What am I doing wrong? Bad patterns

[Spurs Up]

That chewed up wad is not right, I have recovered several of mine and they sure do not look like that.

Where you located at ??

South Louisiana, New Orleans area


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Then you're no Sasquatch.  You're a straight up Skunk Ape.

[Rapscallion Vermilion]

This is how it's pushing sideways. By shell being to long the lever touches the edge of the shell at first and when applying pressure it pushes to the side slightly




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Okay, I can see what you mean.  Mine is a different design.  Trimming the hull might help.

[sasquatch1]

This is how it's pushing sideways. By shell being to long the lever touches the edge of the shell at first and when applying pressure it pushes to the side slightly




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Okay, I can see what you mean.  Mine is a different design.  Trimming the hull might help.

Yea I've done some on my cousins drill press with number 8s and was getting in the 180s in the 10 and was hoping for better with the 9s. So in that time I just got the crimper so o wouldn't have to go over there to use the press. Ordered my own today so will go that route when it comes in and report back!


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[sasquatch1]

That chewed up wad is not right, I have recovered several of mine and they sure do not look like that.

Where you located at ??

South Louisiana, New Orleans area


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Then you're no Sasquatch.  You're a straight up Skunk Ape.

Hahaha


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[sasquatch1]

Getting better! Crimped one with the drill press and shot again. Got 290 in the 10 and another 212 in the 10-20 inch.

502 total in the 20.

Wad was still tore up, idk maybe it's the tight choke. Nice even pattern though, plus it was in the 40s when I shot today so I'm sure that ain't giving me the best results




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[Fullfan]

Very nice pattern, but the wad would have me wondering what is eating it up.

[Spurs Up]

Getting better! Crimped one with the drill press and shot again. Got 290 in the 10 and another 212 in the 10-20 inch.

502 total in the 20.

Wad was still tore up, idk maybe it's the tight choke. Nice even pattern though, plus it was in the 40s when I shot today so I'm sure that ain't giving me the best results




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With that, you're getting >85% retention in the 20" circle. Unless you're obsessed with achieving "300 in the 10", call it a day and shoot them in the face.

[sasquatch1]

Getting better! Crimped one with the drill press and shot again. Got 290 in the 10 and another 212 in the 10-20 inch.

502 total in the 20.

Wad was still tore up, idk maybe it's the tight choke. Nice even pattern though, plus it was in the 40s when I shot today so I'm sure that ain't giving me the best results




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With that, you're getting >85% retention in the 20" circle. Unless you're obsessed with achieving "300 in the 10", call it a day and shoot them in the face.

Nah that's the plan now, few more shots to check consistency but that's all. And see if it chews up the wad in the apex loads just to see


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[petemoss83]

I recall very clearly using an Indian creek choke with my Mossberg 835 a few years back and it chewed up wads identical to the pic you posted. I thought it may be normal as different chokes have different effects on wads.  I never ran into any problems (other than that) and know i must've put 100 shots through that choke.

[davisd9]

Try the trulock


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[DrDirtNap]

You are going through the exact same experience I went through with my youth model 870.  My gun and apparently your gun as well don't quite behave like most others with TSS.  Every gun seems to be a little different.  I went through 4 or 5 different chokes including a Sumtoy 562, RSF and several different Trulocks before I settled on the IC 555....sound familiar?   My wads are tore up as well although they don't look quite as bad as yours do.   The wad gets torn up from the wad strippers in the IC choke.   Looks like you have a good pattern now.   I would stick with it and don't look back.


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[bowhunter2k9]

Ok so, looking at your wads... are you using Mylar? It sure looks like there's no Mylar in there, looks like pellets left the wad on that one petal, which can destroy your barrel finish. If you are using Mylar, it could be too tight of a choke.

All guns are different. My youth 870 hated the csd loads and LOVED the VP92 wad.

[sasquatch1]

Ok so, looking at your wads... are you using Mylar? It sure looks like there's no Mylar in there, looks like pellets left the wad on that one petal, which can destroy your barrel finish. If you are using Mylar, it could be too tight of a choke.

All guns are different. My youth 870 hated the csd loads and LOVED the VP92 wad.

Yes I'm using Mylar


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[Doug Lewis]

So after going to the drill press and getting that better pattern, are you still cutting slits in the wad?

[sasquatch1]

So after going to the drill press and getting that better pattern, are you still cutting slits in the wad?

Yes I cut the slits almost all the way down. Haven't had a change to load and shoot some more yet. Talked with Hal and he seems to think I may just need to drop the powder charge 1-2 grains maybe. Said he's only seen wads look like that when pressure is high usually.

I had another load I'm gonna try out too and make another 1-2 with lower powder charge and see what I get.

Open to other suggestions too. May get to shoot a few next week again.


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