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Author Topic: POA/POI  (Read 1751 times)

Offline WW

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POA/POI
« on: June 02, 2021, 11:48:20 AM »
I've had 2 guns recently that shot to the left of the point of aim. Is there a gun that has a good point of aim and point of impact, that you've found? I only use a beaded gun so no optics for me.

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Re: POA/POI
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2021, 11:55:48 AM »
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Re: POA/POI
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2021, 01:46:25 PM »
Sad thing it is a lot of the cheaper guns that shoot POA/POI    Now alot of the guns now days shoot high.    You can also fix POA/POI  on most the guns.
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Re: POA/POI
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2021, 02:40:10 PM »
Sad thing it is a lot of the cheaper guns that shoot POA/POI    Now alot of the guns now days shoot high.    You can also fix POA/POI  on most the guns.


What's your recomendation for a new gun with poa/poi that is true? I want a straight shooter.

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Re: POA/POI
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2021, 07:30:37 PM »
It’s more than just the gun. I’ve found some guns that are on with one load are way off with another. There’s also variation from shot to shot even when using the same load. That’s especially true with tight chokes that produce a hot core. Several hundred less than aerodynamic pellets coming out of a smooth bore are inherently erratic. Others can argue this, but need to shoot more.

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Re: POA/POI
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2021, 08:34:28 PM »
My recently purchased Mossberg International SA-28 shot POA/POI with everything I shot thru it while pattern testing. 3/4 oz, 7/8 oz and 1 oz lead all shot to the same POI as the 1-1/2 oz TSS at 20-40 yards.
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Re: POA/POI
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2021, 08:55:27 PM »
I may not understand what the “same POI” means. Identical center of pattern, same number, distribution, and spacing/uniformity of hits? 

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Re: POA/POI
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2021, 09:22:11 PM »
I may not understand what the “same POI” means. Identical center of pattern, same number, distribution, and spacing/uniformity of hits?

Point of Impact. The perfect gun is one that POA is the same as POI, simply put where you aim your bead is where you pattern center is. That’s my understanding. My Original Super Black Eagle has the closest POA/POI that I have.....
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Re: POA/POI
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2021, 07:18:42 AM »
Mossbergs are known to be straight shooters.  They may shoot a tad high but not excessively high.  Usually dead on left to right. 

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Re: POA/POI
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2021, 10:02:58 PM »
I've had 2 guns recently that shot to the left of the point of aim. Is there a gun that has a good point of aim and point of impact, that you've found? I only use a beaded gun so no optics for me.

Then slowly and steadily bend your magazine tube to the left.  The issue isn't the barrel; it's most likely a misaligned magazine tube being exacerbated when you screw the magazine cap down tightly onto the barrel.