I was wanting to see if I could get some other opinions on this pattern before I go out and buy a set of aftermarket sights. This is the only gun I've checked poa/poi like this so I'm not real sure what you can get away with. This was at 30 feet and to me it looks a little high. Let me know what you think
If you hold on the wattles that's a dead turkey. Wouldn't feel bad about that but I would check it a 40 to be sure.
Get some adjustable sights. The POA/POI deviation will increase w/ distance and you don't want a situation which requires you to "think" a different POA for a myriad of distances and shooting scenarios.
If your posted shot was actually 30 feet ( 10 Yards ) you will shoot over most birds past 25 yards. Not Good!!
Did you shoot just the one pattern, or more to confirm that you're shooting high?
Bob
I shot more than one. They matched within half of an inch so I guess it's time to start looking into sights. Nothing like dropping a couple thousand on something that won't shoot straight lol
What's it look like at 40 ?
I didn't shoot it at 40 yet. We haven't had very good weather to shoot in so I have had to put off the actual patterning. Some of the threads that I have read online say the best way to check poi/poa is to shoot within 10 yards. Would I benefit more from checking poi at 40 yards?
Honestly, I wouldn't sweat it until I shot a couple at 40. If it were just a little high at 10 I could live with that.
Most of the time it's the aftermarket choke tube that makes your gun shoot off . Have you tried the factory tube in it ?
Quote from: soky on February 21, 2016, 10:19:40 PM
I shot more than one. They matched within half of an inch so I guess it's time to start looking into sights. Nothing like dropping a couple thousand on something that won't shoot straight lol
What gun is it? A lot of higher end guns shoot a 70/30 pattern. Basically allowing for birds flying up and away or straight towards you as in driven birds or landing birds. If its shooting within a half inch of every shot, believe me, its shokting straight!! :icon_thumright:
Quote from: vaturkey on February 22, 2016, 07:54:55 AM
Most of the time it's the aftermarket choke tube that makes your gun shoot off . Have you tried the factory tube in it ?
I shot it a couple of times when I first bought it with the factory tubes and they were a touch right but dead on up and down. Unfortunately I didn't take a picture of those.
Before I bought after market sights I would shoot at 40 at a turkey head and neck target and aim at the wattles. To me that's the best aiming point on a bird anyway because they don't move like the neck and head does. I had an 870 one time that I had to put a red dot on because you had to aim right at the birds head. I set it up with the red dot to shoot at the wattles and it was over then. I'd just try and see.
Try different factory chokes and see if you get the same results. Also, consider adjusting the stock to assist with the issue.
At least it is good right and left. If it's not to high at 40 I wouldn't worry much about it. Mine shoots higher than yours and will definitely have to put a bigger bead on the front or rifle sights on it to get it dead on.
And I feel your pain on dropping a grand on a gun that doesn't shoot perfect poa to poi? A 60/40 pattern is as high as any gun that isn't a trap gun should ever shoot. Over constriction can cause your patterns to float around a little too, so if someone has a more open tube you could borrow it would be worth shooting a couple of rounds through. Also try different shells. My 835 shoots a tad low with every shell in the world but 3" #5 supremes and they shoot dead on.
Quote from: Happy on February 20, 2016, 04:35:49 PM
If you hold on the wattles that's a dead turkey. Wouldn't feel bad about that but I would check it a 40 to be sure.
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You said you shot that target at 30 feet. So 10 yards?
Shoot it at 40 and see where your POI is.
Personally to me a turkey gun is a dedicated tool and I won't set one up without some sort of optical sighting system
Shoot it at 40 and see what you get
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Quote from: Sealbilly on April 15, 2016, 09:13:16 PM
At least it is good right and left. If it's not to high at 40 I wouldn't worry much about it. Mine shoots higher than yours and will definitely have to put a bigger bead on the front or rifle sights on it to get it dead on.
And I feel your pain on dropping a grand on a gun that doesn't shoot perfect poa to poi? A 60/40 pattern is as high as any gun that isn't a trap gun should ever shoot. Over constriction can cause your patterns to float around a little too, so if someone has a more open tube you could borrow it would be worth shooting a couple of rounds through. Also try different shells. My 835 shoots a tad low with every shell in the world but 3" #5 supremes and they shoot dead on.
X2 I've changed mine also by either changing turkey chokes or a different brand of shell.
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Quote from: Happy on February 20, 2016, 04:35:49 PM
If you hold on the wattles that's a dead turkey. Wouldn't feel bad about that but I would check it a 40 to be sure.
Shoot it at 40yds,also high and low alot of times if you are taking a full bead or fine bead if taking a fine bead it will make you shoot high try taking different beads and see what you get they also sell taller beads i you need one to bring it down.
we set a gun at 50 ft. about 1 to 2 inches high. When you get to 40 it will be on most of the time.
Are you leveling the vent rib (if the run has one)? It may be as simple as you covering the spot with the bead vs. putting the spot on top of the bead at that distance. I would take a gun shooting a tad high and straight over a gun that is patterning well below the bead, left or right any day of the week. I don't think you have a problem at all.
If you want to lower your poi, and if your gun has shims try lowering your stock. After you see what it does at 40 however :funnyturkey: