Ok, I'll be the first to admit I jumped on the hevi-13 bandwagon.
Now, If I can't get good patterns out of the newer shells I bought, I'm in a pickle.
I have tried the 3'' win supreme elites with limited success, and I wonder if the 3.5's would shoot decent out of a 20" barrel.
I have heard, and was wondering if 3.5's don't pattern well out of short barreled guns.
Is this a myth, or does it entail more trips to the patterning board to see.
jebs chokes WE are not having problems pattering any shells . Rem/win/hevi/nitro/fed/kent/fieocy/S&b /hand loads.lead /copper/bismath/nicole/hevi/. 2.75/3"/3.5" old or new.Wish you could come to Hazlehurst to shoot with us Chatter box turkeyhunter
IC or a kicks and lead
Before you get new shells try the shells from em. If you go with the Winchester xtr shells your patterns still won't be that much better then the em #7s.
What kind of choke are you using?
NONE! :fud:
i bet i looked at 25 to 30 patterns today. just about all of them where made by H13. I did not see one pattern that i would not take to the woods.
NOT EVERYONES having patterning problems !!
I switched from lead to hevi magnum blend this year and they pattern amazing in my gym. I keep hearing people complaining about this years batch of heavy, but I still haven't seen anything come close to performing the way Hevis do. With that said, I have not tried Nitros and won't for that price.
Winchester Xtended, NITRO or start hand loading (which is what i'm gonna do) :icon_thumright:
Quote from: drum817 on March 19, 2011, 06:21:30 PM
Winchester Xtended, NITRO or start hand loading (which is what i'm gonna do) :icon_thumright:
Best reliable options !
Quote from: VAHUNTER on March 19, 2011, 06:11:45 PM
i bet i looked at 25 to 30 patterns today. just about all of them where made by H13. I did not see one pattern that i would not take to the woods.
:agreed: X2
Thanks for the imput guys. I haven't scrapped the idea of hevi-13 totally. I'm going to the range a week from tuesday, and I will see what the ol' girl does then! If I can get numbers I'm used to, then I will consider myself good to go!
Quote from: OLE RASPY on March 20, 2011, 12:01:50 AM
Quote from: hookedspur on March 19, 2011, 06:17:14 PM
NOT EVERYONES having patterning problems !!
x2
Who knows if I'm having a patterning problem or not. Didn't shoot the 7s last year and haven't saw the results of any compairison. 835, IC675, HS 3.5 - 2.25 - #7 - 277 and 284. I don't see a problem but I'm curious if last years shells would put higher #s. Not that I think I need them just curious.
Last years H-13 7's numbers were out of this world and this years loads may not be the same for some people but they still throw patterns that a sane person cannot walk away from. H-13 is still one of the best turkey load options on the market without a doubt.
When I first got into turkey hunting YEARS ago one of the first things that I learned was to make sure you pattern your gun. Find the best shell & choke combo for the gun that you want to shoot. And when you find that combination that makes you happy, "Go out and buy as many shells with the same lot number as you think you could possibly need as the ammo can and will change in pattern from lot to lot." Now I was told this over 20 years ago and the same thing holds true today. If you find that shell & choke combo that makes you all giddy like a little school girls then you better go buy more of the same lot number cause there is a good chance that you won't get the same exact results with another lot number in the future.
Same thing happens with automobiles. Why is it that a 1986 Ford 150 302 V-8 5.0 liter engine able to get 20+ miles per gallon on the highway but no other newer F150 with the same engine ever able to achieve such mileage. Ford won't tell you.....
Its no different than allot things in life.....
bird
Quotethey pattern amazing in my gym
You pattern your shotgun in your gym? :TooFunny:
Quote from: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 20, 2011, 09:39:08 AM
Quotethey pattern amazing in my gym
You pattern your shotgun in your gym? :TooFunny:
I bet thats good for the ears
IMO, Bird hit the proverbial "Nail on the head". Buying significant quantities of the same Lot #'s of any given ammunition which delivers outstanding performance in any type of firearm is the prudent thing to do. However, I think a lot of "old" turkey hunters like myself have done just that, only to see a "newer and better" turkey load come out with performance which eclipses the "old-best load". I'm sitting on 10-12 boxes of the Activ 3", 21/4 oz Nickle loads, which in their day, were the best turkey loads I'd ever patterned and which accounted for a number of dead turkeys. I then loaded up significantly on the Remington 3' and 31/2" Hevi-shot shells which amazed me. I've shot most of my "old whites" and moved to the EM Hevi-13 gold hull with phenomenal patterning and killing results. I didn't "rat hole" a lot of the Hevi-13, 7's, since I figured they wouldn't tinker w/ such a proven performer and I felt that it was only a matter of time before some company jumped on the TSS bandwagon w/ a factory offering. Well, I know that I've got a huge inventory of "turkey killing" shells, but I'm just as anal as most of the folks on this site and have become entranced w/ the unbelievable performance of the new generation of factory turkey loads.
Stock up,IMO the factory ammo isn't going to get any better than it is now....There are people in higher places that will see to that! And I sure don't expect to see any TSS loads ever offered to the public...unless of course they only shoot just a little better than lead.I beleive those new EM 7's last year were just to good to keep selling...
Quote from: decoykrvr on March 20, 2011, 01:36:42 PM
IMO, Bird hit the proverbial "Nail on the head". Buying significant quantities of the same Lot #'s of any given ammunition which delivers outstanding performance in any type of firearm is the prudent thing to do. However, I think a lot of "old" turkey hunters like myself have done just that, only to see a "newer and better" turkey load come out with performance which eclipses the "old-best load". I'm sitting on 10-12 boxes of the Activ 3", 21/4 oz Nickle loads, which in their day, were the best turkey loads I'd ever patterned and which accounted for a number of dead turkeys.
I then loaded up significantly on the Remington 3' and 31/2" Hevi-shot shells which amazed me.
I've shot most of my "old whites" and moved to the EM Hevi-13 gold hull with phenomenal patterning and killing results. I didn't "rat hole" a lot of the Hevi-13, 7's, since I figured they wouldn't tinker w/ such a proven performer and I felt that it was only a matter of time before some company jumped on the TSS bandwagon w/ a factory offering. Well, I know that I've got a huge inventory of "turkey killing" shells, but I'm just as anal as most of the folks on this site and have become entranced w/ the unbelievable performance of the new generation of factory turkey loads.
I sure do remember those shells. I too had a boat load of those shells. In fact I gave the last box I had of those to CASH last year. Oops, I take that back as I kept one box of the #6 just for shooting waterfowl inside the city limits here in town.
I SHOT THE 3" HEVI 13 SHELLS IN THE 6 AND 7 SHOT.
AT 40 YDS I GOT 160 SOMETHING IN A 10" CIRCLE AND WITH THE 7'S I GOT 179.. STILL THE BEST PATTERNING AMMO I HAVE CAME ACROSS AND I TRIED 5 OR 6 DIFFERENT ONES. I WILL STILL TAKE THE HEVI 13 AMMO HUNTIN AND I DIDNT SHOOT ANY LAST YEAR SO I HAVE NO OLD NUMBERS TO GO OFF OF.