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Author Topic: Major problem with Longbeard shells!!!  (Read 774 times)

Offline smh

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Re: Major problem with Longbeard shells!!!
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2020, 06:49:36 PM »
See my original post.

I did try a .665 at 35 yards, and it was slightly better than the .660-–75 and 73 from the .660  and 90  with the .665. Even with the 90 hits, this is about 50% if what I am accustomed to and five yards closer than my usual 40 yard pattern testing.

Again, this compares with consistent 170s from 40 yards with a .660 for the last several years with the same load.

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Re: Major problem with Longbeard shells!!!
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2020, 09:34:37 PM »
Did you shoot at 35 last year or just at 40?  Maybe try one at 40 and see how it compares to your 35 yd patterns. That shell is crazy sometimes. I would still try a different shell in that choke tube and see if you get your usual numbers with it.   Good Luck

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Re: Major problem with Longbeard shells!!!
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2020, 10:28:38 PM »
See my reply #7. Immediately after the very poor performance at 20 and 25 yards, I shot a 3” #5 Longbeard through the same .660 choke at 40 yards and had 138 in 10”.

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Re: Major problem with Longbeard shells!!!
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2020, 03:09:12 PM »
Try cleaning the barrel and the choke super good. Clean the choke with Hoppes then give it a overnight soak in Hoppes and clean it again. I had a similar problem year before last with Longbeards. Gun went from shooting 200-205 in 10 to 120s. I had been trying different shells in it playing around and put a Longbeard 6 in it and pattern was way off. Cleaned the gun and choke as mentioned above and cleaned all the Hoppes residue out of the barrel with denatured alcohol and it went back to normal. Only difference was this was with the same box of shells. Choke was a Sumtoy 665.

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Re: Major problem with Longbeard shells!!!
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2020, 05:00:38 PM »
I will definitely try this, but note that I DID use two different choke tubes, and also that the pattern went as follows with seven consecutive shots in the same shooting session:

“Old shell lot” for shots 1-4 from 40 yards) and “new shell lot” for shots 5-7 (from 35 yards)
1. 178
2. 174
3. 166
4. 173
5. 75
6. 73
7. 90

As you can see, the pattern was more than cut in half between shots 4 and 5 and with the distance of shot 5 being five yards closer.

I did receive a message from Winchester last week and am awaiting their return call.

I also received purchased three new boxes I plan to try next week.

I WILL provide updates to the forum when I have more information.

Thanks!

Offline tnanh

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Re: Major problem with Longbeard shells!!!
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2020, 12:31:32 PM »
Hopefully its something simple and not the shell. I will switch back to old Winchesters if you find they have become inconsistent from lot to lot. PM sent.

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Re: Major problem with Longbeard shells!!!
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2020, 02:45:33 PM »
Update:

As I indicated in an earlier post, I recently purchased three new boxes of the 3-1/2” 2 OZ #5 Long Beards and had a chance to shoot them last week. Their performance was better than the suspected “bad lot” but considerably below my historical numbers as follows:

From 40 yards (not 35), the shells I purchased two weeks ago put 138 and 102 in a 10” circle (compared to an average of 79 for three shots from 35 yards for the “bad lot”). I suspect, as others have suggested, I can improve these numbers with choke selection, but I am disappointed they are so far below my usual 170s in 10” for the last several years.

ALSO, Winchester has replied to my online report submitted via their website, and will be examining the suspected “poor lot.” They are sending UPS to pick them up, hopefully tomorrow. I hope to have a report from Winchester/Olin soon.

I will update this thread when additional information is available.

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Re: Major problem with Longbeard shells!!!
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2020, 04:59:35 PM »
Sounds like their working with you which is a positive. Keep us posted.