Never shot Apex out of my 835. Used the .410 loads from APEX, excellent results.
I have been shooting Nitro's for 20 years. There loads are unmatched by any competitor, yes even APEX.
Shot this weekend with some 8x9s. Only loading the 75 yard pattern (That is all that is needed!)
40 yards is unbelievable, 25 and under I am aiming on the black. I have shot 7.5x9 in the Nitro TSS loads as well.