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Oliver North has been removed as President of the NRA, followed in short succession by 4 board members resignations. The issue is Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the NRA since 1991, using the NRA as his private slush fund.
LaPierre has had the NRA pay for luxury travel on private jets to foreign countries, then being chauffeured in luxury cars with drivers to ritzy, expensive resorts. He also used the NRA's money to buy himself a $6 million estate. He wanted to buy a $6 million executive retreat on a Carribian island that he and his cronies could vacation at, but that plan was exposed and thwarted. >:(
Any board member that doesn't back LaPierre on his ridiculous spending, is attacked by LaPierre, removed from committees, and ostracized. It's past time for LaPierre to be removed from his position. As a Life and Endowment member of the NRA, I am furious with LaPierre and his cronies squandering our money, and living lives of luxury at our expense. >:(
There is a march in Washington DC that's being planned to bring pressure on LaPierre to resign. When I find out more, I will keep you guys posted.
Here are a couple of links to the story.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/457962-fox-news-host-roasts-nras-lapierre-an-odious-little-grifter-who-needs-to-go

https://thehill.com/homenews/458101-three-more-nra-officials-step-down-amid-spending-controversy-report

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 Been a life member for close to 40 years. They have had upheavals, I remember the Knox episode. You are right, it's time for a change. This organization is worth more than ANY one person, from the newest member to the top brass. He has been effective, he had the ear of our most important lawmakers. Time for  him to move on...

Steady KBC, steadeeeee

 If Ollie is pointing fingers, nuff said. LOL. More than smoke

Perfect example of someone forgetting why they are in a position. He has help the top dog spot for close to 30 years and thinks of the NRA as "his".

There is a big diffenece in paying a man well and that man just being greedy.

Why does the NRA need huge retreats anyway?

It is time for another pro gun group to either step up or form.

I always wished Tom Selleck would have stepped up, his gun stance has always been straightforward and his speaking is top notch.

I quit the NRA 25 years ago when it became obvious they were squandering $ and supporting politicians who advocated policies detrimental to hunting.

Quote from: Sixes on August 21, 2019, 05:33:33 PM
Perfect example of someone forgetting why they are in a position. He has help the top dog spot for close to 30 years and thinks of the NRA as "his".

There is a big diffenece in paying a man well and that man just being greedy.

Why does the NRA need huge retreats anyway?

It is time for another pro gun group to either step up or form.

I always wished Tom Selleck would have stepped up, his gun stance has always been straightforward and his speaking is top notch.

Again, nuff said.

I got out of it as soon as they started calling me every week preaching they need more money!


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Quote from: Happy on August 21, 2019, 05:21:40 PM
Steady KBC, steadeeeee

;D 

I also got tired of the constant calls, emails etc.  Hopefully they can steady the ship, or another organization can step up and carry the torch.     

Quote from: guesswho on August 21, 2019, 07:27:30 PM

Quote from: Happy on August 21, 2019, 05:21:40 PM
Steady KBC, steadeeeee

;D 

I also got tired of the constant calls, emails etc.  Hopefully they can steady the ship, or another organization can step up and carry the torch.   

+1

They "need" more money all the time. But, they use it for ridiculous reasons. I don't mind supporting stuff for the cause but when they're blowing it on senseless "stuff", I'm done. I'll pay to go on some kind of supportive trip but I'm not giving them money to do as they please. I believe they've done plenty to help but they've not used the money appropriately. I've since decided to put that money elsewhere. Our KPP program (feeding underprivileged students in our area) has been the recipient. And honestly, that just means more to me than some vacation spot on a distant island.


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It's past time for Wayne LaPierre to go.

Things like this have a way of shaking out. The libs would like us all to jump ship. May i ask jump where?

I do not know if it is just in NY but we have an organization called SCOPE (Shooters Committee On Political Education) that I like though they had a bit of a shakedown in the group a few years ago as well. They work mainly at the state level.

Well let's hope the the nra gets their stuff together

Every organization has crooks. Very sad that its like that.

Really bad timing for all this to come out...right in the middle of another gun grab. The NRA has fumbled the ball on this one, and Wayne needs to go.

Wayne needs to go for sure. I quit the NRA a few years ago over their constant begging and policies. I had heard from reliable sources it was becoming a private slush fund. They have saved our guns but that does not give them license to abscond member money. Wayne has become just like those we appose in congress. It is dangerous to allow one person or a small contingent to hold the purse strings of a large fund. Temptation is a hard master. Running a non profit takes people with integrity first and someone with oversite that does not have any skin in the game. I actually run a non profit as chairman of the board and CFO. Every dime I spend goes through an accountant that has no interest in our organization except what he is paid for services. Still you can mask expenses and an independent audit should be done every 3-5 years.

Another organization I broke ties with is the NWTF. They were spending way too much on fund raising and hiring fund raisers left and right, that money did not go to turkeys. Sure they done a lot of good, but they spent a lot on pet projects that were not good use. Their money helped but the states were already doing the work. When I worked for DNR, they hosted a huge hunt that was exclusively for NWTF administrators, DNR officials, celebrities and politicians. I would guess those events cost thousands in travel cost and added nothing to turkey mngt.

Quote from: eggshell on August 22, 2019, 08:12:10 AM
Wayne needs to go for sure. I quit the NRA a few years ago over their constant begging and policies. I had heard from reliable sources it was becoming a private slush fund. They have saved our guns but that does not give them license to abscond member money. Wayne has become just like those we appose in congress. It is dangerous to allow one person or a small contingent to hold the purse strings of a large fund. Temptation is a hard master. Running a non profit takes people with integrity first and someone with oversite that does not have any skin in the game. I actually run a non profit as chairman of the board and CFO. Every dime I spend goes through an accountant that has no interest in our organization except what he is paid for services. Still you can mask expenses and an independent audit should be done every 3-5 years.

Another organization I broke ties with is the NWTF. They were spending way too much on fund raising and hiring fund raisers left and right, that money did not go to turkeys. Sure they done a lot of good, but they spent a lot on pet projects that were not good use. Their money helped but the states were already doing the work. When I worked for DNR, they hosted a huge hunt that was exclusively for NWTF administrators, DNR officials, celebrities and politicians. I would guess those events cost thousands in travel cost and added nothing to turkey mngt.

Agree on both accounts. It is imperative that these folks who run non-profit entities exhibit the highest level of integrity, keep the "true" purpose of their org. first and foremost, and ALWAYS show the utmost appreciation for your grass roots volunteers and donators.....they are the lifeblood.

Meanwhile, the anti-gun bills and executive orders from governors are flowing like a river.

Quote from: EZ on August 22, 2019, 08:53:39 AM

Quote from: eggshell on August 22, 2019, 08:12:10 AM
Wayne needs to go for sure. I quit the NRA a few years ago over their constant begging and policies. I had heard from reliable sources it was becoming a private slush fund. They have saved our guns but that does not give them license to abscond member money. Wayne has become just like those we appose in congress. It is dangerous to allow one person or a small contingent to hold the purse strings of a large fund. Temptation is a hard master. Running a non profit takes people with integrity first and someone with oversite that does not have any skin in the game. I actually run a non profit as chairman of the board and CFO. Every dime I spend goes through an accountant that has no interest in our organization except what he is paid for services. Still you can mask expenses and an independent audit should be done every 3-5 years.

Another organization I broke ties with is the NWTF. They were spending way too much on fund raising and hiring fund raisers left and right, that money did not go to turkeys. Sure they done a lot of good, but they spent a lot on pet projects that were not good use. Their money helped but the states were already doing the work. When I worked for DNR, they hosted a huge hunt that was exclusively for NWTF administrators, DNR officials, celebrities and politicians. I would guess those events cost thousands in travel cost and added nothing to turkey mngt.

Agree on both accounts. It is imperative that these folks who run non-profit entities exhibit the highest level of integrity, keep the "true" purpose of their org. first and foremost, and ALWAYS show the utmost appreciation for your grass roots volunteers and donators.....they are the lifeblood.

Meanwhile, the anti-gun bills and executive orders from governors are flowing like a river.

I wouldn`t at all be surprised if the upper echelons of the NRA are in bunker mentality mode, or well on their way at least. Anti-gun/gun control/anti-hunting sentiments have been around for quite a while, but not like right now that I recall during my 71 years on the planet. With all this, I`m a bit surprised somebody hasn`t put out an updated version of the " Guns of Autumn ". If you`re too young to have seen it ( 1975, if I remember correctly ), look it up.

The NRA is not pro 2nd amendment.  Its a 'for profit' business.  They use the slow degradation of the 2nd amendment to drive donations and memberships.  They are not fighting for us. 

I agree about the corruption, but the NRA is the most powerful pro gun lobby we have. Root out the crooks and keep the ship sailing. If it splinters and loses power, we will all suffer. This will be a huge boost to all the gun snatchers. I pray we staythe course of gun rights. Al Baker Patriot Life Endowment member.

Quote from: zelmo1 on August 22, 2019, 05:55:32 PM
I agree about the corruption, but the NRA is the most powerful pro gun lobby we have. Root out the crooks and keep the ship sailing. If it splinters and loses power, we will all suffer. This will be a huge boost to all the gun snatchers. I pray we staythe course of gun rights. Al Baker Patriot Life Endowment member.

                                                                          AMEN

As much as it pained me, I ended my longtime relationship with NRA. I'm incensed that LaPierrie would risk it all for his own gratification. The fact that he would risk gun ownership in all of America...I just can't fathom it!
I've gone over to Gun Owners of America...Eric Pratt is a no compromise bulldog for gun rights. He doesn't back down. My dues will go to good use there...

Quote from: sixbird on August 22, 2019, 10:22:58 PM
As much as it pained me, I ended my longtime relationship with NRA. I'm incensed that LaPierrie would risk it all for his own gratification. The fact that he would risk gun ownership in all of America...I just can't fathom it!
I've gone over to Gun Owners of America...Eric Pratt is a no compromise bulldog for gun rights. He doesn't back down. My dues will go to good use there...

  I have heard that is a good organization but im not ready to give up the ship as yet. I may join this one also.

Quote from: zelmo1 on August 22, 2019, 05:55:32 PM
I agree about the corruption, but the NRA is the most powerful pro gun lobby we have. Root out the crooks and keep the ship sailing. If it splinters and loses power, we will all suffer. This will be a huge boost to all the gun snatchers. I pray we staythe course of gun rights. Al Baker Patriot Life Endowment member.

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Things aren't well when you're firing your own lawyers...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/politics/nra-legal-team-turmoil/index.html

Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 21, 2019, 10:12:47 PM
I do not know if it is just in NY but we have an organization called SCOPE (Shooters Committee On Political Education) that I like though they had a bit of a shakedown in the group a few years ago as well. They work mainly at the state level.

From what I read of NY gun laws, SCOPE isn't doing much for the gun owners there.

Quote from: paboxcall on August 23, 2019, 06:58:12 PM
Things aren't well when you're firing your own lawyers...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/politics/nra-legal-team-turmoil/index.html

Not well at all.. LOL. It was best said....  NRA need's to steady the ship, there are some growing alternatives out there.

Sometimes you have to sift through the chaff to get to the truth. Steve Hilton mentioned in the OP's link to The Hill is a British citizen and formerly worked for David Cameron ( prime Minister ) as an advisor /strategist. One only has to look at David Cameron's views on gun ownership and wonder if this was a hit piece by Hilton. I'm not trying to defend LaPierres lavish spending, or the shake up in management at the NRA, but Wayne has been quite effective pushing for our Second Amendment rights.
The NRA is hands-down one of the best lobbying machines on Capitol Hill and when your king of that hill someone's always trying to take you down  :z-twocents:

And the hits keep coming.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/nra-board-member-and-former-president-marion-hammer-obtained-low-interest-loan-from-affiliate-she-leads/2019/09/06/dff033f0-cc26-11e9-8067-196d9f17af68_story.html?noredirect=on

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They certainly do

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/04/san-francisco-just-passed-resolution-calling-nra-domestic-terrorist-organization/%3foutputType=amp

Liljake, that's just California libtards doing their thing.

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As goes California so goes the nation .  :toothy9:

Quote from: Liljake on September 09, 2019, 01:22:58 PM
As goes California so goes the  .  :toothy9:

NY unfortunately.