for you guys that have shot these how is the kick compared to the other win shells? i have a recoils sensitive shooter in the house who i made the mistake of letting them shoot the win 1300 fps high velocity and now refuses to shoot a 12 anymore. :fud:
Can't report on the 3" shells. But shooting the 3.5" shells in my guns (Moss 935/Rem 870)
recoil has been average in comparison with similar loadings. It was more than noticeable but not overwhelming.
If they are recoil sensitive, they won't like the Longbeards. Best bet is to move them down to a 20ga.
The longbeards have a little more
pop to them verses other lead loads
There's no crying in baseball!! :TooFunny: And how could they have "more pop" than other Winchester loads that are the same wt or heavier and going faster?
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on February 11, 2014, 07:40:21 PM
There's no crying in baseball!! :TooFunny: And how could they have "more pop" than other Winchester loads that are the same wt or heavier and going faster?
Different powder blend. Shoot a 3.5 Mag blend and then shoot a 3.5 Win XX, quite a difference in felt recoil.
Quote from: Philippe on February 11, 2014, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on February 11, 2014, 07:40:21 PM
There's no crying in baseball!! :TooFunny: And how could they have "more pop" than other Winchester loads that are the same wt or heavier and going faster?
Different powder blend. Shoot a 3.5 Mag blend and then shoot a 3.5 Win XX of equal pay load, quite a difference in felt recoil.
You could look into porting your barrel or buy a choke to reduce felt recoil, this goes for shooting a 20 ga. as well. Try to let them know you are helping, pain equals lost interest for young hunters, keep it fun.
I'd say they compare pretty evenly with the black HV Win. shells in either 3 or 3.5". They're pretty stout.
Quote from: Philippe on February 11, 2014, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on February 11, 2014, 07:40:21 PM
There's no crying in baseball!! :TooFunny: And how could they have "more pop" than other Winchester loads that are the same wt or heavier and going faster?
Different powder blend. Shoot a 3.5 Mag blend and then shoot a 3.5 Win XX, quite a difference in felt recoil.
Not to me. Maybe to you... Recoil between ANY load of the same weight and same starting velocity in the same gun MIGHT very by a foot pound...MAYBE two. You won't notice that when your teeth re already rattling around in your mouth from shooting those roman canldles anyways so...
Quote from: Greenshed Longbeard on February 20, 2014, 06:46:59 PM
You could look into porting your barrel or buy a choke to reduce felt recoil, this goes for shooting a 20 ga. as well. Try to let them know you are helping, pain equals lost interest for young hunters, keep it fun.
oh no shes not young she is 35 :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
I tried the LB in 3"#6 and then shot a Win XX 3-2-5 and felt that the 3-2-5 was a little stouter in a Win 101 O/U but not by much.
If that shell is shot in a semi-auto it should be no problem.
Son 16 years at 135 lbs, shot off the bench yesterday said they were the least kickers of the bunch ,
just shot LB's, thugs , and FED HWT in 3". in a 870 Sm 26". He still likes his 20 870 better and so do I ! :)
The first time I shot the hevi shot white hulls I thought it was a dud, until I saw the pattern, There is a reduced recoil hevi round out that I bet is similar to those. the velocity on that white hull was only 1090 if I remember correctly was very light in recoil compared to other turkey loads I had. Down to my last 2!
Quote from: knightrider on February 22, 2014, 07:32:09 AM
Quote from: Greenshed Longbeard on February 20, 2014, 06:46:59 PM
You could look into porting your barrel or buy a choke to reduce felt recoil, this goes for shooting a 20 ga. as well. Try to let them know you are helping, pain equals lost interest for young hunters, keep it fun.
oh no shes not young she is 35 :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
35 IS young to some of us lol!! :TooFunny:
Typical turkey load. Not what you'd shoot skeet with.
Quote from: Gooserbat on March 14, 2014, 06:14:29 PM
Typical turkey load. Not what you'd shoot skeet with.
Unless the skeet was 66 yds away! :angel9:
I know you may not notice the recoil that much when shooting a turkey but when pattering I did notice the kick. And a non ported choke kicked more that a ported.
they kick as hard as the old 2oz loads
All 3'' turkey loads feel the same to me they all kick
I shot the Federal Stut Shok & Winchester Longbeards both 3 1/2 2oz loads the Longbeards were a lot better. The Federals I couldn't handle.
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I shoot SX3 NWTF, I patterned Winchester supreme HV #5 and Winchester Longbeard #5 in 3" and 3 1/2" shells. Don't let anyone tell you that neither one will not kick out of a SX3. They will jar your teeth. That said you probably will not feel it if you shoot a turkey.
They all kick the fire out of me!!!
The 3" #6 turkey thugs made my little 10 yr old man cry. And he plays OLB on his football team and he's no slouched in the tough guy dept. Took some convincing to get him to try the Longbeards in the same offering. He stood up, rubbed his shoulder a little and said, "Not too bad, Dad." Rub, rub.... The pattern was amazing. He has his confidence back now and ready to smoke one. I also thought they kicked a little less.
I done some patterning a couple nights ago. Mostly Longbeards and after 9 rounds in half an hour I was done.
I honestly thought they were a little lighter than Win HVs.
I'm shooting 3" 4's in my remington 1100 magnum & they don't kick enough to even talk about...and i'm not a big guy, 5'10, 165, i hate to get kicked....
Concussion, but all turkey loads are bad to me.
Limbsaver recoil pad, nuff said!