Yep...you locked up for good on that one!!!! Federal hit the nail on the head with the 20....too bad the 12 ain't worth a crap!!!
Oh contraire mon frère! Every 12 gauge I shoot the 3" and 3.5" heavyweight 7s out of has a Carlson's longbeard choke screwed in the business end and the patterns are RIDICULOUS. Once I run out of my 20 gauge hw loads (and then the 35 odd rounds of tss 9s) I might go back to the 12, but that's the only reason I don't carry them I to the woods. The 3.5" loads are putting up around 200 in the 10 and the 3" are printing 150+. Only through the Carlson's longbeard though. My 835 will never have another choke than the Truglo smackdown that's in it now and it'll shoot the same numbers as my 1300 and SBE II all day long.