Hi All
A little help requested.
Looking to access a verified WMA and only access is between a small maybe 50ft gap between private properties.
Neighbors have marked it with Private Property and no hunting signs... but you can see WMA signs there as well marking road access.
Went to scout there and a neighbor came out and walked over to truck and told me there's no access... I was cordial and told them I understood and left..
Called and spoke to a local CO and verified that there is access.. what to do??
Print out all land info (prop-boundaries from google maps)? And bring with me? Not really looking to be an a**. But it is in my right.. not looking to make hunters look bad also.
What are experiences from all with this? How'd you handle it?
Thank you
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Walk in n screw the a hole.
I'd tear the private prop signs down in front of him too. He has no right blocking you from access we paid for. Let him know any more nonsense n you'll get him for hunter harassment, he can't prevent you from legally accessing a spot
Yep... thinking the same here Bowguy!! My gut says do it... but no looking for it to get hairy... plus... not looking for crap done to vehicle... maybe will call CO again and have em pull the signs this week...
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We have some land-locked public land here in CA. Really no legal access. and the only way to get on is from permission from one of the nearby property owners...
There are a couple of spots, that have small corners of public access as well... Parking can be the issue here.
However, there are other times, that private owners will put up signs to prevent public use, even if it is not legal. Unfortunately, legal or not, you might return to your car to find slashed tires or other vandalism...
Were it me, I would take a map and go to the local DFG or sheriff's office and ask them where you can enter, and explain your situation (that you would like to be able to legally hunt land that you have a legal right to without breaking any laws or tresspassing).
Quote from: Marc on April 16, 2017, 05:29:24 PM
We have some land-locked public land here in CA. Really no legal access. and the only way to get on is from permission from one of the nearby property owners...
There are a couple of spots, that have small corners of public access as well... Parking can be the issue here.
However, there are other times, that private owners will put up signs to prevent public use, even if it is not legal. Unfortunately, legal or not, you might return to your car to find slashed tires or other vandalism...
Were it me, I would take a map and go to the local DFG or sheriff's office and ask them where you can enter, and explain your situation (that you would like to be able to legally hunt land that you have a legal right to without breaking any laws or tresspassing).
Agreed, let your tax dollars work for you by allowing the authorities to straighten out the situation. If you take matters into your own hands you are going to have stressful and possibly dangerous situations to handle. You may also have legal issues to tend with if you are wrong about the access road.
Makes sense!!
Will let my fingers do the walking and get me into some birds!!!
May opt to MTB in too in real stealth mode...
Opening Day 1 week away!! Good luck everyone!!
Thanks again
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Quote from: Bowguy on April 16, 2017, 04:24:41 PM
Walk in n screw the a hole.
Pretty much my view on it as well. And if he wanted to push the issue I'd hang out after my hunt until the law git there to sort it out. If it turns out I was wrong Id apologize and not come back, if I was right I'd be back the next time I wanted to hunt there.
If your wrong, an appology may not be good enough. Tresspassing is against the law.
If a local CO verified before hand, I wouldn't be be to worried about it.
Quote from: C. Brumfiel on April 16, 2017, 06:14:16 PM
If your wrong, an appology may not be good enough. Tresspassing is against the law.
He said he already contacted the COs.
Get ONX hunt maps n see check further n see who owns it but if the CO told me dif I'd just go
Quote from: guesswho on April 16, 2017, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on April 16, 2017, 04:24:41 PM
Walk in n screw the a hole.
Pretty much my view on it as well. And if he wanted to push the issue I'd hang out after my hunt until the law git there to sort it out. If it turns out I was wrong Id apologize and not come back, if I was right I'd be back the next time I wanted to hunt there.
I'm pretty passive but someone posting public land needs to have their balances checked. Screw that d-bag and shoot "his" gobblers
I know what he said that he had already done, I wouldn't feel comfortable until the CO went to the location and verified it and possibly had a conversation with the land owner. Just not worth the headache to me.
Yep key here will be to let the CO do it... after all.. they are there to support the hunters and their safety !!
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The only way this guy that is posting erroneously will learn his lesson is by getting a ticket.
Agree - contact your local officer AGAIN. Ask the officer to visit the neighboring landowner(s) as they are the ones in the wrong and YOU are the complainant now.
The officer can remove the signs, return them to the neighbor, warn them against littering and damage to public property (assuming they are nailed to trees).
Agreed, also keep in mind that public game lands are open to everyone. Those no trespassing signs are also keeping out others who have a right to hunt there. Those signs should be removed so that others can hunt and not question themselves on whether they are trespassing or not.
I would try to have the conservation officer meet with you and talk to the landowners in person. Let him breakdown the law and explain that their are consequences if they post the wma property and hinder you from hunting it. Let him do all the talking and keep a cool head.
I agree with the others that the warden or CO or whomever should meet you out there and straighten the situation out with both you and the upset land owner, so everyone is on the same page and so there are no future incidents like this as well. You have just as much right to that property as anyone else without being harassed over it.
It seems that this is fairly common in N.J. I was chased off of one WMA by a neighbor because I had inadvertently parked where I shouldn't have. In the "conversation", I said I'd be back and hunting there (although not parking there) and he said that he'd call L/E on me...I'm a little embarrassed to say I didn't go back.
I've seen a number of WMA's, especially the smaller ones with the WMA signs torn down. I have a friend who knows the areas better than me and he says that's pretty much standard operating procedure. Been my experience that he's right...
Man I'm happy I'm in a part of NJ that this doesn't happen. I'm polite but hate taking steps backward especially if someone thinks they're gonna impose their will on me when they're wrong. Get onx maps app. It'll give you gps tax maps. If it is state n it must be the co told you that you call LE n sign a hunter harassment complaint. Insist on it! It's illegal in NJ to prevent or interfere w the lawful taking of game.
I understand trying to be cordial but we paid and still pay for it.
I'd have returned to hunt the wma too. Prob w some loud barkin dogs. Maybe took a loud Harley to scout. They didn't want you to hunt near them, they shouldn't have moved next to a wma. Now respect the boundaries but it's your right to access it if it's legal.
There is a wma about an hour from me. The yuppie yups have money n complained enough the shotgun training range is closed in summer., sound barriers were put up too. Crazy n maybe this is the one you're speaking of.
Don't tell me the wma but what part of state is it?
Sounds like a bunch of a- holes out East
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Quote from: SpurNJ on April 16, 2017, 03:37:27 PM
Hi All
A little help requested.
Looking to access a verified WMA and only access is between a small maybe 50ft gap between private properties.
Neighbors have marked it with Private Property and no hunting signs... but you can see WMA signs there as well marking road access.
Went to scout there and a neighbor came out and walked over to truck and told me there's no access... I was cordial and told them I understood and left..
Called and spoke to a local CO and verified that there is access.. what to do??
Print out all land info (prop-boundaries from google maps)? And bring with me? Not really looking to be an a**. But it is in my right.. not looking to make hunters look bad also.
What are experiences from all with this? How'd you handle it?
Thank you
I replied earlier to this thread, and am wondering what happened? Did the issue get resolved?
This is a relevant issue for many of us on the forum, so please let us know what happens.
As long as I didn't have a kid or an "older" person with me...............GO FOR IT!
As long as you are sure you are being legal, they have no rights.
If you are worried about vehicle damage, a trailcam or 2, placed appropriately should catch them in action.
Place a couple cheapies to cover your vehicle and have at it.
If it gets out of control, don't get physical, just call the local police and let them handle it.
:fud: :OGani:
GOOD GOD. If you followed some of these suggestions you'd get to hunt next year maybe. If your certain and like you said your CO said it was public. Park and hunt it and put a trail cam viewing your truck so if any neighbor does anything you'll have evidence. Along with a note on the window.
Neither of these last two replies actually solve the problem though. It's not about just one man, it's about the rights of all hunters. When issues like this arise, we must stop thinking as individuals and more as united hunters. If not, we are going to continue to lose our rights.
If it's public access they can't deny you unless you listen to what they tell you. The meek may inherit the earth but they're also kept from hunting public areas. Make sure it's legal n just go. I'd actually get a kick out of the foot stomping when you disobeyed them. Heck I wish I could do it
I'd say to make the CO do his job. Very interested to see how this turns out.
Quote from: Bowguy on April 19, 2017, 09:04:39 AM
If it's public access they can't deny you unless you listen to what they tell you. The meek may inherit the earth but they're also kept from hunting public areas. Make sure it's legal n just go. I'd actually get a kick out of the foot stomping when you disobeyed them. Heck I wish I could do it
Bowguy, it's not that I don't understand and that I don't agree with you because I would want to do the same thing. The problem that I see that maybe you don't is if you have to place a camera by your truck to catch someone vandalizing it for going hunting, there's a problem! To my knowledge, the CO hasn't went to the actual location. Memories can be fickle sometime. The hunter could get charged with trespassing if he or the CO is wrong (especially if the CO hasn't visited the site. You know that the CO may change his story after an incident happens). Bad publicity for hunters is bad for our future.
I get it, trust me. The anti sentiment in the state has people hating guns, hunting, etc. they always try to force their will on others n if they're wrong I'd love to see em squirm when you walked right past em. Just the way they squirmed n cried on pillows when Trump won.
No arguments in any area here. I'm just sick of the libtards. Respecting a person is one thing, I agree w it. Imposing their will on me and I'm not stepping back.
You're right about the camera as it's proof but imo they're going to do nothing but call the cops. If they're wrong, let em picket Trenton
Agreed, I think that by taking the high road we can accomplish so much more. As soon as we become aggressive we will look like the bad guy. If the situation requires more then by all means we must protect our rights.
You're def right but I never said to be aggressive. Just walk past em n enjoy the freak show
Once I got onX maps I found out much this happens with sections of public posted as private to keep people out especially narrow access strips.
Quote from: Bowguy on April 19, 2017, 10:44:31 AM
You're def right but I never said to be aggressive. Just walk past em n enjoy the freak show
I know, I was using my words not yours.
Quote from: TauntoHawk on April 19, 2017, 10:50:20 AM
Once I got onX maps I found out much this happens with sections of public posted as private to keep people out especially narrow access strips.
I've personally experienced it myself. I was just thinking this morning about how much open to the public hunting lands go unused because of these types of actions.
Quote from: C. Brumfiel on April 19, 2017, 11:08:28 AM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on April 19, 2017, 10:50:20 AM
Once I got onX maps I found out much this happens with sections of public posted as private to keep people out especially narrow access strips.
I've personally experienced it myself. I was just thinking this morning about how much open to the public hunting lands go unused because of these types of actions.
Don't matter what you do, this guy is gonna be telling you to wait it out or take the team path. If they call the cops then it's settled and you won't have to worry about them again. What does he expect, for 25 people to go out with protest banners to hunt there?
Just going by your name but are you in NJ. If so go back when the fella approaches just ask for his info so that you can press hunter harassment charge. Pretty sure that will be the end of it. Also hit the record button on your cell phone so the entire conversation is recorded. Then go shoot your bird.
Quote from: Poleaxe on April 19, 2017, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: C. Brumfiel on April 19, 2017, 11:08:28 AM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on April 19, 2017, 10:50:20 AM
Once I got onX maps I found out much this happens with sections of public posted as private to keep people out especially narrow access strips.
I've personally experienced it myself. I was just thinking this morning about how much open to the public hunting lands go unused because of these types of actions.
Don't matter what you do, this guy is gonna be telling you to wait it out or take the team path. If they call the cops then it's settled and you won't have to worry about them again. What does he expect, for 25 people to go out with protest banners to hunt there?
More like 50... :OGturkeyhead:
Quote from: mikejd on April 19, 2017, 11:58:11 AM
Just going by your name but are you in NJ. If so go back when the fella approaches just ask for his info so that you can press hunter harassment charge. Pretty sure that will be the end of it. Also hit the record button on your cell phone so the entire conversation is recorded. Then go shoot your bird.
I get what your saying, but the problem is I shouldn't have to go to these lengths.
as mentioned in thread.. it is our right as hunting and licence/permit buyers to access it by the state, so best to let the state CO take the signs down.
I have the guys name via XMaps ... so will give that to CO also in the case he will knock on the door and inform this guy that hes giving false info.
Quote from: SpurNJ on April 19, 2017, 08:10:29 PM
Quote from: mikejd on April 19, 2017, 11:58:11 AM
Just going by your name but are you in NJ. If so go back when the fella approaches just ask for his info so that you can press hunter harassment charge. Pretty sure that will be the end of it. Also hit the record button on your cell phone so the entire conversation is recorded. Then go shoot your bird.
I get what your saying, but the problem is I shouldn't have to go to these lengths.
as mentioned in thread.. it is our right as hunting and licence/permit buyers to access it by the state, so best to let the state CO take the signs down.
I have the guys name via XMaps ... so will give that to CO also in the case he will knock on the door and inform this guy that hes giving false info.
you are going about it the right way, talked to the CO, have them go and remove posted signs and talk to the guy then follow up by hunting.
Pull up a tax map.
Contact the land manager. He or she should resolve it.
I'd look at it this way, the CO says you're good to go. Go hunt. If they call the law, you're fine. Everyone around there still thinks it's posted, but you know it isn't. You just found your very own "private" public WMA.
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Quote from: Uvagobbler on April 17, 2017, 01:57:40 PM
I would try to have the conservation officer meet with you and talk to the landowners in person. Let him breakdown the law and explain that their are consequences if they post the wma property and hinder you from hunting it. Let him do all the talking and keep a cool head.
Do this and you'll have the situation handled quickly. Plus you can take said CO afterwards and buy his breakfast. May find a friend for life and it never hurts to have a CO's cell number on speed dial.
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Quote from: WNCTracker on April 16, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 16, 2017, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on April 16, 2017, 04:24:41 PM
Walk in n screw the a hole.
Pretty much my view on it as well. And if he wanted to push the issue I'd hang out after my hunt until the law git there to sort it out. If it turns out I was wrong Id apologize and not come back, if I was right I'd be back the next time I wanted to hunt there.
I'm pretty passive but someone posting public land needs to have their balances checked. Screw that d-bag and shoot "his" gobblers
They can be fined for posting public land.
The situation I had was the WMA was small (guessing 30 acres). The landowner next door could see the entire field from his house. If he walked outside, with his dog, as he did, he could scare the birds from the field. His dog runs loose and seems somewhat aggressive. I know, by the way he handled the situation that he was a sneaky, weasley kind of guy (he told me I had upset his dog by walking in the WMA). I know I have the right to hunt there, but I just wasn't prepared to ruin a day or more of hunting to get this resolved. He could have all manner of "complaints" to tie up my time both trying to hunt and in court. One call and L/E has to come and investigate so just that ruins your hunt for the day.
In addition, here in N.J., we basically don't have a second amendment right so any encounter with L/E could result in problems that you wouldn't want to deal with. I know it's principle but I don't really want to spend the limited time I have to hunt on contention.
Hopefully somebody with more principle than me will confront the situation and make it better for everyone. Like I say, it's fairly common in N.J. for the signs to be ripped down and for neighboring landowners to chase people off.
Quote from: sixbird on May 22, 2017, 09:04:17 AM
The situation I had was the WMA was small (guessing 30 acres). The landowner next door could see the entire field from his house. If he walked outside, with his dog, as he did, he could scare the birds from the field. His dog runs loose and seems somewhat aggressive. I know, by the way he handled the situation that he was a sneaky, weasley kind of guy (he told me I had upset his dog by walking in the WMA). I know I have the right to hunt there, but I just wasn't prepared to ruin a day or more of hunting to get this resolved. He could have all manner of "complaints" to tie up my time both trying to hunt and in court. One call and L/E has to come and investigate so just that ruins your hunt for the day.
In addition, here in N.J., we basically don't have a second amendment right so any encounter with L/E could result in problems that you wouldn't want to deal with. I know it's principle but I don't really want to spend the limited time I have to hunt on contention.
Hopefully somebody with more principle than me will confront the situation and make it better for everyone. Like I say, it's fairly common in N.J. for the signs to be ripped down and for neighboring landowners to chase people off.
If the dog runs loose film it n show LE. It's illegal. Another thing, Sat the season is over in NJ. The landowner doesn't know that. Go there wearing camo w no gun and "scout" for next spring. You can than deal w the idiot n not ruin a morn. Taking steps backward is not something I'd ever do. Don't let them force their will on you. Use your head n make em pay.
Quote from: sixbird on May 22, 2017, 09:04:17 AM
In addition, here in N.J., we basically don't have a second amendment right so any encounter with L/E could result in problems that you wouldn't want to deal with.
Please explain this sixbird.
I had a similar situation on NF land an old man stopped me on the road and told me it was private land no hunting. There was a gate blocking the logging road. I said ok and left after looking at a better map of the area I realized not only the road but the whole section was NF except for a 100acre pasture next to the guys house. I walked in from the back side and found the NF signs right on the fence row. I hunted a few more times then saw the old man again I told him I knew it was NF he just laughed and walked off can't blame the guy for trying to keep the hordes off his land and the gate and signs I'm sure keep a lot of people from hunting this spot. I always have topo maps of areas I hunt with private land marked so I don't run into this again.
Quote from: kjnengr on May 23, 2017, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: sixbird on May 22, 2017, 09:04:17 AM
In addition, here in N.J., we basically don't have a second amendment right so any encounter with L/E could result in problems that you wouldn't want to deal with.
Please explain this sixbird.
In N.J. our second amendment rights for all intents and purposes doesn't exist. We are "allowed" to own guns by "exception." That's where the permits come in. There are other places like N.J. where ownership is conditioned upon meeting certain qualifiers. Heller, et.al. are, in places superceded by local ordinances...
N.J. is not one of the "free states..."
I'm sure you've all heard about the woman who was moving to, or traveling through N.J. She was stopped and she informed the officer that she had firearms in her car. She ended up in jail and the only way she got out was a pardon from Gov. Christy...It's N.J....
I would verify it with your Game Dept., they can confirm public access points. I would say landowners aren't hunters and have had some bad experiences and are taking it out on everyone that pulls up at that spot. I would also think they know its an access point they just don't like it right next to their property lines. If maps clearly show it's WMA property then they don't have a leg to stand on as long as you don't park on their property.
I hope the author of this post is able to gain access after talking to the right people. Stuff like this should not happen for sure. At a public hunting area that I hunt in New Jersey-- there is a very large sign that displays what is allowed. This sign is at a Trailhead. Allowed uses- Hiking, Mountain biking,--nothing about hunting being allowed- when that should be there and yes, I have the hunt map for this area as well as this area being listed in the yearly hunting issue. Now my Brother in law had a confrontation with a home owner years ago off of East Shore Road in Sterling Forest State Park in New York very close to the NJ border. The homeowner who lived ACROSS the road from the State Land walked over that road and confronted my Brother in law who was about to Spring turkey hunt in that area for the morning and told him that he owned that land and that he had to leave right away. My Brother in law fired back -- you own Sterling Forest State Park and out came the hunting map. The Homeowner walked back across the road. I wish this stuff would stop happening to hunters.
Quote from: quavers59 on August 27, 2017, 01:28:45 PM
out came the hunting map.
I think a really important point to be made about this thread is that all of our hunting activities have moved beyond just getting license and gun and going afield. In this day and age, it requires due diligence, research, and an understanding of wildlife laws and mapping/GPS use in order to be an effective (and legal) hunter. Across the country nowadays, there are way too many people that will try to bluff others out of hunting somewhere. Having and knowing how to read maps is an essential element in what we do, as is knowing and understanding the rules and regulations that apply to hunting in any particular state or location.
I doubt there are many of us here who have not had the experience of having someone try to bamboozle us into leaving a spot we were hunting. Being fully prepared to deal with that situation by being informed and having the ability to verify and prove you know what you are talking about is of no less importance anymore than making sure you have shells for your gun when you leave the truck.
Besides that, it is pretty satisfying to see the look on some A-holes face when the game warden or sheriff tells them that you are perfectly legal to be hunting where you are... ;D ;D
Quote from: quavers59 on August 27, 2017, 01:28:45 PM
I hope the author of this post is able to gain access after talking to the right people. Stuff like this should not happen for sure. At a public hunting area that I hunt in New Jersey-- there is a very large sign that displays what is allowed. This sign is at a Trailhead. Allowed uses- Hiking, Mountain biking,--nothing about hunting being allowed- when that should be there and yes, I have the hunt map for this area as well as this area being listed in the yearly hunting issue. Now my Brother in law had a confrontation with a home owner years ago off of East Shore Road in Sterling Forest State Park in New York very close to the NJ border. The homeowner who lived ACROSS the road from the State Land walked over that road and confronted my Brother in law who was about to Spring turkey hunt in that area for the morning and told him that he owned that land and that he had to leave right away. My Brother in law fired back -- you own Sterling Forest State Park and out came the hunting map. The Homeowner walked back across the road. I wish this stuff would stop happening to hunters.
I'll never get why exactly someone would give not only a large property but a road for people to key in on. Seems crazy. I've read Quavers posts on another forum. At same time he posts the information he complains about company in his spots. Don't you put two and two together??
Quote from: terp on April 22, 2017, 06:15:45 AM
Contact the land manager. He or she should resolve it.
This. It's the land manger/region managers job to maintain order on their properties.
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I have about a fingers worth of Cherokee blood but it gets me access to thousands of acres of tribal land. Had a guy get sideways with me because of his landlocked 60 acers. He has an eisment but basically expected to have about a thousand acers to his self. He threatened to call the sheriff. I said go ahead I'd call the tribal Marshall and I told him to stay on his 60 since he wasn't a tribal member and I'd stay on my thousand. He had a different attitude suddenly.
Just noticed this thread. This situation I've found on both the Wayne National Forest in Ohio and the Daniel Boone NF in KY. Both involved gated access roads. Usually involved no more than parking a distance away and then walking in. Always was apprehensive returning to the truck but never had any problems. Several years ago one of the outdoor magazines did an article on this problem. One group of hunters supposedly used ultra-light aircraft to access some landlocked property in a western state. Takes time but all legal easements and access will be a matter of public record someplace. Good luck.
OnX Maps app is a great tool. Shows the boundaries exactly like the GIS maps would show you from whichever county your in. I just purchased it for my iphone and it's fantastic. I'm learning boundaries on private I hunt are alot different than my estimates, gaining some ground in my favor. It shows you exactly where you are within a few feet. Great tool and has helped many a hunter dispute what was public and what was private. I'd look into it.
Quote from: trkehunr93 on January 24, 2018, 11:19:16 AM
OnX Maps app is a great tool. Shows the boundaries exactly like the GIS maps would show you from whichever county your in. I just purchased it for my iphone and it's fantastic. I'm learning boundaries on private I hunt are alot different than my estimates, gaining some ground in my favor. It shows you exactly where you are within a few feet. Great tool and has helped many a hunter dispute what was public and what was private. I'd look into it.
OnX is a great tool but beware it's not always spot on. For instance it shows my parents property lines being about 30' off to the South but the original survey section marker from the state is in the corner of their yard. In fact most of the state of Oklahoma is 20-30' off north/south.
Well so what happened? Season is coming soon again
Walk through no questions asked. If the person stopped me again I would call the guy who told me it was allowed and let him discuss it will the land owner.
Check on Xhunt maps or the county tax accessor site. Print out a copy of the land plot where the access is and the legal owners info. Just carry it with you just in case. Here in Georgia we have some land locked WMA areas and there's no access. Nothing the hunter can do about. The land owners can stop access to it and the law backs them up. You would think the state would have made sure the public could get to it.
Ask the CO to meet you there one morning after a hunt then take him to the land owner and get it cleared up. Assholes don't behave nicely until they are embarrassed in front of an authority figure. The second route would be to tell him the game warden said the access was ok. I am hunting here but I wont advertise it. Also, I told the game warden what you said and he said that you were welcome to talk to him about it but he didn't want to deal with any nonsense.
If the access is verified by the WCO....don't be concerned. Just be cordial, smile and continue on. I would recommend OnXmaps. Put it on your phone and it will help determine private property. Good Luck
SpurNJ, now that almost a year has passed, did the issue ever get resolved?
Quote from: kjnengr on March 28, 2018, 10:37:26 AM
SpurNJ, now that almost a year has passed, did the issue ever get resolved?
Hey Guys. So I spent my time last Spring Turkey Season thinking about all the comments that were posted and all relevant and valid points!!
I def think the way to go is to call the CO and get his take.
But the reality is that since was and I am putting in about 1 hr drive to the spots I was hunting... I opted to leave this fight alone and go hunt other spots!!
Although the season yielded no harvest... it was a great learning experience!!
I had 3 days last spring ( All on different WMAs )where I had AM Gobbles back at my calls... where they would come in and move away... once you experience that.... I was/am hooked!!
Scouting completely different zones now and larger tracts of land...and although not finding much YET... I'm loving it...
Been out the past 3 weekend !!
Thank you all for the comments and bad on my for the long delay!!
If I go back to that zone... and fight the fight..., I will report back..
I wish you all happy scouting and great hunts this spring !! And Enjoy the time watching the world wake in the turkey woods!!
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