What are your thoughts on flush mount vs extended tubes. Keeping all things the same with constriction sizes. Are their any performance differences or is it just an aesthetics preference?
Thanks
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Wow 35 looks and no insight...
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So I have a little insight.
With TSS, I haven't noticed a dramatic difference in flush versus extended unless you want a super hot core.
With lead and Hevi, the longer extended chokes pattern much better for me. This is across numerous 12's and 20's. The one exception being a double barrel CZ 20 and Carlson's flush tubes patterned so well with all 3 shot types I never looked for extended tubes.
Keeping constriction size the same? I don't know, I've never shot a flush mount choke with the same constriction as any extended turkey choke. I think there is probably a performance difference because aren't most extended chokes designed with a more gradual constriction and other features to slow the wad down more? I don't think it is just aesthetics.
Thanks guys this is what I was looking for.
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As far as performance I don't have any idea. The gun smith that drilled and tapped my wife's Mossberg SA-20 told me that if she is going to be shooting a choke with a really tight constriction it would be better to use an extended tube. The tightest part of the choke would be on the outside of the barrel....less chance of barrel damage that way.
Quote from: captpete on March 02, 2019, 12:40:27 PM
As far as performance I don't have any idea. The gun smith that drilled and tapped my wife's Mossberg SA-20 told me that if she is going to be shooting a choke with a really tight constriction it would be better to use an extended tube. The tightest part of the choke would be on the outside of the barrel....less chance of barrel damage that way.
Thank you. I was curious about that too. Makes great sense too.
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An extra full or super full turkey choke needs a little more length to get the shot squeezed down and lined out.
Let me also clarify I will be using LB number 6s as well
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Quote from: scoffman1 on March 10, 2019, 08:38:51 PM
Let me also clarify I will be using LB number 6s as well
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12 or 20?
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Quote from: DBell on March 10, 2019, 08:48:34 PM
Quote from: scoffman1 on March 10, 2019, 08:38:51 PM
Let me also clarify I will be using LB number 6s as well
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12 or 20?
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20
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I've been shooting a lotta turkey guns for a lotta years and have for the most part found extended chokes to throw much tighter patterns. I somewhat equate it to the old Fox Super 12 gauge sxs that were made in the 1920's and 30's. Those guns had chokes that were 4 to 5" long slowly constrict the shot as it exited the barrel. I think the Longer choke tubes have the same affect.
Quote from: ahfox16 on March 11, 2019, 09:33:43 AM
I've been shooting a lotta turkey guns for a lotta years and have for the most part found extended chokes to throw much tighter patterns. I somewhat equate it to the old Fox Super 12 gauge sxs that were made in the 1920's and 30's. Those guns had chokes that were 4 to 5" long slowly constrict the shot as it exited the barrel. I think the Longer choke tubes have the same affect.
Thank you sir! Makes great sense
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scoffman1,
Thanks for posting the question.
Here is a good article re: extended choke tubes & their uses /advantages.
https://www.chuckhawks.com/extended_chokes_patterns.htm
Quote from: tree-rat sniper on March 11, 2019, 11:46:28 PM
Here is a good article re: extended choke tubes & their uses /advantages.
https://www.chuckhawks.com/extended_chokes_patterns.htm
Great article, I am using a NEF that I had cut to 20 in and threaded for Win Chokes. I wanted to use it for run and gun and I back up or a spare for someone. I have some flush fit Carlson 585 choke and going to acquire a 575 as well merely because they are a 1/3 of the price of extended. I am going to use the same LB number 6s as I use in my 870, or may splurge on some cheaper ammo for this one. I would love to have a 40 yd gun here but I feel I may have a good 30 to 35 yd gun.
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Quote from: scoffman1 on March 17, 2019, 03:33:30 PM
Quote from: tree-rat sniper on March 11, 2019, 11:46:28 PM
Here is a good article re: extended choke tubes & their uses /advantages.
https://www.chuckhawks.com/extended_chokes_patterns.htm
Great article, I am using a NEF that I had cut to 20 in and threaded for Win Chokes. I wanted to use it for run and gun and I back up or a spare for someone. I have some flush fit Carlson 585 choke and going to acquire a 575 as well merely because they are a 1/3 of the price of extended. I am going to use the same LB number 6s as I use in my 870, or may splurge on some cheaper ammo for this one. I would love to have a 40 yd gun here but I feel I may have a good 30 to 35 yd gun.
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I don't see why you can't get a good 40 yard killing pattern with the LB#6 and your new setup. I'm averaging 110-130/10" circle at 40 yards with the 870 21" bbl 20 gauge. This is with a .565 trulock.
If you want to try a cheaper round, seriously consider the federal grand slams #5. They are $11 for a box of 10 and I get nice 35 yard patterns (80-100 in 10") with the same setup mentioned above. I stocked up on them that's how well they shoot. I'm ok with a 35 yard gun. I was in a similar situation as you. I bought a second 870 20 ga to get my dad out in the woods/backup gun and I ended up setting it up to shoot the feds and its much more forgiving then the LB but will thump out to 35 without a problem. Honestly it will most likely drop any bird at 37-38 yards based on the testing I've done. I like them enough that I will be using this setup for myself when I hunt solo.
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I have never tried a flush choke, all I ever shot was extended chokes.
Well from what I read that not a bunch of difference in performance. Granted the extra 2 inches the extended choke gains does improve somewhat.
Mainly appealing to the eye and a protection to end of barrel for damage prevention not due to shooting
When I can get a Carlson turkey 575 for flush mount at 17 bucks or it's same in extended for 30 to 40 bucks. Why not take the chance.
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Quote from: BrowningGuy88 on March 01, 2019, 07:46:41 AM
So I have a little insight.
With TSS, I haven't noticed a dramatic difference in flush versus extended unless you want a super hot core.
With lead and Hevi, the longer extended chokes pattern much better for me. This is across numerous 12's and 20's. The one exception being a double barrel CZ 20 and Carlson's flush tubes patterned so well with all 3 shot types I never looked for extended tubes.
Do you feel the extended chokes patterning better was due to about 2 inches more tube for the shot to ride? Why I am also thinking the flush mount vs extended was due to the LB rounds. They have a resin on them and according to Carlson and Winchester is like a flying golf ball up to 17 yds
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