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Thanks for the replies. I did not realize, until recently that hand loaders have been shooting these shells for a while. From what I and reading guys are liking the Sumtoy and the truglo SSX. Still new at this so asking a lot of questions and trying to do some research. Couple of questions:What is the pattern like at 15 yds? Do these shells have good knock down/ penetration; for #9?What sight set up do you hace on your SA-08?