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Pre-season Calling Prohibition

Started by Spurs Up, July 02, 2017, 08:50:10 PM

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Gooserbat

Oklahoma doesn't but I wish we did.
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Greg Massey

All i can say to this post, IF your a smart turkey hunter you want call to birds before your season opens... I wish Tennessee had it also..no calling before season... You need to scout, watch , listen and use good optics ..As a turkey hunter you need to use common sense sometimes or most of the time....

kyturkeyhunter4

The law was past for hunters not to educate the turkeys. I'm glad that one was past especially on the hunters who have to hunt on public land.

Happy

Never heard of a state having that law. It's not a bad idea but it would be pretty tough to enforce

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vt35mag

Not a fan of more regulation, but I see the benefit to the law. I refuse to do any turkey hunting here in the Champlain Valley, because too many birds are already call smart on opening day. Lots of large fields and agriculture, which allows many birds to be seen from the road and called to. I can't tell you how many times I have seen people call to them from the side of the road, or talk about calling them to the truck before season. Then the same jack wagons calling them in before season, can't figure out why they cant call them in during the season.

Chris O

In my early years there were a few locals that did this for awhile but gave it up. I have messed with a couple birds after season closes before,but only a couple times in my life time. I never do it before season I just listen then.We don't have any laws for it and I don't think too many people do it here in Iowa.

tha bugman

Some of the public land that I hunt has this prohibition.

Dr Juice

I wish that was the regulation in NY.

Haymarket

Quote from: Happy on July 04, 2017, 01:12:06 PM
Never heard of a state having that law. It's not a bad idea but it would be pretty tough to enforce

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Yeah, tough to enforce, but the main benefit would be to cut down on it by letting people know it is a bad thing to do...lot's of people don't realize the problem apparently, especially new hunters. If it is illegal, it would at least make people think that maybe they shouldn't be doing it.

chcltlabz

I've seen it in some places I've hunted, and seen it enforced also.  Places I've seen it enforced well had a prohibition of possessing turkey calls in the woods before turkey season.  Much easier to enforce that one.
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jb1069

I hope Ray Eye is reading this and can give his input! lol  I have to say I tend to agree with him. It isn't the calling, it is the people pressure.  If you are seriously dumb enough to call a bird all the way in until it see's you I can see the negative effect on preseason calling. But just random calling to locate a bird I don't agree messes up that bird for the rest of the season. I guess it is all in the approach.

tha bugman

I have Ben Lee's instructional CD and he says more than once " Now what you need to do is go out there before season and call them up." 

Happy

Quote from: jb1069 on July 06, 2017, 02:04:20 PM
I hope Ray Eye is reading this and can give his input! lol  I have to say I tend to agree with him. It isn't the calling, it is the people pressure.  If you are seriously dumb enough to call a bird all the way in until it see's you I can see the negative effect on preseason calling. But just random calling to locate a bird I don't agree messes up that bird for the rest of the season. I guess it is all in the approach.
I agree to an extent. However the odds go up of having birds see you and spook. Even birds you never knew you were there. Turkey vocalizations in and of themselves do not have a negative effect in my opinion. I try to stay completely out of my hunting areas at least a month before season. Not that it matters much as everyone and their brother is running crazy and I seldom hunt till the first week is almost over. People would be amazed at the amount of birds they bugger while walking around calling. Both in season and out.

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Quote from: Happy on July 06, 2017, 04:54:58 PM
Quote from: jb1069 on July 06, 2017, 02:04:20 PM
I hope Ray Eye is reading this and can give his input! lol  I have to say I tend to agree with him. It isn't the calling, it is the people pressure.  If you are seriously dumb enough to call a bird all the way in until it see's you I can see the negative effect on preseason calling. But just random calling to locate a bird I don't agree messes up that bird for the rest of the season. I guess it is all in the approach.
I agree to an extent. However the odds go up of having birds see you and spook. Even birds you never knew you were there. Turkey vocalizations in and of themselves do not have a negative effect in my opinion. I try to stay completely out of my hunting areas at least a month before season. Not that it matters much as everyone and their brother is running crazy and I seldom hunt till the first week is almost over. People would be amazed at the amount of birds they bugger while walking around calling. Both in season and out.

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Stop making sense Happy, or you will have to change your handle to "Smart".  I will sneak in on my private spots, but I stay on the edges and well hidden and just listen.  I can hear the whole property on two of them from the edge, so it is just listening.  I will track in the afternoons on some public places too, but I am in major, quiet stealth mode.
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Happy

Quote from: g8rvet on July 06, 2017, 05:24:50 PM
Quote from: Happy on July 06, 2017, 04:54:58 PM
Quote from: jb1069 on July 06, 2017, 02:04:20 PM
I hope Ray Eye is reading this and can give his input! lol  I have to say I tend to agree with him. It isn't the calling, it is the people pressure.  If you are seriously dumb enough to call a bird all the way in until it see's you I can see the negative effect on preseason calling. But just random calling to locate a bird I don't agree messes up that bird for the rest of the season. I guess it is all in the approach.
I agree to an extent. However the odds go up of having birds see you and spook. Even birds you never knew you were there. Turkey vocalizations in and of themselves do not have a negative effect in my opinion. I try to stay completely out of my hunting areas at least a month before season. Not that it matters much as everyone and their brother is running crazy and I seldom hunt till the first week is almost over. People would be amazed at the amount of birds they bugger while walking around calling. Both in season and out.

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Stop making sense Happy, or you will have to change your handle to "Smart".  I will sneak in on my private spots, but I stay on the edges and well hidden and just listen.  I can hear the whole property on two of them from the edge, so it is just listening.  I will track in the afternoons on some public places too, but I am in major, quiet stealth mode.
If anyone calls me smart then it proves they font know me very well. I just kinda learn from repeated hard knocks

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