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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 20 Gauge Turkey Guns => Topic started by: packmule on May 06, 2023, 02:35:40 PM

Title: Weatherby element
Post by: packmule on May 06, 2023, 02:35:40 PM
Anyone have one they can comment on? They appear to be a solid gun, but online reviews are sparse.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: FL-Boss on May 06, 2023, 03:38:36 PM
great gun ...but my understanding is the turkey version (bottomland 22in) is not drilled and tapped from the factory.. which I don't understand for a turkey-specific gun.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: yelpy on May 06, 2023, 03:46:21 PM
I have one and it patterns great with an IC .562 tss 9's (315 to 333 in the 10)  The factory bead is spot on. The finish seems to be a high quality. Ill see how it holds up. The rubber or whatever it is they used for the grip is fantastic. Cycles fine. The only thing that I dont like about the gun is the weight. Its a 6lb gun.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: RED NECK on May 06, 2023, 03:48:13 PM
I took mine out for its first hunt this morning, I really like it, It's one of my favorite 20's. I patterned it with Fed heavyweight 6's and stock choke and it shot extremely well, I then decided to actually use a red dot so I took gun last night up to my camp and patterned it, sighted it in with the same shells and tss 7's with a trulock .560 and won't be changing anything, I bought 10 boxes of the Fed hwy 6's and have 9 boxes and 2 shells left, so I'll be using them and tss 7's for the next few years. I didn't take any pictures of patterns. I had it d&t for a sumtoy red dot mount. I had 11 jakes walk by me at 9 yards, yesterday the tom was behind them but a little out of range, he was not behind them today, his lucky day.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: runngun on May 06, 2023, 11:13:28 PM
Good deal HBK, glad to see it's going well with you!!!! Kill a big one!!!

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Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: yelpy on May 07, 2023, 08:59:26 PM
Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on May 06, 2023, 03:48:13 PM
I took mine out for its first hunt this morning, I really like it, It's one of my favorite 20's. I patterned it with Fed heavyweight 6's and stock choke and it shot extremely well, I then decided to actually use a red dot so I took gun last night up to my camp and patterned it, sighted it in with the same shells and tss 7's with a trulock .560 and won't be changing anything, I bought 10 boxes of the Fed hwy 6's and have 9 boxes and 2 shells left, so I'll be using them and tss 7's for the next few years. I didn't take any pictures of patterns. I had it d&t for a sumtoy red dot mount. I had 11 jakes walk by me at 9 yards, yesterday the tom was behind them but a little out of range, he was not behind them today, his lucky day.

Good to know on the trulock. I planned on picking one up just havent yet. I have a few pounds of tss 7's and 8's left to use up. They are nice guns for the money for sure. Good luck to you!!
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: packmule on May 09, 2023, 01:34:46 PM
Thank you all, great feedback.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: Ridge Rooster on May 28, 2023, 02:58:25 PM
How is the trigger on these guns and are there any spring kits to lighten them available?

Ridge Rooster
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: bigdrumnc on June 05, 2023, 10:02:57 PM
What mount did you use on the element?
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: RED NECK on June 06, 2023, 04:08:17 AM
Quote from: bigdrumnc on June 05, 2023, 10:02:57 PM
What mount did you use on the element?
I used a sumtoy mount on this gun.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: bigdrumnc on June 06, 2023, 02:43:55 PM
Benelli Mobil chokes?
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: RED NECK on June 06, 2023, 04:37:53 PM
Quote from: bigdrumnc on June 06, 2023, 02:43:55 PM
Benelli Mobil chokes?
No, they are invector-win threads.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: mountainhunter1 on June 10, 2023, 10:57:14 AM
Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on May 06, 2023, 03:48:13 PM
I took mine out for its first hunt this morning, I really like it, It's one of my favorite 20's. I patterned it with Fed heavyweight 6's and stock choke and it shot extremely well, I then decided to actually use a red dot so I took gun last night up to my camp and patterned it, sighted it in with the same shells and tss 7's with a trulock .560 and won't be changing anything, I bought 10 boxes of the Fed hwy 6's and have 9 boxes and 2 shells left, so I'll be using them and tss 7's for the next few years. I didn't take any pictures of patterns. I had it d&t for a sumtoy red dot mount. I had 11 jakes walk by me at 9 yards, yesterday the tom was behind them but a little out of range, he was not behind them today, his lucky day.


VERY NICE. For the money, it may be the best auto 20 on the market today. I have worked with multiple guys out of town who swear by them. I have a couple of buddies from home who have them and absolutely love them as well. They leave their Benelli's at home most times and carry the Element. I'm probably going to pick one up at some point myself. But that not being D/T bugs me. That is a five to ten dollar expense as it comes down the assembly line that they ought to just tack onto the final price and get it done from the factory.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: mountainhunter1 on June 10, 2023, 11:03:39 AM
Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on May 06, 2023, 03:48:13 PM
I took mine out for its first hunt this morning, I really like it, It's one of my favorite 20's. I patterned it with Fed heavyweight 6's and stock choke and it shot extremely well, I then decided to actually use a red dot so I took gun last night up to my camp and patterned it, sighted it in with the same shells and tss 7's with a trulock .560 and won't be changing anything, I bought 10 boxes of the Fed hwy 6's and have 9 boxes and 2 shells left, so I'll be using them and tss 7's for the next few years. I didn't take any pictures of patterns. I had it d&t for a sumtoy red dot mount. I had 11 jakes walk by me at 9 yards, yesterday the tom was behind them but a little out of range, he was not behind them today, his lucky day.

The gun is listed at 43.75" - Can you do me a big favor please and tell me if that gun is 43.25" to the end of the barrel or to the end of the included factory extended turkey choke that comes with the gun? Thanks
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: packmule on June 10, 2023, 05:23:58 PM
Quote from: mountainhunter1 on June 10, 2023, 11:03:39 AM
Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on May 06, 2023, 03:48:13 PM
I took mine out for its first hunt this morning, I really like it, It's one of my favorite 20's. I patterned it with Fed heavyweight 6's and stock choke and it shot extremely well, I then decided to actually use a red dot so I took gun last night up to my camp and patterned it, sighted it in with the same shells and tss 7's with a trulock .560 and won't be changing anything, I bought 10 boxes of the Fed hwy 6's and have 9 boxes and 2 shells left, so I'll be using them and tss 7's for the next few years. I didn't take any pictures of patterns. I had it d&t for a sumtoy red dot mount. I had 11 jakes walk by me at 9 yards, yesterday the tom was behind them but a little out of range, he was not behind them today, his lucky day.

The gun is listed at 43.75" - Can you do me a big favor please and tell me if that gun is 43.25" to the end of the barrel or to the end of the included factory extended turkey choke that comes with the gun? Thanks

44.75" to the end of extended factory choke.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: mountainhunter1 on June 10, 2023, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: packmule on June 10, 2023, 05:23:58 PM
Quote from: mountainhunter1 on June 10, 2023, 11:03:39 AM
Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on May 06, 2023, 03:48:13 PM
I took mine out for its first hunt this morning, I really like it, It's one of my favorite 20's. I patterned it with Fed heavyweight 6's and stock choke and it shot extremely well, I then decided to actually use a red dot so I took gun last night up to my camp and patterned it, sighted it in with the same shells and tss 7's with a trulock .560 and won't be changing anything, I bought 10 boxes of the Fed hwy 6's and have 9 boxes and 2 shells left, so I'll be using them and tss 7's for the next few years. I didn't take any pictures of patterns. I had it d&t for a sumtoy red dot mount. I had 11 jakes walk by me at 9 yards, yesterday the tom was behind them but a little out of range, he was not behind them today, his lucky day.

The gun is listed at 43.75" - Can you do me a big favor please and tell me if that gun is 43.25" to the end of the barrel or to the end of the included factory extended turkey choke that comes with the gun? Thanks

44.75" to the end of extended factory choke.

Thanks
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: bigdrumnc on June 13, 2023, 10:35:25 AM
Headed my way from buds.  I plan on shooting apex #9s.  What Trulock choke is recommended or sumtoy for that matter? I see trulock had a federal tss choke and a pinhoti.  I am not looking for absolute maximum distance.  Thank you.  I can't wait for next season.  I plan to use a meadow creek mount for the optic.  I am pretty pleased how it works on my benelli.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: Bamaslayer757 on June 13, 2023, 01:47:43 PM
I got a .575 trulock non ported. I haven't shot it yet but have a .585 on my franchi and love the pattern...just wanted to try the .575 for an even pattern out to 50. I don't like them super tight
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: runngun on June 13, 2023, 02:35:23 PM
I would have to try a Sumtoy .562 or .575. With the 562 being the tightest I would go/suggest.

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Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: RED NECK on June 13, 2023, 03:31:30 PM
I have the .560 pinhoti with the trak on it in the gun, It shot very well with stock choke as well, I didn't buy the choke for this gun, I had it, I actually bought it to use in a few others but never tried it because I didn't need too. I am 110% happy with it. I don't think you can go wrong with a sumtoy or trulock.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: Tailwalk on December 17, 2023, 11:08:38 PM
Looks like weatherby did some good market research and slid their price right in the sweet spot. If this gun is as good as all of the reviews I see than better get one before they bump the price up like franchi did with the affinity 3.


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Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: Turkeyfever on December 31, 2023, 11:00:47 PM
 I got one and used it last spring, My son hunts with it also. Great shooter and I didn't worry with drilling and tapping. I purchased a meadow creek mount and really like it! The Weatherby Element is a great turkey gun.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: Tommy Strutsalot on January 24, 2024, 04:29:50 PM
Quote from: Tailwalk on December 17, 2023, 11:08:38 PM
Looks like weatherby did some good market research and slid their price right in the sweet spot. If this gun is as good as all of the reviews I see than better get one before they bump the price up like franchi did with the affinity 3.

Exactly why I bought the Element 20 - I love Franchi and have an Affinity 3 in 12 GA and it's a straight up shooter - it's definitely worth even the increased price point - but while shopping around on GunBroker I saw this Element and reflexively purchased.  Completely involuntary action but I'm not complaining.

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Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: OJR on February 15, 2024, 01:58:37 PM
I purchased a 20ga Element this past August and was able to do something with it I have seldom done. With the first box of shells (#7.5 Winchester 7/8oz) I harvested 15 Dove with 22 shells. The first time I pulled it out of the box. Needless to say, I am a happy camper. I have since duck hunted with similar results and am looking forward to patterning some turkey loads with it for this spring. It's a solid buy. Good gun and well made.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: MattinIdaho on February 19, 2024, 04:44:58 PM
Quote from: RED NECK on June 13, 2023, 03:31:30 PM
I have the .560 pinhoti with the trak on it in the gun, It shot very well with stock choke as well, I didn't buy the choke for this gun, I had it, I actually bought it to use in a few others but never tried it because I didn't need too. I am 110% happy with it. I don't think you can go wrong with a sumtoy or trulock.

What shells did you run through the stock choke. I was a little disappointed to see that's it's not rated for tss.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: valleyoaks on February 25, 2024, 11:03:51 AM
Very fine gun for $429  has 4 chokes,cast and drop shims and lop shim  have the 22 inch 20 gauge turkey model and factory trigger pull is 4 3/4 pounds so dont let wakeman tell ya otherwise   Gonna pattern with factory ext turkey choke with winchester and remington 3 inch lead 5 turkey loads and some winchester pheasant 3 inch 5 shot and apex 3 inch 9 shot tss
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: Trkmaster88 on February 25, 2024, 09:31:09 PM
Quote from: valleyoaks on February 25, 2024, 11:03:51 AM
Very fine gun for $429  has 4 chokes,cast and drop shims and lop shim  have the 22 inch 20 gauge turkey model and factory trigger pull is 4 3/4 pounds so dont let wakeman tell ya otherwise   Gonna pattern with factory ext turkey choke with winchester and remington 3 inch lead 5 turkey loads and some winchester pheasant 3 inch 5 shot and apex 3 inch 9 shot tss

LOP shim? What are the length options?
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: RED NECK on February 27, 2024, 02:03:40 PM
Quote from: MattinIdaho on February 19, 2024, 04:44:58 PM
Quote from: RED NECK on June 13, 2023, 03:31:30 PM
I have the .560 pinhoti with the trak on it in the gun, It shot very well with stock choke as well, I didn't buy the choke for this gun, I had it, I actually bought it to use in a few others but never tried it because I didn't need too. I am 110% happy with it. I don't think you can go wrong with a sumtoy or trulock.

What shells did you run through the stock choke. I was a little disappointed to see that's it's not rated for tss.
Its posted earlier in thread, heavyweight #6's and tss 7's from Federal.I never had a single issue with tss through the weatherby stock chokes on any of mine.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: Manager8 on March 10, 2024, 07:31:07 PM
This one's definitely on my radar thanks for the feedback looks like it already comes drilled and tapped
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: RED NECK on March 10, 2024, 07:38:34 PM
It is not drilled and tapped from the factory, I had mine done by a buddy who is a gunsmith.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: RoyalKnight on March 27, 2024, 03:14:40 PM
Why did Weatherby discontinue this gun? I guess they didnt sell well. havent turkey hunted in a few years but I am fired up this year about it.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: bigdrumnc on March 30, 2024, 07:29:53 AM
I am not sure they discontinued it?  It's a great gun!
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: RoyalKnight on April 01, 2024, 09:06:46 PM
Website says it's discontinued. I like mine!!
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: bigdrumnc on April 01, 2024, 09:41:17 PM
Ya lol if that's the case I am glad I got mine when I did.
Title: Re: Weatherby element
Post by: TScottW99 on April 07, 2024, 08:18:53 PM
I bought one last year in 20 gauge. I ordered one in 12 gauge last week from Buds, should be here this week. Glad I ordered that one when I did.