways will never be sporting. Long distance is one not because of pattern density and could be unethical because of energy variables. There's lots of things that add or detract from that. We will have a limit. How do you know exactly where that is?? You don't. Add as well the avg person doesn't know for sure distances and we've all either heard of a shot taken by others or one taken by us that was too long. We need to consider that and err on the safe side. New folks tend to push things. Take Hail Mary shots, hope they get lucky. We need to impress the game is too valuable for that.
Shannon didn't say you can't do what you want. He said don't talk about it.
In 1980 when I started turkey hunting, Knight & Hale had a cassette tape for beginners. It went over how to use a mouth call (put in your mouth, bent to conform to the roof, say the word chalk). All the sudden, a yelp came out. They also went over ethical shooting range, 25 yards. My old 1100 3 inch mag Remington with a fixed full choke and Duck Pheasant high brass #4's was my baby. 2 beads, I used it for years, shot turkeys. I play a lot of golf, so yardage judgement comes easy. The guns now a days with these new shells and chokes can reach out and touch someone. Optics have centered our patterns, 12 gauges that are as lethal as 10 gauges has changed the look of our sport. I sight all my guns in at 25 yards and occasionally pattern at 30, 35. I feel this is my ethical Max, even though I see peppered paper at longer distances. Turkey hunting always hit me as an up close and personal battle with these wilderness kings. When they strut and gobble inside 30 yards, the ground shakes like an LA earthquake. I will never tell anyone how far is too far, but in my world close is not close enough. Yes, I have let a lot of killable birds walk, only to hope the following season their gobble shakes my world before I pulled the trigger, and slung him over my shoulder. Great forum, great family. I am proud to be a part of it. Thank you.
Great pattern OP. My old Mossberg 500 patterns really well with LB's too. It is what it is I guess but it sucks that your thread turned into a 40 yard rule thread...gotta love it.
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It is a .675 constriction
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