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Offline mtns2hunt

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Short Range Load
« on: January 24, 2018, 05:51:37 PM »
Really like LB 4,5,and 6. However, I consider these to be for longer range. What does every one use for shorter ranges of 10 - 25 yards? I have been practicing with a modified choke and federal lead 6's with fairly decent patterns but not as even a pattern as I would like. I'm looking for a wider pattern at the closer ranges. Appreaciate your feedback!
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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2018, 08:00:46 AM »
Inside 35 yds, look no further than a quality trap load, not cheap box store target fodder. Winch, Remmy, or Fed. 3-1&1/8-7.5s (1200 fps) will flat smoke a turkey with dense, even patterns.

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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2018, 08:15:37 AM »
Load never changes for me... Now I don't take 40 yard shots, my game is 20 and under and more in the 15 yard range. My gun and load will kill at 40 without a problem, only thing that I do is sight my scope in Dead-On at 15 yards, I patterned out to the 40 mark and all good from there. As long as you have accuracy up close that bird is just plain dead once you squeeze the trigger.

I call it "The Circle of Death"

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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2018, 09:28:20 PM »
Inside 35 yds, look no further than a quality trap load, not cheap box store target fodder. Winch, Remmy, or Fed. 3-1&1/8-7.5s (1200 fps) will flat smoke a turkey with dense, even patterns.

Trap load? Never thought of that and never shot much trap. 7.5 now that is interesting. Is this comparable with the 7.5 Hevi  that is posted about on this post?
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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2018, 08:57:39 AM »
Inside 35 yds, look no further than a quality trap load, not cheap box store target fodder. Winch, Remmy, or Fed. 3-1&1/8-7.5s (1200 fps) will flat smoke a turkey with dense, even patterns.

Trap load? Never thought of that and never shot much trap. 7.5 now that is interesting. Is this comparable with the 7.5 Hevi  that is posted about on this post?

No, not directly comparable, but you asked about a short range load. I would not consider HS 7s to be "short range". A 1.125 oz load of hard lead 7.5s (trap load) contains 393 pellets and at 1200 fps MV yields 1.25" of gel penetration to 35 yds. A 2 oz load of HS 7s contains 549 pellets (in a perfect world) and maintains that same level of penetration to beyond 40 yds (not allowed to say how far by site admin).

Used to have a pic posted on here before Photobucket got greedy of a trap load through my 1187 / IC .665. It put 164 evenly spaced pellets in the 10" circle at 30 yds and has the horsepower to kill to 35. And does so for very low cost with very little recoil.

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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2018, 10:21:59 AM »
A few years back i was shooting some different turkey loads to see which one pattern best with a 665 choke, after I was though I decided to try a couple others. The Win AA trap 7.5 shot very well, at 30yds it went 140's in the 10" with good even pattern, but at forty you could say it fell apart. At 30yds I would not hesitate one second at blasting a big ole tom with that load!

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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2018, 10:50:56 AM »
Thanks guys, Weather here stinks at the moment. So I am going over to Sportsmans to pick up Trap 7.5 and HS if they have any. Snow, rain and sleet supposeed to let up this afternoon so I'll try to test these loads.
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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2018, 11:11:22 AM »
Odds and ends of old turkey loads that didn't produce the best at 40 yards is what a guy could try too. Many people probably have a few of them around .
I did shoot some Federal prairie storm out of a fixed full that definitely opened up, 20 gauge though.

Bandedspur trap loads were real though, I remember seeing that pattern on here. Good stuff.

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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2018, 07:35:49 AM »
Thanks guys, Weather here stinks at the moment. So I am going over to Sportsmans to pick up Trap 7.5 and HS if they have any. Snow, rain and sleet supposeed to let up this afternoon so I'll try to test these loads.

BTW, they will not be labeled "Trap Loads", rather "Heavy Target Loads". Look for 3 dr, 1&1/8 oz, 7&1/2. Those will be 1200 fps. Winch also makes a "Super Sporting Clays Load" that clocks 1300 and patterns very well also with a little more umph.

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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2018, 01:32:31 PM »
Suggest Win Rooster 2 3/4" #6.

Started this thread almost a year ago.  You may want to take a look;

http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,71993.msg706204.html#msg706204

In case you have never heard of them;
http://www.winchester.com/library/news/Pages/new-rooster-xr-ammo.aspx

The Indian Creek (.665) and Carlson Long Beard (.660) (creamator design) worked best.  But, if you are interested in a 10-25 yard choke, the Creamator Long Range (.025) or Mid Range (.015) might be the ticket (?)

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/400238/carlsons-cremator-extended-ported-waterfowl-choke-tube-remington-rem-choke-combo-12-gauge-pack-of-2
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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2018, 03:06:53 PM »
Suggest Win Rooster 2 3/4" #6.

Started this thread almost a year ago.  You may want to take a look;

http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,71993.msg706204.html#msg706204

In case you have never heard of them;
http://www.winchester.com/library/news/Pages/new-rooster-xr-ammo.aspx

The Indian Creek (.665) and Carlson Long Beard (.660) (creamator design) worked best.  But, if you are interested in a 10-25 yard choke, the Creamator Long Range (.025) or Mid Range (.015) might be the ticket (?)

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/400238/carlsons-cremator-extended-ported-waterfowl-choke-tube-remington-rem-choke-combo-12-gauge-pack-of-2

Some good info on the old post.  I have never heard of Rooster xr. I will look around and see if I can pick some up. I am currently using factory chokes and a couple of kicks chokes and working with some trap loads.. Might pick up an Indian Creek. Not worried about recoil as I never feel it. Tss in a 2 3/4 shell sounded interesting but I don't plan on reloading shotgun shells. Basically looking for a shell that will give good patterns closer up. I have the field hunting covered. I really appreaciate all the answers.
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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2019, 01:39:41 PM »
The Winchester super sporting clays load mentioned above is a good one. 3 1/4 dram, 1 1/8oz,. 7.5 shot. I patterned these in my 2 3/4" fixed modified choke 11-48 last week. Great patterns to 35 yards. The pattern fell apart at 40 though.

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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2019, 01:21:39 PM »
a good target load of 1-1/8 oz of 7-1/2 or 6's will take a turkey out to 30 yds all day long
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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2019, 03:57:21 PM »
a good target load of 1-1/8 oz of 7-1/2 or 6's will take a turkey out to 30 yds all day long

Thanks for all the feedback. I'll try some of the loads mentioned in my 12g. I have actually switched to a 20g with TSS for this season. A very potent combo as I am already 2 for 2 with one tag left.
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Re: Short Range Load
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2019, 04:09:10 PM »
I've be surprised how well light 2 3/4" target loads patter out to 30 yards. #7.5s could easily kill a bird at that distance.