??? Anyone heard of Boss Tom shotshells? Supposed to be a # 6.5 pellet (???) weighing 13g/cc ? Made in America :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an and between $25-$30 / box for the 12 , and $25 for the 20 @ 5 shells per box.
No, and not sure I see any advantage to Hevi 13 based on the description.
Quote from: BINK McCARTY on March 04, 2019, 06:50:49 AM
??? Anyone heard of Boss Tom shotshells? Supposed to be a # 6.5 pellet (???) weighing 13g/cc ? Made in America :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an and between $25-$30 / box for the 12 , and $25 for the 20 @ 5 shells per box.
Would be interesting to try as a hevishot alternative at the same price. I was reading they use ground walnut shells as buffer
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Here's the link.
https://bossshotshells.com/boss-tom-shells/
May make a good waterfowl shell too. Cheaper than Hevi Duck.
I sent these guys a message on their Instagram to ask how the 20 gauge load does. He replied with "Brandon is gonna head outside and take a patterning video for you right now." Stay tuned
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Quote from: Turkeytider on March 04, 2019, 07:39:50 AM
No, and not sure I see any advantage to Hevi 13 based on the description.
Well it does weigh more...not much but more.
Quote from: DBell on March 04, 2019, 01:08:18 PM
I sent these guys a message on their Instagram to ask how the 20 gauge load does. He replied with "Brandon is gonna head outside and take a patterning video for you right now." Stay tuned
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Look forward to that!!!
Quote from: BINK McCARTY on March 04, 2019, 01:54:41 PM
Quote from: DBell on March 04, 2019, 01:08:18 PM
I sent these guys a message on their Instagram to ask how the 20 gauge load does. He replied with "Brandon is gonna head outside and take a patterning video for you right now." Stay tuned
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Look forward to that!!!
Alright this is pretty cool. These guys took the time to go shoot a pattern and send me the video. I took a screen shot of the 40 yard pattern from the end of the video. You could see and hear the wind rippin a fair bit in the video and it's cold as all heck where they are. You can tell most of the shot is in a 20 inch circle (with the majority in the 10). He flips the target around because the POI was off and that's why I took the screen shot when he shows the back of the target;you can see the pattern better).
Choke is a Carlson .575
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Props to these guys for going above and beyond. Might order a few boxes just because that was awesome.
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:icon_thumright: Looks like a darn nice pattern to me
Talked to Brandon on the phone a little bit ago and man was he helpful!!!! He was telling me a little about the product the how and where it's made and mainly it's made in the USA :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an I truly believe that these fellas are onto something here and are very eager to get what I think is gonna be a great alternative to those that want a little more downrange energy than hevi-shot but obviously not as much as TSS but also without the pricetag of TSS into the hands of us turkey hunters.I guess we will see!!!
Boss bird shells are $6 a shell plus shipping. They may be great guys, but I see lead being the tried and true proven economy load and those that used to shoot hevi can now shoot hw or tss for roughly the same cost. I see two groups around me. Set in there way lead shooters and those that want performance and willing to pay for it. Hevi shots just not leading the pack no more.
Winchester xx $1.20 a shell
Longbeard xr $1.80 a shell
Federal hw 7's $3 a shell
20 gauge 1 5/8oz #9 tss. $5.40 a shell
12 gauge 3" 1 3/4oz #9's tss $7.00 a shell
I wish someone would come out with a #7.5 or #8 hw 15g/cc load and priced right. If boss tom would load up a 12 gauge 2oz load of hw 8's I'd have to try a few box's. They got creative and went to the 6.5 hevi, but if hw 8's are possible I think it would get some attention for sure.
Quote from: BINK McCARTY on March 04, 2019, 04:46:46 PM
Talked to Brandon on the phone a little bit ago and man was he helpful!!!! He was telling me a little about the product the how and where it's made and mainly it's made in the USA :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an I truly believe that these fellas are onto something here and are very eager to get what I think is gonna be a great alternative to those that want a little more downrange energy than hevi-shot but obviously not as much as TSS but also without the pricetag of TSS into the hands of us turkey hunters.I guess we will see!!!
You're also getting 1 1/2 oz payload vs hevi shot 1 1/4. I was told 207-210 pellets per ounce. So just over 300 total. Not too bad sounding.
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Quote from: jrmcclure on March 04, 2019, 05:15:42 PM
I wish someone would come out with a #7.5 or #8 hw 15g/cc load and priced right. If boss tom would load up a 12 gauge 2oz load of hw 8's I'd have to try a few box's. They got creative and went to the 6.5 hevi, but if hw 8's are possible I think it would get some attention for sure.
Now THAT is a GRRRRREAT sounding idea!!! I love the Boss Tom idea but I have been hung up on the Federal Heavyweight load since its inception but let's face it there are just not too many choke tubes it shot well with because of that stinkin FCW and now federal has left the 15g/cc shot behind and moved on to the TSS world. But I think the sphero tungsten is a great compromise between hevi and TSS.
Quote from: jrmcclure on March 04, 2019, 05:04:43 PM
Boss bird shells are $6 a shell plus shipping. They may be great guys, but I see lead being the tried and true proven economy load and those that used to shoot hevi can now shoot hw or tss for roughly the same cost. I see two groups around me. Set in there way lead shooters and those that want performance and willing to pay for it. Hevi shots just not leading the pack no more.
Winchester xx $1.20 a shell
Longbeard xr $1.80 a shell
Federal hw 7's $3 a shell
20 gauge 1 5/8oz #9 tss. $5.40 a shell
12 gauge 3" 1 3/4oz #9's tss $7.00 a shell
Well, looked at 3" mag 12's and they're packed 20 in a box by their ad at 31.00 per box. Looks like 1.55 a round before tax and shipping. :camohat:
Quote from: lowoctane on March 05, 2019, 04:40:35 PM
Quote from: jrmcclure on March 04, 2019, 05:04:43 PM
Boss bird shells are $6 a shell plus shipping. They may be great guys, but I see lead being the tried and true proven economy load and those that used to shoot hevi can now shoot hw or tss for roughly the same cost. I see two groups around me. Set in there way lead shooters and those that want performance and willing to pay for it. Hevi shots just not leading the pack no more.
Winchester xx $1.20 a shell
Longbeard xr $1.80 a shell
Federal hw 7's $3 a shell
20 gauge 1 5/8oz #9 tss. $5.40 a shell
12 gauge 3" 1 3/4oz #9's tss $7.00 a shell
Well, looked at 3" mag 12's and they're packed 20 in a box by their ad at 31.00 per box. Looks like 1.55 a round before tax and shipping. :camohat:
looks like turkey loads are packed 5 to a box to me.
Waterfowl large shot loads look to be 20 rounds though.
Quote from: owlhoot on March 05, 2019, 05:15:30 PM
Quote from: lowoctane on March 05, 2019, 04:40:35 PM
Quote from: jrmcclure on March 04, 2019, 05:04:43 PM
Boss bird shells are $6 a shell plus shipping. They may be great guys, but I see lead being the tried and true proven economy load and those that used to shoot hevi can now shoot hw or tss for roughly the same cost. I see two groups around me. Set in there way lead shooters and those that want performance and willing to pay for it. Hevi shots just not leading the pack no more.
Winchester xx $1.20 a shell
Longbeard xr $1.80 a shell
Federal hw 7's $3 a shell
20 gauge 1 5/8oz #9 tss. $5.40 a shell
12 gauge 3" 1 3/4oz #9's tss $7.00 a shell
Well, looked at 3" mag 12's and they're packed 20 in a box by their ad at 31.00 per box. Looks like 1.55 a round before tax and shipping. :camohat:
looks like turkey loads are packed 5 to a box to me.
Waterfowl large shot loads look to be 20 rounds though.
I saw 12 ga 3"x5's. Dunno... :camohat:
yes great deal for 5's in the red boxes .
For the turkey 6.5 shot .
go to home , then scroll down to boss life. you'll see the boxes , and the description will come up as you hover over it.
Best I can tell the turkey loads are 5 to a box and waterfowl loads are 20. Not really a terrible price for the waterfowl loads, velocity's from 1250-1450 may not pattern the tightest and seems to be just 4's and 5's. I'm still waiting on the hw 8's, but seems everyone just skipped straight to tss #9's.
I shot the Boss waterfowl this year on ducks with the 20 ga. Its a killer in the 20. It's much better than steel same weight as bismuth 9.6 or so g/cc. The turkey loads are 13 g/cc.
I have heard the owner on a few podcast and he goes into detail on the Boss Tom. Seems to be great guys everything they do is 100% USA Made. :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
This is why they don't have 18g/cc tss because it's not made in US.
Turkey loads are 5/box
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Great info! Thx! Guess I'm gonna try the waterfowl loads and see if I can get a pattern as I'm not a shooter of TSS. Curious how they'll stack up against LB's... :camohat:
Talked to Brandon and ended up ordering a box of 20 in 3"x5. He recommended a factory full choke, so we'll soon see... :camohat:
Alright so here's some boss tom patterns
Remington 870 21" barrel
Trulock .565
Bead site
40 Degrees F
Light and intermittent breeze
All shots at 40 yards measured
Targets show hits in the 10 inch circle and hits 2-3 inches outside of the circle.
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If I only play the number of hits in the 10 game, it doesn't look great, but it did throw a pretty even hunting pattern with room for error
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Quote from: lowoctane on March 06, 2019, 03:35:01 PM
Talked to Brandon and ended up ordering a box of 20 in 3"x5. He recommended a factory full choke, so we'll soon see... :camohat:
12 or 20 gauge?
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I will stick to tss hut best of luck
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Quote from: gobblers roost on March 19, 2019, 12:39:05 PM
I will stick to tss hut best of luck
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I won't be hunting with these. Mostly just wanted to test em. Company seems like some great guys. Unfortunately we can't use anything smaller than 6 here, so no point using TSS for me. Sticking with longbeards and grand slam
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That's ashame hope they pass the law to use tss 7 or 9's
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Hey guys, I have to give an update on the boss tom loads. I don't like to report bad news but out of two five round boxes (I originally bought 4 boxes), I had 2 "dud" rounds. The first one made a fizzle sound when I fired, had no recoil, and the wad was actually stuck in the choke tube. After getting the wad out, I took the barrel off and looked down and it was full of unburned powder. I took pic and video and sent it to boss. They did right and sent me another box, saying that it could have been the cold temps and the fact that they use a slow burning powder. I don't think that was the case as it was 40 degrees that day. (The rest of shells in the box shot with no problems as well as 4 shells from the second box). Today (several weeks later) I decided to shoot some more rounds and had 1 shell left from box #2. I fired and it made a good pop as if it fired fine, but there was hardly any recoil and all the shot hit about 2 feet in front of my 3ft x 2ft target. I reported this to Boss, they have read my message but no response yet. I told them that I now have 3 boxes of this ammo that I will not ever trust in the field.
If you owned a company, how would you go about making this right?
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Quote from: DBell on April 05, 2019, 02:29:48 PM
Hey guys, I have to give an update on the boss tom loads. I don't like to report bad news but out of two five round boxes (I originally bought 4 boxes), I had 2 "dud" rounds. The first one made a fizzle sound when I fired, had no recoil, and the wad was actually stuck in the choke tube. After getting the wad out, I took the barrel off and looked down and it was full of unburned powder. I took pic and video and sent it to boss. They did right and sent me another box, saying that it could have been the cold temps and the fact that they use a slow burning powder. I don't think that was the case as it was 40 degrees that day. (The rest of shells in the box shot with no problems as well as 4 shells from the second box). Today (several weeks later) I decided to shoot some more rounds and had 1 shell left from box #2. I fired and it made a good pop as if it fired fine, but there was hardly any recoil and all the shot hit about 2 feet in front of my 3ft x 2ft target. I reported this to Boss, they have read my message but no response yet. I told them that I now have 3 boxes of this ammo that I will not ever trust in the field.
If you owned a company, how would you go about making this right?
Send you a prepaid return label and offer you a refund or 3 new boxes of ammunition + 2 extra boxes for your inconvenience
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Quote from: Liljake on April 05, 2019, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: DBell on April 05, 2019, 02:29:48 PM
Hey guys, I have to give an update on the boss tom loads. I don't like to report bad news but out of two five round boxes (I originally bought 4 boxes), I had 2 "dud" rounds. The first one made a fizzle sound when I fired, had no recoil, and the wad was actually stuck in the choke tube. After getting the wad out, I took the barrel off and looked down and it was full of unburned powder. I took pic and video and sent it to boss. They did right and sent me another box, saying that it could have been the cold temps and the fact that they use a slow burning powder. I don't think that was the case as it was 40 degrees that day. (The rest of shells in the box shot with no problems as well as 4 shells from the second box). Today (several weeks later) I decided to shoot some more rounds and had 1 shell left from box #2. I fired and it made a good pop as if it fired fine, but there was hardly any recoil and all the shot hit about 2 feet in front of my 3ft x 2ft target. I reported this to Boss, they have read my message but no response yet. I told them that I now have 3 boxes of this ammo that I will not ever trust in the field.
If you owned a company, how would you go about making this right?
Send you a prepaid return label and offer you a refund or 3 new boxes of ammunition + 2 extra boxes for your inconvenience
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I was thinking the same. I would be fine with a full refund. They read my message several hours ago but have not responded. I'm thinking of sending another asking for a refund.
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