Federal 3rd Degree

[squidd]

Shot a few out of the SX2 this morning with a Carlson .575 choke.

Good out to 20-yds and 30-yds could have been me; may explain why I've been missing so many Snipe lately.

[Tom Foolery]

Pretty much anything looks good at 20 and 30yds. I'm sure you know it but your high left, bigly. 



An example of 30 vs 40. A friend shot a 12 gauge 870 with 3" win hv 5's.  He was well over 200 at 30yds, 220 I think.  He backed up to 40 and never cracked 100.

[squidd]

High and left, but the paper I had the target taped to told rest of the story, really spread out and didn't even do a pellet count.

I have another box of 3rd degre, but will try Winchester Double X next to see how it patterns.

[DBell]

High and left, but the paper I had the target taped to told rest of the story, really spread out and didn't even do a pellet count.

I have another box of 3rd degre, but will try Winchester Double X next to see how it patterns.

I shoot a 20 ga 870 with a Rob Roberts final strut .570 and the double x were horrible out of it. Maybe you will have better luck but I didn't even get 100 in 10" at 20 Yards.. Try the federal grand slams that are new and improved from last year. It's 35-38 yard shell w/ the .570, and #5 lead to boot. Same price as double x.


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[Tom Foolery]

High and left, but the paper I had the target taped to told rest of the story, really spread out and didn't even do a pellet count.

I have another box of 3rd degre, but will try Winchester Double X next to see how it patterns.

I shoot a 20 ga 870 with a Rob Roberts final strut .570 and the double x were horrible out of it. Maybe you will have better luck but I didn't even get 100 in 10" at 20 Yards.. Try the federal grand slams that are new and improved from last year. It's 35-38 yard shell w/ the .570, and #5 lead to boot. Same price as double x.


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Winchesters are terrible out of my 20 also.  I only shot them at 42yds but I was averaging in the high 20's/low 30's.

The Federal fcw #6 lead would make a 35yd load but that's the max I'd trust them. 

I'm shooting a youth 870 with a 570 colonial arms choke.

[PALongspur]

I try to not skimp on ammo.  It's the only thing you have that connects with a living critter.  I don't turkey hunt to save money so I try to shoot the good stuff.


I'd save up for TSS or H13's.

[DBell]

High and left, but the paper I had the target taped to told rest of the story, really spread out and didn't even do a pellet count.

I have another box of 3rd degre, but will try Winchester Double X next to see how it patterns.

I shoot a 20 ga 870 with a Rob Roberts final strut .570 and the double x were horrible out of it. Maybe you will have better luck but I didn't even get 100 in 10" at 20 Yards.. Try the federal grand slams that are new and improved from last year. It's 35-38 yard shell w/ the .570, and #5 lead to boot. Same price as double x.


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Winchesters are terrible out of my 20 also.  I only shot them at 42yds but I was averaging in the high 20's/low 30's.

The Federal fcw #6 lead would make a 35yd load but that's the max I'd trust them. 

I'm shooting a youth 870 with a 570 colonial arms choke.

The #6 can only be found in the older federal loads correct? I've only shot the new ones in #5 lead, the pattern looks aright out to 38 so far. Need to take a few more shots to check consistency


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[Tom Foolery]

These are supposed to be good:  https://www.rogerssportinggoods.com/federal-lead-grand-slam-turkey-load-20-gauge-3.html

[spurman]

I saw some of the new 3rd degree and they replaced the #7 HW with TSS, anyone tried these yet? I tried some of the old 3rd's last year in my SA459 20 ga. and like most are saying they are 30 yard shells. Pattern really opens up at 40.

[Tom Foolery]

One thing I've found with a 20 gauge. I bought quite a few lead loads to test figuring I could get a 40yd load out of one.  By the time the dust settled I'd spent enough to buy 3 boxes of HS or HW's and I had one load that would make 35yds on most days, sometimes, lol.  I use them now to check POI before I shoot the good stuff. 

I decided I'm not wasting money on something that may or may not work. I decided to spend it on what is proven in the 20 gauge 


After rebates it costs me 2.99 a shot for the heavyweights, around $1 more than for lead loads. 


I killed 2 birds last year, one at 23yds and one at 14yds.  Lead would have done it but I'm a fan of the performance I get from the HW's and HS.   If a bird hangs at 40 I'm good, if he pops up at 4, I'm good.

[DBell]

One thing I've found with a 20 gauge. I bought quite a few lead loads to test figuring I could get a 40yd load out of one.  By the time the dust settled I'd spent enough to buy 3 boxes of HS or HW's and I had one load that would make 35yds on most days, sometimes, lol.  I use them now to check POI before I shoot the good stuff. 

I decided I'm not wasting money on something that may or may not work. I decided to spend it on what is proven in the 20 gauge 


After rebates it costs me 2.99 a shot for the heavyweights, around $1 more than for lead loads. 


I killed 2 birds last year, one at 23yds and one at 14yds.  Lead would have done it but I'm a fan of the performance I get from the HW's and HS.   If a bird hangs at 40 I'm good, if he pops up at 4, I'm good.

I saw Rogers has fed HW #6 for 14.99 a box of 5. Was thinking of trying them but Heard the #6 doesn't do near as good as the #7 (which I can't use)


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[Tom Foolery]

I've never shot the HW 6's but I wouldn't expect great numbers.  My gun is 115-125 with H13 6's from both a.570 tightwad and a 570 colonial.  I have 10 boxes of them in case the HW 7's run out.  H13 6's have been great killers for me.

[devin4484]

My son currently 8 uses them in out of his tristar raptor 20 with a sumtoy choke.  He has killed 3 with it and I have also shot one with it.  I choose this load because it is super forgiving close if he is off on aim a little and is still killing a bird at 40 no question. 

[squidd]

Tried the Winchester Double X at 30-yds - still thinking I need a different shell or choke for the 20???

[DBell]

Tried the Winchester Double X at 30-yds - still thinking I need a different shell or choke for the 20???

That would take a gobbler at 30 yards all day. However, I think at 30 yards you can get a better pattern with lead #5. Try the federal grand slam.
This is the best 30 yd pattern out of 5 shots. (Circle is 10 inch, and the second number is adding in the hits roughly 2 inches outside the circle.


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