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Title: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: Tca126 on April 10, 2021, 03:42:50 PM
I purchased a sumtoy mount for my vortex venom 3 moa on my 301. Mounted both without issues. Went to the range today and started with dove loads at 10 yards. Was consistently 18"-20" low. Ran out of adjustment and could only get the center of the pattern to hit 5" low. Even tried going back to the stock picatinny rail with the venom but had the same results. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: rakkin6 on April 10, 2021, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: Tca126 on April 10, 2021, 03:42:50 PM
I purchased a sumtoy mount for my vortex venom 3 moa on my 301. Mounted both without issues. Went to the range today and started with dove loads at 10 yards. Was consistently 18"-20" low. Ran out of adjustment and could only get the center of the pattern to hit 5" low. Even tried going back to the stock picatinny rail with the venom but had the same results. Any suggestions?
You could try to shim the sight and that should add enough elevation correction.


https://www.umtactical.com/store/p5/Delrin_Shim_1.0_Degree_for_Vortex_Venom_%26_Viper%2C_Burris_Fastfire_II%2C_III%2C_Docters_and_Sightmark_Optics.html




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Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: Fl strutter on April 10, 2021, 04:55:07 PM
Run the elevation adjustment all the way up and down till it maxes out each way 3 or 4 times alot of people have had this problem and this fixes it. If not they will replace it with their warranty.
Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: Tca126 on April 10, 2021, 05:01:28 PM
FL strutter.... I tried that also to no avail. It wouldn't adjust any further.
Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: Tca126 on April 10, 2021, 05:21:29 PM
So adding a couple shims would bring my center point of impact up?
Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: Fl strutter on April 10, 2021, 05:23:02 PM
Yes you can cut small pieces of aluminum can to shim it I've had to do that before also. May take 2 pieces.
Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: Tca126 on April 10, 2021, 05:35:26 PM
Gonna try a shim from the link that was suggested above. Will the existing screws work or will I need longer ones? Also, will the ship sit between the optic and the mount or the barrel and the mount?
Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: rakkin6 on April 10, 2021, 06:27:00 PM
Optic and mount I would suggest you probably only need one. That gives you a 1° elevation change. You can order 2 to be on the safe side but I bet one will do.

Screws should be long enough.
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Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: Tca126 on April 10, 2021, 08:12:40 PM
I ordered 2 to be safe. To confirm, the shim goes between the red dot mount and the rail mount?
Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: rakkin6 on April 10, 2021, 08:20:23 PM
Yes between red dot and mount.

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Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: Tca126 on April 11, 2021, 08:07:47 AM
Thanks. Will give it a shot when they arrive.
Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: SumToy on April 12, 2021, 08:07:21 AM
Quote from: Fl strutter on April 10, 2021, 04:55:07 PM
Run the elevation adjustment all the way up and down till it maxes out each way 3 or 4 times alot of people have had this problem and this fixes it. If not they will replace it with their warranty.


This works.    I have seen a bunch of folks with the Vortex doing this.   It happen few years ago and looks like it back.   It is crazy but works. 
Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: perrytrails on April 12, 2021, 08:20:53 AM
Quote from: Fl strutter on April 10, 2021, 04:55:07 PM
Run the elevation adjustment all the way up and down till it maxes out each way 3 or 4 times alot of people have had this problem and this fixes it. If not they will replace it with their warranty.
Nailed it. That fixed mine also
Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: Tca126 on April 12, 2021, 03:54:38 PM
Tried maxing it out and bringing at back down, but it did not work.
Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on April 12, 2021, 07:29:22 PM
Did you max out in both directions 3 or 4 times in succession?

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Title: Re: Stevens 301 red dot sight in issues..
Post by: Tca126 on April 13, 2021, 09:00:44 PM
Yes wouldn't bring the pattern up though.