Dropped by the new Bass pro sportsman in town yesterday. They had federal hevi-weight 7's in stock picked up a box for the BPS 10 ga. Was wondering what results any one had achieved with there choke and gun setup. I know there is a stigma with the new flitecontrol wads.
Best 10 gauge shell made outside of nitro
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,37274.0.html
Awesome pattern thanks for the link and info. I'm gonna test them this weekend with a stock x-full choke and a borrowed .710 pure gold.
If you're shooting a big ten why the need for pixie dust sized shot ?
Why not shoot a manly sized shot to go with the manly sized gun.
"Pixie" dust kills too lol
Quote from: L.F. Cox on March 07, 2014, 08:14:31 AM
If you're shooting a big ten why the need for pixie dust sized shot ?
Why not shoot a manly sized shot to go with the manly sized gun.
Because those #7 will out penetrate and out pattern any #4 shell you can find and I guarantee that.
I shoot 2.5 oz of TSS #8 out of mine
Agreed with the density of heavy weight shot and amount of shot in a ten gauge shell. I haven't heard of TSS what does it stand for?
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Quote from: Rockhound on March 07, 2014, 12:17:59 PM
Quote from: L.F. Cox on March 07, 2014, 08:14:31 AM
If you're shooting a big ten why the need for pixie dust sized shot ?
Why not shoot a manly sized shot to go with the manly sized gun.
Because those #7 will out penetrate and out pattern any #4 shell you can find and I guarantee that.
I shoot 2.5 oz of TSS #8 out of mine
Don't kid yourself
I'am from the show me state. That would be one keck of a test! One pellet from each and everything else being equal. Wish I had the equipment to do this! Ole big number 4 verses little bittie number 7. cluck
I've did the test on live turkeys back when I shot Nitros 4x5x7's Hevi Shot....I made a bad 40 to 45 yard walking shot on a gobbler...he went down then got to his feet and flew off.
Called him in and killed him the next morning...shot him about 15 yards with another load of 4x5x7 pixie dust....like to have tore his head off.
When I cleaned him I noticed his legs felt funny....I skinned them back and there were literally 100's of small shot between the meat and skin. (I look back now and wish I had taken pictures).
Enough proof for me.....had I been shooting #4 shot or even #5 shot there's no doubt it would have broken his legs immobilizing him.
The reason that bird got away had nothing to do with the shell it was the guy behind the gun. More than likely the nitro pellets only penetrated the skin was because they bounced of the ground before they hit the legs and lead wouldnt have even broke the skin. HW has 30% more density than the Hevi shot in the nitros and is 40 denser than lead. HW and lead aint even in the same ballpark hell they aint even playing the same sport. What your calling pixie dust would have made his legs as limp as a nobble at 40 yds. the #7 HW with out preform #4 lead in pattern density, penetration, and lethal killing range anyday of the week. I hate to tell you this but your miss informed and need to rethink you logic on this one.
Quote from: L.F. Cox on March 07, 2014, 06:45:48 PM
I've did the test on live turkeys back when I shot Nitros 4x5x7's Hevi Shot....I made a bad 40 to 45 yard walking shot on a gobbler...he went down then got to his feet and flew off.
Called him in and killed him the next morning...shot him about 15 yards with another load of 4x5x7 pixie dust....like to have tore his head off.
When I cleaned him I noticed his legs felt funny....I skinned them back and there were literally 100's of small shot between the meat and skin. (I look back now and wish I had taken pictures).
Enough proof for me.....had I been shooting #4 shot or even #5 shot there's no doubt it would have broken his legs immobilizing him.
I ain't talking about no stinking heavy shot, I'm talking about the heavyweight shot. It blows the hevishot out of the water. I'm not kidding myself, I'm a hand loader and I know a thing or two about the heavier than lead shot. I know for a fact that lead #4 will NOT go through 1/2" plywood at 1300 fps. I know for a fact that federal heavyweight #7 WILL.
That's awful funny, I shot a bird low last year at 41 yards with a load of tss #8, majority of the shot was a little below his waddles but those #8 broke both legs, and both wings with pellets that entered one side of his breast and completely passed through and exited the other side.
Sounds like you shot your bird in the legs??
It's becoming apparent that all men that shoot fairy dust and pixie dust have "little shot syndrome".....
Is it akin to little man syndrome ?.
You can shoot what what you want, but dont come on here and tell people they don't know what they they are talking about.
Quote from: L.F. Cox on March 08, 2014, 04:14:28 AM
It's becoming apparent that all men that shoot fairy dust and pixie dust have "little shot syndrome".....
Is it akin to little man syndrome ?.
it has also become apparent that some people on here have a distort perception of reality when it comes to its abilities of lead shot.
In my field we call this psychosis.
I still can't figure outwhy you would shoot a turkey in the legs?
Shot a gobbler last year with fed #7 hw last year at about 40 yards , aimed a bit low , dropped my hold right as I pulled the trigger .... When I picked him up ........broke the base of the neck of course , but a stray #7 hit his upper femur ( leg bone ) broke it , more like shattered it - it hits like 4-5 hevi shot - ridiculous knockdown
The # 7 hw is a small projectile but....it's 50% heavier than lead , 30% more heavy than a hevi shot 7 , when I shot it at a 5/8 thick hardwood ply , it blew right through , same as the #5 hevi shot on the same pattern session --
Best thing about the fed hw , its relatively available everywhere to buy ,always seems to be in plentiful supply , shoots well , consistent
In my opinion the hevishot #7 h13 at 1080 fps , doesn't have a substantial " fudge factor" like a tight shooting shell in a larger size shot - like elbows everyone has one , that's my opinion though....
What choke would you recommend with the Fed HW #7's ? I know the ported chokes are not recommended with the flitecontrol wad. I have a IC .690 and a Rhino .720. I also have a hastings nonported .675.
The FliteControl wads don't perform well out of Indian Creek chokes due to the internal wad retention rings. The Pure Gold tubes are also described as "wad stripping". I shot both a .680 and .690 Pure Gold, and a Rhino tube w/ the Heavyweight #7's , and none of them compared to the patterns I get w/ a Gobblin Thunder .690. Based on the cost of the Federal Heavyweight shells, it was a "no brainer" to follow the advice of the 10 gauge geru's on here and buy a GT .690.
Quote from: Rockhound on March 08, 2014, 01:57:47 PM
I still can't figure outwhy you would shoot a turkey in the legs?
I shoot left handed the gobbler was going right to left...I can shoot either shoulder equally well but there was no way i could swap shoulders so I twisted as far as I could and when I shot I just made a bad hit.
Yeah , I thought a .690 might be about right but a GT is a ported choke also right ? They say not to use a wad stripping choke . Why doesnt Federal load up a 2.50 0z load of these 7's with a regular wad. Or maybe a 2.25 oz load. I think it would pattern really good out of the .690 IC . Also Ive flatened gobblers past 55yds with the Nitro H210 4x5x7 and the Rhino .720.
Quote from: SLAYER on March 11, 2014, 07:37:21 PM
Yeah , I thought a .690 might be about right but a GT is a ported choke also right ? They say not to use a wad stripping choke . Why doesnt Federal load up a 2.50 0z load of these 7's with a regular wad. Or maybe a 2.25 oz load. I think it would pattern really good out of the .690 IC . Also Ive flatened gobblers past 55yds with the Nitro H210 4x5x7 and the Rhino .720.
The gt is a wad stripping choke but it and the fcw are a match made in heaven. Check out the 10 gauge pattern section for a few pics
I think federal has to use that thick wad for liability purposes , the shot material is harder than the barrel
Anybody shoot the hevi-weight 7"s out of a Bansner choke It's ported but I don't see any rings?
Works for me ! BPS 685GT #7s , still shoot Winchester 6s as well but wont argue that they will drop em dead, I have killed 6 since shooting them and my daughter has killed 3 with her 20 good shells and since I cant get the old Winchester XXs in 6s I made the switch no regrets.
Would you happen to have a pattern photo of the the .685 GT with the HW # 7's ?
Thanks
Not the best and I'm not much of a pellet counter but do pattern shells before using them to hunt with, this was one of the first I shot with the 685GT 30yards a tad to the right but again like I said they work well and I am satisfied by them.
Quote from: steveo on March 25, 2014, 12:44:56 PM
Not the best and I'm not much of a pellet counter but do pattern shells before using them to hunt with, this was one of the first I shot with the 685GT 30yards a tad to the right but again like I said they work well and I am satisfied by them.
Nice thanks for the picture
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