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Longbeard 1.7/8 vs. 1.3/4 oz

Started by longbeards, April 02, 2017, 08:12:51 AM

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Shot the new LB 1.7/8 load in 6shot
My M1 yesterday...

Shot only 3 shots but they did not pattern as well as the 1.3/4 oz do. Will shot more today and then post if anyone is interested.
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Player

That's strange it seems like they would do better...

owlhoot

Stick with the 1 3/4 oz. Plus you get added velocity .

Disney

Quote from: owlhoot on April 04, 2017, 07:42:52 PM
Stick with the 1 3/4 oz. Plus you get added velocity .
I just went through the same thing. The more pellets the slower the velocity. I opted out for higher velocity and less pellets. I may be wrong but I think the higher velocity may give you a few more yards in range. But that's only my idea, I haven't tested that. The Remington Nitros offer the same thing and the 1 7/8 oz are twice the price.
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dutch@fx4

I have found that a little slower load gave a littel more even pattern
High speed loads seem to deform the pellets more.

BandedSpur

Quote from: dutch@fx4 on June 03, 2017, 07:18:49 PM
I have found that a little slower load gave a littel more even pattern
High speed loads seem to deform the pellets more.

Generally speaking, that is true. Not so much with LBs whose resin does a great job of keeping the pellets perfectly round.

Ihuntoldschool

Yea resin or no resin the sound barrier still exists.

BandedSpur

Quote from: Ihuntoldschool on June 04, 2017, 12:23:00 PM
Yea resin or no resin the sound barrier still exists.

Indeed it does. So are you arguing that the heavier load should pattern better than the lighter, faster load because the heavier load remains subsonic?

Seminoleturkey

My Weatherby shoot much better with the 1 7/8 load than it does with the 1 3/4 load. #6's .

Bowguy

Maybe it's overchoked.
In my Ithaca w a .665 Indian Creek the 1-3/4 actually shot slightly better. With the factory briley .675 it was the 1-7/8 did better.
More shot is better overall. I'd bet to that we'd agree. Less fast pellets are marketing hogwash. If you don't wanna change anything though it sounds like a no brainer. Shoot what shoots better

dzsmith

Quote from: Disney on June 02, 2017, 10:04:27 PM
Quote from: owlhoot on April 04, 2017, 07:42:52 PM
Stick with the 1 3/4 oz. Plus you get added velocity .
I just went through the same thing. The more pellets the slower the velocity. I opted out for higher velocity and less pellets. I may be wrong but I think the higher velocity may give you a few more yards in range. But that's only my idea, I haven't tested that. The Remington Nitros offer the same thing and the 1 7/8 oz are twice the price.
they going the same speed at 40 cuh.
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Quote from: dzsmith on March 07, 2019, 12:29:22 PM
Quote from: Disney on June 02, 2017, 10:04:27 PM
Quote from: owlhoot on April 04, 2017, 07:42:52 PM
Stick with the 1 3/4 oz. Plus you get added velocity .
I just went through the same thing. The more pellets the slower the velocity. I opted out for higher velocity and less pellets. I may be wrong but I think the higher velocity may give you a few more yards in range. But that's only my idea, I haven't tested that. The Remington Nitros offer the same thing and the 1 7/8 oz are twice the price.
they going the same speed at 40 cuh.


Allaboutshooting talked about that in several threads.  The faster they start the faster they lose velocity


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Ahab

 My Benelli / IC .665 wouldn't shoot the 1 7/8 load either I'm thinking maybe a looser choke would help that. the 1 3/4 shoots great almost too tight for hunting in the woods.

Ihuntoldschool

 "Indeed it does. So are you arguing that the heavier load should pattern better than the lighter, faster load because the heavier load remains subsonic?"

It should. But I have to agree with you in Longbeards it can go either way for whatever reason.  It just varies from gun to gun with some shooting the Magnum load better and others preferring the lighter, faster load.   For availability in these times I settled on the faster load in my gun.  Both the slower and faster loads shoot incredibly well and are the best lead loads you can buy.