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Title: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: JeffC on June 08, 2022, 06:32:45 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-jersey-bill-would-require-landowners-to-notify-neighbors-before-hunting-their-own-land
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: guesswho on June 08, 2022, 06:49:43 PM
Tell my neighbors when I'm going to be hunting my land?   Yeah, good luck with that.
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: GobbleNut on June 08, 2022, 06:51:20 PM
It will be interesting to see how much traction this gets.  I foresee a lot of litigation if this goes anywhere.  We'll see...
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: falltoms on June 08, 2022, 07:42:45 PM
The morons that come up with these ridiculous laws, have to be on drugs, they are evil and anti American as it gets
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: Zobo on June 08, 2022, 09:10:40 PM
This is scary. You'd be required to get written permission from all abutters before you can hunt your own property. What if they say "no, I rather you not".  This is wacko crazy and in essence is an attempt to end hunting in NJ.
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: Dtrkyman on June 08, 2022, 09:17:04 PM
This goes a bit further but many places have similar laws in place.  Hunting x amount of distance from an inhabited dwelling without permission is illegal.  100 yards archery and shotgun with shot, 300 yards with slugs.

Think it was 150 in another place I checked this spring.

I hunted an urban area a lot, used to range neighboring houses all the time when setting up.  Had a killer duck hole 108 yards from a neighbor once.
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: Zobo on June 08, 2022, 09:30:34 PM
If the intention is written permission is required to hunt within a certain distance to a neighbor's dwelling than yes, that's not uncommon. But if its not limited to that situation than it's nuts.
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: RutnNStrutn on June 08, 2022, 10:29:39 PM
Quote from: guesswho on June 08, 2022, 06:49:43 PM
Tell my neighbors when I'm going to be hunting my land?   Yeah, good luck with that.
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Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: RutnNStrutn on June 08, 2022, 10:35:56 PM
Yeah right. I own my land. It is legal for me to hunt on it. I'll be damned if I notify ANYONE what I'm doing on MY land.
And again, as I have posted several times in the past, there are lots of anti's trying to end hunting overall. That's why when we, as fellow hunters support outlawing methods of hunting that we don't like, all we are doing is helping the anti's screw every hunter, including yourself.

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Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: Dtrkyman on June 09, 2022, 12:37:34 PM
I am not in support of this at all, however have any of you hunted urban areas?  I have a lot for whitetail, can sit and your stand and watch the neighbor have their morning coffee in their kitchen!

I lived on a few acres for years, and had a power line right of way behind me, was in city limits so no hunting allowed, and I doubt my neighbors would have cared anyway.

These urban areas are stacked with houses, all archery hunting, shooting a deer is just about a guarantee it will wind up on someone else's property.  The spots I hunted luckily bordered public land with no hunting allowed and the deer always wound up back there.

Many places are not worth hunting, neighbors are not going to allow to retrieve game anyway. Good luck getting multiple land owners in Jersey to allow you to hunt or retrieve game!

Crazy thing is those urban areas are loaded with bears from what I hear in that state.
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: Tail Feathers on June 09, 2022, 03:32:39 PM
So if the neighbor doesn't acknowledge the hunter's letter, the hunter can't hunt his own plalce?  Surely this won't pass or hold up.


And what about foreign land owners?  Or those out of state?   How do you reach them? This is idiotic.
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: guesswho on June 09, 2022, 03:55:38 PM
I'm just going to holler fore after I shoot, like you do after an errant shot on the golf course.
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: Cowboy on June 10, 2022, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: falltoms on June 08, 2022, 07:42:45 PM
The morons that come up with these ridiculous laws, have to be on drugs, they are evil and anti American as it gets
Agreed.  The lawmakers on this are stupid clowns. This mentality has overtaken society.

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Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: M,Yingling on June 11, 2022, 07:36:25 AM
thats how pa is except archery is 50 yrds
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: Sir-diealot on June 11, 2022, 09:01:23 AM
You do not have to get permission to hunt your own land but you do have to be so far from a dwelling here in NY though I do not know how far away that is. Well I went and looked it up, this is how it reads.

Discharging a Firearm while Hunting near Dwellings

The Environmental Conservation Law (ECL) generally prohibits discharge of firearms within 500 feet of a dwelling or other occupied structure, unless permission is received from the owner. However, for waterfowl hunting, the NYS Legislature recognized that human settlement patterns and waterfowl habits warranted special consideration. When hunting ducks or geese that congregate on near-shore waters, it is safer for a hunter to shoot away from shore than to shoot toward shore from open water. In recognition of this, the ECL specifies that when hunting waterfowl and shooting over water, discharge of firearms within 500 feet of a dwelling is allowed, as long as there is not any dwelling, public structure, livestock, or person within 500 feet of the shooter in the direction they are shooting (ECL Section 11-0931).

A waterfowl hunter may legally hunt from shore, a boat, or blind even if there is a house less than 500 feet behind him or her, as long as shooting occurs out over the water and away from the house.
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: Turkeybutt on June 14, 2022, 06:43:40 AM
Good luck with that bill.  Does anybody know where I can get some of the stuff those legislators are smoking!
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: Ol timer on June 15, 2022, 08:06:08 AM
Quote from: Turkeybutt on June 14, 2022, 06:43:40 AM
Good luck with that bill.  Does anybody know where I can get some of the stuff those legislators are smoking!
Yes go to Downtown Trenton NJ.
Capital Blgd. Ask for Phil.
Title: Re: NJ anti hunters new state bill
Post by: Sir-diealot on June 15, 2022, 04:01:05 PM
Quote from: Ol timer on June 15, 2022, 08:06:08 AM
Quote from: Turkeybutt on June 14, 2022, 06:43:40 AM
Good luck with that bill.  Does anybody know where I can get some of the stuff those legislators are smoking!
Yes go to Downtown Trenton NJ.
Capital Blgd. Ask for Phil.
Perhaps he will run into some Haitian soldiers while he is there?