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Title: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: davisd9 on March 22, 2019, 12:18:26 PM
Who wears gloves when calling with trumpets? I think I have decided to just leave the gloves at home since I use trumpets as much as I do. Really do not want to put paint or anything on my hands to have to clean off and do not think bare hands will hurt anything. Thoughts or opinions?


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Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: gergg on March 22, 2019, 12:33:02 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on March 22, 2019, 12:18:26 PM
Who wears gloves when calling with trumpets? I think I have decided to just leave the gloves at home since I use trumpets as much as I do. Really do not want to put paint or anything on my hands to have to clean off and do not think bare hands will hurt anything. Thoughts or opinions?


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I do the same thing, gloves just deaden the trumpet, can't stand wearing them. I do have a pair of wool gloves that have no fingers, just slip over the thumb, I wear them and then flip them back over my hand when calling. Depends on how cold it is.
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: silverspur on March 22, 2019, 12:47:43 PM
when I am running a trumpet in the woods hunting, I take my gloves off. I just cant do it with them on and make the trumpet sound good.
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: Chris O on March 22, 2019, 01:14:45 PM
I wear brown jersey gloves with the middle 2 fingers cut off just past the first knuckle. I learned from last year that it's different wearing gloves. I don't feel right with bare skin showing. I don't know for sure if gloves actually change the sound of the call that the turkey hears but it sure makes it sound different to your ears while playing. I recorded myself wearing gloves  last year and it still sounded like my calling .
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: Rapscallion Vermilion on March 22, 2019, 01:43:38 PM
Gloves and trumpets don't play well together for me either.  I put Carbo Mask on the back of my hands. Doesn't rub off on stuff, but comes off easily with makeup wipes.
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: EZ on March 22, 2019, 01:47:33 PM
I have all the fingers cut out of my gloves and that helps a lot. It still muffles the sound a little though. Maybe we should look into these: (in black)

https://www.justworkgloves.co.uk/Disposable-Gloves/Nitrile-Gloves

Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: Happy on March 23, 2019, 08:37:17 PM
These help(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190324/85ef76c1a8601068433ac0977a63408e.jpg)
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: davisd9 on March 23, 2019, 10:07:45 PM
I have tried gloves with the fingers cut out but the palm seems to muffle the sound. I have hunted since Wednesday with no gloves and it does not seem to have mattered so far. Del mentioned a palmless duck calling glove that would probably work well but I think I may try the stuff Mr. Mike recommended or burnt cork. Just could not think of a turkey that I killed because I was wearing gloves or one that got away because I did not have any on. Only reason i started wearing them was because I was told you had to. I appreciate all the comments!
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: crow on March 24, 2019, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: EZ on March 22, 2019, 01:47:33 PM
I have all the fingers cut out of my gloves and that helps a lot. It still muffles the sound a little though. Maybe we should look into these: (in black)

https://www.justworkgloves.co.uk/Disposable-Gloves/Nitrile-Gloves



Show up in the woods with those rubber gloves and a cowhorn yelper and you will scare half the gobblers into silence, thinking it's a stethoscope and your there for the yearly spring doctors checkup
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: EZ on March 24, 2019, 03:21:33 PM
Quote from: crow on March 24, 2019, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: EZ on March 22, 2019, 01:47:33 PM
I have all the fingers cut out of my gloves and that helps a lot. It still muffles the sound a little though. Maybe we should look into these: (in black)

https://www.justworkgloves.co.uk/Disposable-Gloves/Nitrile-Gloves



Show up in the woods with those rubber gloves and a cowhorn yelper and you will scare half the gobblers into silence, thinking it's a stethoscope and your there for the yearly spring doctors checkup


Lol, not a bad idea!!!
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: Gobbler428 on March 26, 2019, 03:55:24 PM
I just take mine off when I'm running the trumpet and put them back on if I get the chance. if not. I just go without them.
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: ol bob on March 26, 2019, 05:49:41 PM
Why not just cut the palms out? leave the fingers and cuff.
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: gergg on March 26, 2019, 06:50:11 PM
These work good if it is cold out.

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/norwegian-military-surplus-wool-wrist-warmers-3-pair-new?a=2078507
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: 2nd 100 on April 01, 2019, 01:21:11 PM
When setting up old school , in front of the tree , I still use mechanix gloves or Bob Allen shooting gloves and do not think it has hurt my success in the last 2 yrs running trumpets almost exclusively. But Damn I hate gloves using scratchboxes. I can't seem to get the stroke right with them on . but the trumpets are working fine thru gloved hands . Maybe they help me tone down some IDK, being hard of hearing I do call loud on all callers.
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: LabsRUsII on April 02, 2019, 07:59:10 AM
I use camoskinz gloves- thin and form fitting. tried with and without  not much different, but depends on how cold it is, too
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: Jobugg12 on April 02, 2019, 09:12:30 AM
I had some thin dark brown leather gloves that worked good, but lost them..........
Title: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: davisd9 on April 03, 2019, 08:42:47 AM
Rapscallion Vermilion did a spectrogram of me calling with gloves and without from sound files I sent him.

Gloves were tight fitting with fingers cut out.

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We both felt we could hear a difference but was not sure if it was just us thinking we heard a difference, well the spectrogram showed the truth.

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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190403/85bbb72d18d47a509964463c91e10ccf.jpg)


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Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: Chris O on April 03, 2019, 01:25:19 PM
That's interesting!!!  Is that a big difference between the two? From his point of view that actually knows what he is looking at?
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: ChiefBubba on April 03, 2019, 01:51:00 PM
Yea I'm just a dumb country boy. WTH Does that mean? Looks to me like I might be having a stroke or heart attack. Lol Bubba
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: Rapscallion Vermilion on April 03, 2019, 04:10:47 PM
Bubba, you're gonna be alright.  ;D  Lovett Williams has pages and pages of these for different turkey sounds he recorded for his book Voice and Vocabulary of the Wild Turkey.  Horizontal axis is time in seconds, so the entire window left to right is about 1.7 seconds.  Vertical axis is frequency in kilohertz.  You can see the dominant note of davisd9's trumpet is around 1 kilohertz, which is right in line with what Lovett Williams says is the median pitch for the plain yelps he has recorded.  Color brightness towards green to yellow is louder, black is no sound at that time and frequency.  The Gloves spectrogram has weaker peaks by about 2 to 3 decibels and the peaks are a little less defined.  You can see that the Gloves example has more low level hash or noise in the background at mid to lower frequencies.  That's only there when he's playing, so it is sound coming out of the trumpet, but is being taken out of the main notes and thrown into this background. In the No Gloves example, you can more clearly see the higher frequency leading edge to each yelp around 1.6 kilohertz (a kee note), followed by the dominant note with some rollover. That leading edge is a bit harder to see in the Gloves example. If you were to make an analogy with a photograph, you would say the No Gloves one was a sharper image with more contrast.
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: wchadw on October 27, 2019, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: Happy on March 23, 2019, 08:37:17 PM
These help(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190324/85ef76c1a8601068433ac0977a63408e.jpg)
I have these and no fingers helps but still these muffle the sound.


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Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: wchadw on October 27, 2019, 05:38:43 PM
I may try these?

https://palmfreesunwear.com/


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Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: wchadw on October 28, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
Ended up just cutting palms out of these. Sounds much better. They may fall apart but better than buying something else(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191028/8534d6c0c4ee07ced062a0441008d3e7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191028/cbc78973dcb0c2b98fb86bb11ae64998.jpg)


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Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: davisd9 on October 28, 2019, 03:07:34 PM
Carbomask is a good product you can apply to the back of your hands.  I hunted a lot without gloves last year and did not get busted for not having them.  If you want a glove go to the thin stretching gloves.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: Paladin85 on October 28, 2019, 05:15:21 PM
I use carbon mask too. Have used regular face paint just on tops of fingers and back of hand but the greasy residue sometimes gets on trumpet but can be cleaned off later
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: greentag on November 04, 2019, 08:50:59 AM
When I first started many many years ago,I thought I had to have camo on everything,as time passed and I learned more about what I was doing I started shedding some of it,I never wear gloves anymore unless it's fall and cold,but spring I usually never wear them and do just fine,the main thing is movement,if your not moving your hands and keep them still then by the time they are in range it's already to late...
Title: Re: Trumpet hunting question?
Post by: Scpossum on November 11, 2019, 11:28:16 PM
Carbomask is what I use also.  Good product.