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Title: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: gergg on April 01, 2021, 05:44:10 PM
I got a hankering to build a Long Box today, first one for me, had no idea what I was doing so have mercy on me. Then to add insult to injury, I decided to make a sound file to see what I created....here it is, still tuning the thing, sounds like maybe a tad too low right now, whatcha think?

Black Limba/Mac Ebony Lid.....Just learning how to play this thing, both sides, every way possible.

https://soundcloud.com/user-693889955/long-box-limba-mac-ebony-4121 (https://soundcloud.com/user-693889955/long-box-limba-mac-ebony-4121)
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: yelpy on April 01, 2021, 06:04:34 PM
Keep at it. They sure are tough to get tuned perfect. I've been tinkering with a few myself. It sure can be addicting.
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: gergg on April 01, 2021, 06:17:24 PM
Quote from: yelpy on April 01, 2021, 06:04:34 PM
Keep at it. They sure are tough to get tuned perfect. I've been tinkering with a few myself. It sure can be addicting.
It is fun, ran out of time and patience on this one for today, just recorded "as is" ...lol
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: Yoder409 on April 02, 2021, 08:19:42 AM
As most guys tune their paddle callers, yours is a whisker on the low side.  Yep.

That being said.............. First effort ??  Outstanding !!!    :icon_thumright:

I'd take that call to the woods and kill gobblers with it.  That's not even a question.   
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: bobk on April 02, 2021, 10:39:41 AM
It is a touch low, however it would definitely hunt.

Great job for your first paddle caller.
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: gergg on April 02, 2021, 02:19:27 PM
Appreciate the feedback guys.....I could not stand it "as is", hopefully I don't ruin it. I was back out in the shop this morning messing/re-tuning it, will post another sound file after I carve it up some more....lol
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: Yoder409 on April 02, 2021, 03:05:42 PM
I guess you'll either end up with a more finely tuned caller or firewood and experience.   :toothy12:

Either way..................   :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: gergg on April 02, 2021, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on April 02, 2021, 03:05:42 PM
I guess you'll either end up with a more finely tuned caller or firewood and experience.   :toothy12:

Either way..................   :icon_thumright:
No doubt, created lots of firewood over the years :)
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: Chris O on April 16, 2021, 08:13:04 AM
It's a little different but I kind of like it. Not bad at all
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: paboxcall on April 16, 2021, 09:00:44 AM
Quote from: Yoder409 on April 02, 2021, 08:19:42 AM
As most guys tune their paddle callers, yours is a whisker on the low side.  Yep.

That being said.............. First effort ??  Outstanding !!!    :icon_thumright:

I'd take that call to the woods and kill gobblers with it.  That's not even a question.

Agree with the others, it is low. Everyone is using heavy woods for paddles these days. But with that box, perhaps a lighter paddle may wake it up.
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: gergg on April 16, 2021, 09:02:28 AM
Quote from: Chris O on April 16, 2021, 08:13:04 AM
It's a little different but I kind of like it. Not bad at all
As is typical with me, I already started experimenting with the re-tune.....will get back to boxes at a later date....lol
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: crow on April 23, 2021, 07:29:42 AM
In the beginning I hear some good Jake yelping, to me your tone and cadence sounds Jake, several of the early yelps had a good yawk in them

later when your speeding up your cadence it's a little low tone for the average hen, but I still hear an old hen in there at different places, a couple times a little bit of a "hen box" sound for old hen.

most of the Kee's sounded a little low to me even for a Jake, but I've had otherwise good L boxes that had no kee in them.

I heard some good realistic clucks but also some clucks that sounded like wood on wood, this could be where you were on the rail for finding the sweet spot or maybe just your technique when first learning

If I was you I would of posted a big pile of wood chips on the floor, told us have plenty of boxes that sound hen and have been hard at it working on a Jake/gobbler box.

If you haven't watched it yet the video of Ralph Snodgrass "Snozz" showing how to run a paddle call is well worth watching. It's on the forum somewhere

I would hunt that call in the spring to challenge a gobbler or fall to call in a Jake/gobbler

Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: Tarheel on August 08, 2021, 09:28:02 PM
When Neil Cost first started making his boatpaddle long boxes, he often complained in his conversations with me about the troubles he had tuning them. He often said he would have a long box tuned one day, then the next day it would sound awful. Then he would work on tuning it some more, then set it aside. With some callers, this could go on for weeks...or months.  Finally, Neil told me the secret for tuning a long box was knowing when to stop messing with it.  Later, when I asked Neil a question about it, he told me that getting a long box finally tuned to his satisfaction was one of the most difficult frustrations for him building a long box.
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: Greg Massey on August 12, 2021, 05:31:39 PM
I do agree with the others it's little on the low side , but that low side is pretty dang good. It will kill just like it is .. can't wait to hear the finished call..
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 12, 2021, 09:41:46 PM
As others have said a tad low but man that thing clearly has a ton of potential, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: Beards and Hooks on August 15, 2021, 07:58:26 PM
Sounds pretty darn good to me, wish I was that handy.

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Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: Hoot 000 on August 27, 2021, 11:13:46 PM
That box will call a long beard in.  :character0029:
Title: Re: 1st Long Box Built - Sound File
Post by: culpeper on September 01, 2021, 03:46:54 PM
Quote from: Tarheel on August 08, 2021, 09:28:02 PM
When Neil Cost first started making his boatpaddle long boxes, he often complained in his conversations with me about the troubles he had tuning them. He often said he would have a long box tuned one day, then the next day it would sound awful. Then he would work on tuning it some more, then set it aside. With some callers, this could go on for weeks...or months.  Finally, Neil told me the secret for tuning a long box was knowing when to stop messing with it.  Later, when I asked Neil a question about it, he told me that getting a long box finally tuned to his satisfaction was one of the most difficult frustrations for him building a long box.

I couldn't agree with this more!  Folks would be floored by how many LB's I toss in the fireplace...it's easily 4 out of the next 10 I build.  I experience the very same frustrations with tuning ad frankly those that seem to work best are those who run well early on with less tuning.  There is a clear issue with the friction of the lid to the body...what I mean is I can run 20 lids while tuning where 10 totally sound awful, 5 sound "okay" 3 sound decent and maybe 2 sound good to great.  There have been many times where a lid that sounds great on one call will sound great on most calls, seems the same goes for short boxes.  And without a doubt, the longer I let a call sit, the more stable it becomes from tuning and the closer it get to being done.  Neil is spot on... and I have had this discussion with other box call builders, SB's are more forgiving that LB's when it comes to tuning.  When a LB is gone...IT'S GONE!