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Be aware of Heritage Outfitters in NE

Started by duxrus, May 13, 2022, 10:04:20 PM

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VA Gobble Addict

Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 14, 2022, 05:11:39 AM
Quote from: VA Gobble Addict on May 14, 2022, 04:04:59 AM
Bummer about your experience.  With the increase in the popularity of turkey hunting it would be awesome to have a sticky or something with all the lousy outfitters for reference. Maybe there is one already and I just havent seen it

It was brought up not long ago, not sure if it was done or not but I would not be surprised if they chose not to, that is a lawsuit for slander/defamation waiting to happen.
I can understand that, although I dont think theres much of a difference between this thread and one devoted to outfitter experiences.  The thread doesnt have to be only bad ones
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ElkTurkMan

I hunted the same area that this outfitter hunts in back in 2010. It was a semi DIY type hunt.  We used an outfitter, but there was no guide.  They would drop us off at a farm explain what the birds were doing, then you were on your own.  I saw more turkeys in the three days hunting there than I saw in the previous decade hunting here is the SE. It was unreal the number of bird's we saw!   I hate to hear that the area has been over hunted but I am not surprised.  It seems like for a lot of years Nebraska was the new hot spot.     

Dtrkyman

Not sticking up for a BS outfitter in any way.  However they have to pay for those leases and they have gotten expensive!

Accurate info above, really good when it was new, hunt it for several years and it goes down hill, the outfitting business is tough enough without lying to clients!

I helped a friend in Nebraska for a few years, hunting was exceptional initially, got tough and he pulled the plug!

FLGobstopper

That's a shame and I really hate to hear about your crappy experience. NE G&P (nebraskaturkeyhunt.com) along with NWTF marketing the crap out this state for the past 5 years hasn't helped. Glad I had the opportunity to go many years ago before then when it was still pretty good.

Been hearing way too many similar stories to this about NE private and public both. It's just a hot bed of activity right now and you can easily follow the trail through online forums, social media, videos, tv, etc, to see how it's gotten to this point. It's a good lesson in just how quickly a bunch of people posting of their success, plus pressure from a bunch of others jumping on it can change things. Information travels quicker these days and it's there for everyone to see, stays in a library just a tap away and doesn't go away until someone for some odd reason deletes it, or the site goes away.

That's maybe good news in this case as far as this outfitter and will hopefully save someone from spending a bunch of hard earned money for something that's just not worth it anymore. Not saying there can't still be good hunts to be had there or in NE anymore, it's just been hit hard and more and more people are going to be experiencing less than quality hunting. Pretty similar to what's going on in KS, OK and a few others that were the hot states and got all the popularity in the past decade.

ybuck

Quote from: FLGobstopper on May 14, 2022, 10:07:40 AM
That's a shame and I really hate to hear about your crappy experience. NE G&P (nebraskaturkeyhunt.com) along with NWTF marketing the crap out this state for the past 5 years hasn't helped. Glad I had the opportunity to go many years ago before then when it was still pretty good.

Been hearing way too many similar stories to this about NE private and public both. It's just a hot bed of activity right now and you can easily follow the trail through online forums, social media, videos, tv, etc, to see how it's gotten to this point. It's a good lesson in just how quickly a bunch of people posting of their success, plus pressure from a bunch of others jumping on it can change things. Information travels quicker these days and it's there for everyone to see, stays in a library just a tap away and doesn't go away until someone for some odd reason deletes it, or the site goes away.

That's maybe good news in this case as far as this outfitter and will hopefully save someone from spending a bunch of hard earned money for something that's just not worth it anymore. Not saying there can't still be good hunts to be had there or in NE anymore, it's just been hit hard and more and more people are going to be experiencing less than quality hunting. Pretty similar to what's going on in KS, OK and a few others that were the hot states and got all the popularity in the past decade.

excellent point...

Sir-diealot

Quote from: VA Gobble Addict on May 14, 2022, 08:45:56 AM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 14, 2022, 05:11:39 AM
Quote from: VA Gobble Addict on May 14, 2022, 04:04:59 AM
Bummer about your experience.  With the increase in the popularity of turkey hunting it would be awesome to have a sticky or something with all the lousy outfitters for reference. Maybe there is one already and I just havent seen it

It was brought up not long ago, not sure if it was done or not but I would not be surprised if they chose not to, that is a lawsuit for slander/defamation waiting to happen.
I can understand that, although I dont think theres much of a difference between this thread and one devoted to outfitter experiences.  The thread doesnt have to be only bad ones
Actually there is a major difference legally, in the case of this thread it is a guy coming here on his own to share his experience,  not in a forum category that is asking for people to in the eyes of the law "Defame" a business thus encouraging anybody that may have just not gotten along with the outfitter and wants to slander him. Also you would want independent collaboration with the persons story or again it would just be a he said she said and could come against Oldgobbler. I know I am not explaining that quite right, but I am tired, sorry. I do hope I helped you to understand though.
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VA Gobble Addict

Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 14, 2022, 10:53:27 AM
Quote from: VA Gobble Addict on May 14, 2022, 08:45:56 AM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 14, 2022, 05:11:39 AM
Quote from: VA Gobble Addict on May 14, 2022, 04:04:59 AM
Bummer about your experience.  With the increase in the popularity of turkey hunting it would be awesome to have a sticky or something with all the lousy outfitters for reference. Maybe there is one already and I just havent seen it

It was brought up not long ago, not sure if it was done or not but I would not be surprised if they chose not to, that is a lawsuit for slander/defamation waiting to happen.
I can understand that, although I dont think theres much of a difference between this thread and one devoted to outfitter experiences.  The thread doesnt have to be only bad ones
Actually there is a major difference legally, in the case of this thread it is a guy coming here on his own to share his experience,  not in a forum category that is asking for people to in the eyes of the law "Defame" a business thus encouraging anybody that may have just not gotten along with the outfitter and wants to slander him. Also you would want independent collaboration with the persons story or again it would just be a he said she said and could come against Oldgobbler. I know I am not explaining that quite right, but I am tired, sorry. I do hope I helped you to understand though.
Fair enough
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Greg Massey

If i may ask, what did this bad experience with this guide service cost YOU ?

duxrus

1500$ per person plus hotel plus plane tickets plus license and tags....
Easily over 2000$ apiece

What really chaps my butt is the 100% opportunity they promise yet when it wasn't delivered they don't think twice. I guarantee their website will still say that after season which will be a blatant lie

Greg Massey

Quote from: duxrus on May 14, 2022, 12:13:45 PM
1500$ per person plus hotel plus plane tickets plus license and tags....
Easily over 2000$ apiece

What really chaps my butt is the 100% opportunity they promise yet when it wasn't delivered they don't think twice. I guarantee their website will still say that after season which will be a blatant lie
A very costly experience ... so they didn't even offer to discount the hunt, because of how bad it was ?

St. Augustine Strutter

It appears the website listed on the Facebook page is no longer working. I wonder if they recently took it down.

dzsmith

After being skunked a few times with outfits , I quit using them. It's the same old story over and over and over . Particularly in the Midwest. I generally get a bird , but it usually winds up being an absolute grind for several days to do it.....I had a guy message me 2 years ago  about an outfit I had used. I told him don't do it , he did it anyway. And it had been a very long time when I used the outfit.... And of course his entire group came back after 4 days with zero birds. He had bad weather , few birds to work with, and of course they were unworkable , and usually across the property line. Contrary to popular belief , my best experiences with outfits had actually been the cheapest ones ....the ones who offer basically nothing have always seemed to at a minimum put me on a bird so I could get in and get out. And those guys always go out of business, because people see the price and assume something is wrong so they have trouble rebooking. I'm done with outfits for the most part with a few exceptions ....Hek I went with one . 5 stars and 100% success. He gave me references many of whom were local to me. We went .... And killed nothing. Saw 1 long beard in 3 days. Texas.... When we arrived I asked how many birds had they killed so far. 2.5 weeks in. 36 birds on 1200 acres.... I was like huh..... 3 or 6 um no 36. Of you do go.... You better be there first because those guys love to take money from people the last 2 weeks of season knowing good and well they ain't got a gobbling bird on the place
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Jstocks

I've had similar experiences in Nebraska. Once with a guy I had great experience with one year, then terrible the next. Almost like the guy fell of the wagon, lost his ground, then still tried to hunt the same amount of hunters.

One guy was a complete liar, and he also had multi state hunts. This one put two of my compadres out trespassing and they got caught by the landowner and had zero idea they were not supposed to be there.

Had one guy in a Kansas the "guides" were kids and running around smoking dope all night with their girlfriends, shooting pheasants in turkey season, and didn't have any turkeys to hunt.

Yeah, I've seen some doozies.....especially in the Midwest

Tail Feathers

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience.  I actually looked at that outfitter on line and something just didn't seem quite right as my hunting friend pointed out.  I looked it over again and while I couldn't put a finger on what, we never called that guy.  Glad of it.  Thanks for the review.  It's not out of line at all if you tell the truth.
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spaightlabs

I've known Brady from Heritage for about 20 years or so i guess and hunted with them a couple of times, but that was about 7 or 8 years ago I guess and he had only been operating there for a year or 2 I think.

He had a few properties back then that any of us would have given at least one testicle for, maybe both.  One he called Joshua Tree was just an incredible Roost and only a few minutes from the hotel.  100 - 200 birds roosting in a couple of massive Cottonwoods in the bottom.  Multiple canyons and tons of cedar.  not true if that is still on the roster or if it's been played out.

He had just gotten another property about a 40 minute drive from the hotel one of the years we went out and it was absolutely lousy with turkeys.  I've never seen so many tracks and crap in one spot in my life.  A little tough to hunt because the only way in was to drive/walk under that roost area so you had to hunt it later in the day after they had headed out to the prairie, but man that was a fun property if you were a boot leather hunter.

We had some incredible morel hunts there as well.

I referred a few different guys from the board to hunt there and received positive feedback from all back then, but admittedly, some of them were more about harvest numbers than how the hunt unfolded.

It has seemed as though the last few years there are an awful lot more deer pictures than turkey pics...

I'm sorry your hunt wasn't what you deserved.